Pour ou contre les vaccins avant le voyage au Pérou et en Equateur?
by Viajador
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
je part pour le Pérou et l'Équateur durant 11 semaines. Je compte faire les montagnes. Moi je suis vraiment contre les vaccins et j'aurais aimer avoir l'avis de gens.
Donnez moi votre avis vous qui avez voyagé!
Les vaccins...
Certains disent que c'est un luxe dont tu peux te passer, que tu as peu de chance d'attraper qqchose, etc... tu dois être de ceux-là, non ?
Ceci dit, chaque année des touristes "occidentaux" reviennent avec ces maladies (fièvre jaune, typhoïde, hépatiteA...), avec des séquelles à long terme (hépatite A)... et certaines d'entre elles sont mortelles (typhoïde par ex.)...
Alors moi, je me pose pas trop de questions : si 5 ou 6 petites piqûres m'évitent : de stresser à propos des risques, de me poser des questions devant chaque plat que l'on me propose en voyage... de me retrouver à l'hôpital dans ces pays où la médecine et les normes sanitaires ne sont pas tout-à-fait comparables aux nôtres (pas garanti que les aiguilles soient à usage unique là-bas !), ou de revenir bien malade... voire les pieds devant! ... mon choix est tout fait ! je me vaccine !!
D'autre part, dès que tu te mets à voyager un peu en Afrique, en Asie... certains vaccins sont obligatoires pour entrer dans le pays (ex: fièvre jaune dans de nombreux pays d'Afrique)...
A propos des vaccins pour le Pérou + précisément, tu peux voir la conversation suivante (ni la 1ère, ni la dernière sur ce thème): http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=497506
T'as si peur que ça des aiguilles ?! 😛
Certains disent que c'est un luxe dont tu peux te passer, que tu as peu de chance d'attraper qqchose, etc... tu dois être de ceux-là, non ?
Ceci dit, chaque année des touristes "occidentaux" reviennent avec ces maladies (fièvre jaune, typhoïde, hépatiteA...), avec des séquelles à long terme (hépatite A)... et certaines d'entre elles sont mortelles (typhoïde par ex.)...
Alors moi, je me pose pas trop de questions : si 5 ou 6 petites piqûres m'évitent : de stresser à propos des risques, de me poser des questions devant chaque plat que l'on me propose en voyage... de me retrouver à l'hôpital dans ces pays où la médecine et les normes sanitaires ne sont pas tout-à-fait comparables aux nôtres (pas garanti que les aiguilles soient à usage unique là-bas !), ou de revenir bien malade... voire les pieds devant! ... mon choix est tout fait ! je me vaccine !!
D'autre part, dès que tu te mets à voyager un peu en Afrique, en Asie... certains vaccins sont obligatoires pour entrer dans le pays (ex: fièvre jaune dans de nombreux pays d'Afrique)...
A propos des vaccins pour le Pérou + précisément, tu peux voir la conversation suivante (ni la 1ère, ni la dernière sur ce thème): http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=497506
T'as si peur que ça des aiguilles ?! 😛
"Nous méritons toutes nos rencontres ; elles sont accordées à notre destin, et ont une signification qu'il nous appartient de déchiffrer." Mauriac
Il ne faut pas se shooter mais il ya un minimum sanitaire. La thyphoïde en montagne n'est peut-être pas nécessaire mais je pense que l'hépatite (A ET B) est indispensable. Si tu te mèle à la population locale, ce que je te souhaite, tu n'as aucune garantie sur la qualité des aliments concernant ces virus. Un de mes amis a du être rapatrié du congo pour soigner une hépatite. Il l'avait attrappée en mangeant chez des amis.
Renseignes toi à une consultation de médecine du voyage mais aborde quand même les infos qu'ils te fourniront avec un esprit critique. Nous sommes, par exemple, en désaccord avec l'institut de médecine tropicale sur la prescription anti malaria qu'ils nous ont donné.
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parce qu´un jour il faut arrèter de rêver et sortir les plans du tiroir (Amyr Klink)
Salut, si tu restes en montagnes, fais les vaccins pour l'hépatite, la fièvre jaune n'est pas utile.
A+
Es un hombre que se va, la lagrima se queda.
Je crois que l´on est tous hunanime, ca ne sert a rien de prendre des risques inutiles, il y a trop a perdre, fais toi vacciner ca vaut mieu!
Bonsoir,
je suis d'accord: il y a des risques qu'on peut éviter alors!!!!! y'a pas photo!!
pour le dernier voyage j'ai seulement pas fait faire le vaccin méningite pour ma fille donner par les guides écrits mais pas par les médecins spécialisés
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salut
ne le prends pas mal, mais j'hallucine de pouvoir entendre une phrase comme "moi, je suis vraiment contre les vaccins".
c'est completement a cote de la plaque, c'est comme dire "je prefere conduire en fermant un oeil" ou "j'aime pas trop me servir de ma jambe gauche"!
je ne te dis pas de faire du zele, et de te faire vacciner a tour de bras, mais ce qui est conseillé doit etre fait. Les medecins ne s'amusent pas a vacciner pour "faire du chiffre" ou pour "enrichir l'industrie pharmaceutique".
par ailleurs, quand toi tu ne te fais pas vacciner, tu te mets en danger toi-meme, mais tu mets aussi en danger les autres, puisque tu deviens un transporteur de la maladie, .... et un danger pour les autres! La vaccination individuelle est une protection de la collectivitee dans laquelle tu vis.
je pense (et surtout j'espere) que si tu as des enfants, tu les feras vacciner comme il se doit. Il y a beaucoup de vaccions a faire dans la petite enfance, et ne pas le faire est une inconscience totale. C'est d'ailleurs puni par la loi concernant certaines vaccinations. "mise en danger volontaire de la vie d'autrui".
desole, je deborde un peu, je ne veux pas etre agressif, juste te mettre en garde.... pour ton bien, et celui des autres.
bye et bon voyage.
ne le prends pas mal, mais j'hallucine de pouvoir entendre une phrase comme "moi, je suis vraiment contre les vaccins".
c'est completement a cote de la plaque, c'est comme dire "je prefere conduire en fermant un oeil" ou "j'aime pas trop me servir de ma jambe gauche"!
je ne te dis pas de faire du zele, et de te faire vacciner a tour de bras, mais ce qui est conseillé doit etre fait. Les medecins ne s'amusent pas a vacciner pour "faire du chiffre" ou pour "enrichir l'industrie pharmaceutique".
par ailleurs, quand toi tu ne te fais pas vacciner, tu te mets en danger toi-meme, mais tu mets aussi en danger les autres, puisque tu deviens un transporteur de la maladie, .... et un danger pour les autres! La vaccination individuelle est une protection de la collectivitee dans laquelle tu vis.
je pense (et surtout j'espere) que si tu as des enfants, tu les feras vacciner comme il se doit. Il y a beaucoup de vaccions a faire dans la petite enfance, et ne pas le faire est une inconscience totale. C'est d'ailleurs puni par la loi concernant certaines vaccinations. "mise en danger volontaire de la vie d'autrui".
desole, je deborde un peu, je ne veux pas etre agressif, juste te mettre en garde.... pour ton bien, et celui des autres.
bye et bon voyage.
nous avons passé 2 mois en equateur . on s'est beaucoup questionné avant de partir sur les vaccins car on n'est pas pour non plus . aucun vaccins obligatoires, moi je regrette de les avoir fait, g fait fievre jaune ( pas remboursé) et hepatite A . Franchement je ne pensse pas que c une neccesité d'autant plus qu'ici en france on nous fait peur et on nous sur vaccine sans vraiment savoir les conditions exacte . tout comme les traitement pallu pas besoin au dessus de 1200 m selement pres de la cote et amazonie ( pour l'equateur) si tu fait que de la montagne pas de sousi . renseigne toi juste quand tu bouge dans le pays, les gens la bas sont plus au courant. prevoit quelques plaquette y a un traitement je croit que c la malarone moins nocif que d'autre mais plus cher, avantage tu prend un cachet la veille donc ta le tps de voir sur place . voila si ta des question precise hesite pas . bise
salut
je suis parti 2 mois au pérou dont un mois à Iquitos avec comme unique vaccin celui de l'hépatite B et le tétanos... Lorsque j'étais en pleine Selva, le couple d' Hollandais qui m'accompagnait a été malade à cause de leur traitement anti-paludéens.... En revanche, il y avait en décembre 2005 une épidémie de fièvre jaune déclarée et meurtrière dans la région de Chachapoyas.... Alors si c'était à refaire je pense que je n'échapperais pas à une piqure supplémentaire...
je suis parti 2 mois au pérou dont un mois à Iquitos avec comme unique vaccin celui de l'hépatite B et le tétanos... Lorsque j'étais en pleine Selva, le couple d' Hollandais qui m'accompagnait a été malade à cause de leur traitement anti-paludéens.... En revanche, il y avait en décembre 2005 une épidémie de fièvre jaune déclarée et meurtrière dans la région de Chachapoyas.... Alors si c'était à refaire je pense que je n'échapperais pas à une piqure supplémentaire...
Sachant qu'une tartine de beurre tombe toujours du côté beurré et qu'un chat retombe toujours sur ses pattes, de quel côté tombe une tartine de beurre solidement attachée sur le dos d'un chat???
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