Je serai très bientôt à Agadir et compte aller voir la Vallée du Paradis et pousser peut-être jusqu'à Immouzer, je vouais savoir si les cascades ne sont pas asséchées en ce moment ? Merci
Cascades d'Immouzer
by Pussy13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je serai très bientôt à Agadir et compte aller voir la Vallée du Paradis et pousser peut-être jusqu'à Immouzer, je vouais savoir si les cascades ne sont pas asséchées en ce moment ? Merci
Je serai très bientôt à Agadir et compte aller voir la Vallée du Paradis et pousser peut-être jusqu'à Immouzer, je vouais savoir si les cascades ne sont pas asséchées en ce moment ? Merci
Sans doutes un filet d'eau vu le volume des précipitations cette année dans la région... 😕
C'est une très belle région de toutes façons, à voir même si les cascades ne sont pas diluviennes!
Oui je m'en doute ça à l'air beau ! comme nous sommes avec 2 enfants encore jeunes 7 et 5 ans on va commencer par la Vallée du Paradis s'ils ne sont pas trop crevés on verra, car en ce moment il doit faire chaud ! surtout dans la Vallé il fait déjà chaud chez nous, je suis dans le Sud de la France, je précise car en haut il ne fait pas super !
C'est facilement repérable " l'Oued" ?
Tu vas le longer une bonne partie du parcours... Ensuite, tu verras sur ta droite un parking et un panneau. Emprunter le chemin qui part de ce parking, puis en bas tu traverses l'oued et continues toujours sur le même sentier...

Tu vas le longer une bonne partie du parcours... Ensuite, tu verras sur ta droite un parking et un panneau. Emprunter le chemin qui part de ce parking, puis en bas tu traverses l'oued et continues toujours sur le même sentier...

un panneau à l'image du Maroc , à part sa ya de l'eau et des poubelles laissé par des hayaouanes comme on dit ici ..
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
Bonjour,
Même s'il n'y aura peut-être pas beaucoup d'eau sur la cascade elle même, l'oued et le bassin de la cascade sont toujours remplis..
De plus le parcours dans cette montagne présente de beaux paysages et la fraîcheur y est toujours appréciée s'il fait chaud.
Un retour par Tamri permet de longer la côte jusqu'à Agadir.
😄 quelqu'un qui ce comporte mal , qui respecte pas la nature , qui mange mal , qui jette ses poubelles partout , qui traverse l'autoroute , qui klaxonne comme un hmar à la douane alors qu'il est a 200 m du douanier par que ça avance pas .... hayaouane quand on traduit ça veut dire Animal .
La vallée du Paradis imouzer son des trés beau endroit , mais toujours de la merde partout 😠
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
Bonjour,
A priori, il n'y a pas lieu d'adopter des chaussures spéciales..
Des "baskets" font parfaitement l'affaire.
Comme le dit Z..A, on trouve quelquefois des reliefs laissés par des locaux ( ou touristes aussi.. ) mais rien de catastrophique.
Il y a pire ailleurs...
😄
La vallée du Paradis imouzer son des trés beau endroit , mais toujours de la merde partout 😠
Bonjour très beaux endroits en effet ! j'y étais en avril et mai , peu d'eau dans la cascade ! mais pas vu de la "merde " partout !😠 francia
Bonjour très beaux endroits en effet ! j'y étais en avril et mai , peu d'eau dans la cascade ! mais pas vu de la "merde " partout !😠 francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
je connais un très bon opticien sur Agadir , les Orchidées que vous avez cru voir , en faite ce sont des plastics 😉 toute façon ou qu'on aille il y en a partout , plus les poubelles que les gens balances et le reste que personne ne vois .
vous etes venu en Avril Mai , Juillet aout avev les zmigrés et les vacanciers sa change tous , je suis allé à la fetes du miel à immouzer l'an dernier il y avait des poubelles partout sans compter la vrai mer.de , he oui ya pas de toilettes public les gens vont partout ou ils peuvent comme à Paradise Valley ...
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
bonjour
j'ai une bonne paire de lunette et je vois en effet les Orchidées plastique qui fleurissent sur certains arbres , mais il y a du progrès depuis quelques années , donc soyons positif !
les Zzzzmigrés qui arrivent en juillet août ( j'en ai quelques uns dans ma famille ) je t'assure qu'ils ne jettent pas tout par les fenêtres , donc ne généralisons pas non plus !
les 4x4 comme le tien pollue aussi l'air et les oreilles et je peste après certains qui traversent des villages sans se soucier du dérangement qu'ils occasionnent !
mais pour en revenir au sujet , le paysage au Maroc est tellement beau que je ne m'en lasse pas !
cordialement
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
" .. et le reste que personne ne vois ..."
Ben si.. il y a au moins un qui les voit ..
S'il est vrai que la Vallée du Paradis est plutôt épargnée, il faut reconnaître que le jeté de poubelles dans le jardin du voisin absent pour quelques mois, les déchets laissée sur place après le pique nique familial du dimanche alors qu'il serait si simple de mettre sa poubelle dans sa voiture, le jeté de poubelles dans l'oued, sont des sports nationaux.
Quelques améliorations dans les grandes villes au niveau des déchets domestiques qui sont parfois relevés tous les jours dans des conteneurs mis à disposition, ceux-ci cependant restant 24 heures ouverts et exposés en plein soleil. Zreka n'a pas vraiment tort.
L'adresse de L'opticien ?
pour moi qui passe 80% de mon temps en mer à faire de la chasse sous Marine , de Al Hoceima à tarfaya , ce que personne ne voit et ne veut voir et sous l'eau , ils vous suffirais juste de mettre la tete dans l'eau et meme pour la baie d'agadir mais comment on peut laisser les gens ce baigner la dedans 🤪 , mais faut voir ce qui balancé comme égouts à Anza et de la grande geté d'agadir , sans compter l'oued Souss l'usine de carton balance tous , plus tous les égouts de inezagne ou Ait melloul la couleur et parfois violettes des fois bleu ou rose avec de la mousse dessus et l'odeur .. la j'aurai plaisir à vous y mettre la tete , on verra si vous allez en faire des sarcasme . Moi je trouve ça navrant énervant et bien d'autre mot et je suis née dans ce pays , mais tous les ans c'est pire , un ami me disait il faudrait interdire les plastiques au Maroc , oui mais à qui appartient l'usine qui les fabriques ..
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
Bonjour
bien sur cette pollution c'est grave , mais il faut malheureusement du temps pour faire bouger les choses !
à nous aussi d'en parler , d'aller faire nos courses avec un panier ( ce que je fais quand je vais au souk ) , de refuser les sacs pastique !
de donner l'exemple et d'expliquer les conséquences !
de peut-être par le biais d'associations ou de groupes , faire des nettoyages soi mêmes ...au début on te regarde en se moquant ...mais ça fait son chemin ( j'ai fait cela au Sénégal , c'est une goutte d'eau , mais il en faut pour faire un océan 😏)
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
" ..L'adresse de L'opticien ?.."
- Je n'ai jamais parlé d'opticien !.
" .. moi qui passe 80% de mon temps en mer.."
- Ca laisse peu de temps pour voir ce qui se passe hors de l'eau !.
" .. la j'aurai plaisir à vous y mettre la tete .." - Merci pour l'intention, mais il a des méthodes plus intelligentes pour exprimer ses convictions.
" .. et je suis née dans ce pays .." - D'après l'orthographe , vous seriez du genre féminin ? Quoiqu'il en soit, le fait d'être né dans ce pays ne vous donne pas le monopole de la vérité. Sinon j'aurais quelques avances sur vous y étant aussi né...mais quelques décennies avant vous !.
Pour conclure, je dirais que le Maroc, que j'aime et connais sûrement mieux que vous ( tout au moins pour sa partie émergée ..) est pour moi le plus propre des pays sales que je connaisse .. Il y a bien sûr des efforts à faire et il faudra encore du temps pour y parvenir. Mais cela passe avant tout par un changement de comportement culturel résultant d'une prise de conscience de chaque Marocaine et Marocain.
" .. la j'aurai plaisir à vous y mettre la tete .." - Merci pour l'intention, mais il a des méthodes plus intelligentes pour exprimer ses convictions.
" .. et je suis née dans ce pays .." - D'après l'orthographe , vous seriez du genre féminin ? Quoiqu'il en soit, le fait d'être né dans ce pays ne vous donne pas le monopole de la vérité. Sinon j'aurais quelques avances sur vous y étant aussi né...mais quelques décennies avant vous !.
Pour conclure, je dirais que le Maroc, que j'aime et connais sûrement mieux que vous ( tout au moins pour sa partie émergée ..) est pour moi le plus propre des pays sales que je connaisse .. Il y a bien sûr des efforts à faire et il faudra encore du temps pour y parvenir. Mais cela passe avant tout par un changement de comportement culturel résultant d'une prise de conscience de chaque Marocaine et Marocain.
Tout a fait d'accord..
D'ailleurs, ce n'est pas moi qui ai parlé de "m...e" ou écrit : "..la j'aurai plaisir à vous y mettre la tete , on verra si vous allez en faire des sarcasme .."
Le "chut" ne me concerne donc pas surtout après avoir apporté une réponse imagée qui ne me parait pas être un discours "sans fin" .. ( message 13 ..)
Je clos ici la discussion.
😊 Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu je reviens tout juste d'Agadir
J'étais aux cascades Lundi 24 Juin je m'y suis baigné ! c'était super, nous avons constaté la présence de quelques détritus mais rien de bien méchant je m'attendais à pire vu ce que j'avais pu lire.
En tout les cas les cascades étaient pleines. Merci encore
bonjour
merci pour ce retour !
cordialement
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
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Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!







