Egypte du 2 au 11 mai prochain, que conseillez-vous?
by Kimlo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut!
Je pars seule en Egypte pour une dizaine de jours. J'aimerais que les plus expérimentés dans ce pays m'aident à concevoir mon circuit. Je pense arriver au Caire (¿?) et faire le reste à ma tête (ce qui comporte des risques), bus, train (¿?) peut-être surfcouching...
Mes intérêts: culture avant tout; (archéologie, histoire, socio, politique, littérature...)
"Sensibilité particulière": ARTS en genéral, peinture et ARTISANAT, les ESPACES VERTS (je pense que l'Egypte c'est pas l'endroit pour le vert m'enfin si vous savez où s'oxygéner en sortant des villes)
PAS DE PERMIS DE CONDUIRE
1m58, 42 kg, expérience de boulot 3 mois en Capadoce, 46 ans, je résiste difficilement à la tentation de connaître les choses de plus près et entre le Hilton et la paille je préfère souvent la paille...
TOUTES VOS IDEES ET CONSEILS SONT LES BIENVENUS.
Je pense partir vêtue d'un sarouel et T-shirt et m'acheter sur place selon mes besoins. (¿?) Je peux "errer" dans les souks sans trop de risques?
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MERCI!
Bonjour,
et faire le reste à ma tête (ce qui comporte des risques)
Pas particulièrement.
PAS DE PERMIS DE CONDUIRE
B Aucune importance en Egypte.
Je peux "errer" dans les souks sans trop de risques?
A part celui de se faire draguer, je ne vois pas trop, non...
Michel
et faire le reste à ma tête (ce qui comporte des risques)
Pas particulièrement.
PAS DE PERMIS DE CONDUIRE
B Aucune importance en Egypte.
Je peux "errer" dans les souks sans trop de risques?
A part celui de se faire draguer, je ne vois pas trop, non...
Michel
J'aimerais aller plus à fond si tu veux.
😮🤪😕....... Vous avez de ces expressions.... On se connaît ?
Michel
😮🤪😕....... Vous avez de ces expressions.... On se connaît ?
Michel
Je n'ai pas l'esprit mal tourné, mais vos majuscules et votre familiarité..... 🤪
Pour quelqu'une de toute récemment inscrite...
Je me suis demandé si nous avions discuté par le passé.
C'est tout.
Michel
Michel
On continue pour voir?
Il me semble qu'on peut en rester là. Bonne soirée,
Michel
Il me semble qu'on peut en rester là. Bonne soirée,
Michel
et faire le reste à ma tête (ce qui comporte des risques)
"Pas particulièrement. "
Ça dépend p'têt' de la tête, non?... Mais comme on n'est pas là pour faire de la psicho, voyons voir, je vais essayer d'être claire (je te demandes pardon pour mon français, je le pratique rarement):
Comme beaucoup de petits, j'aboie facilement. Quand tu dis "draguer", tu parles de la routine du vendeur avec les étrangères dans les lieux touristiques, ou qu'on peut pas se ballader tranquillement, regarder ce qu'on veut le temps qu'on veut?...
Je vis dans une île que j'ai pas choisie, pour des questions de boulot. Quand je peux en sortir, il faut vraiment pas que ça foire. En fait j'hésite, entre l'Egypte et la Syrie, pour ces dix jours.
Alors je te dis ce que je crains du Caire:
Un air tellement irrespirable que ça te tord les boyaux,
Et de l'Egypte:
Je voudrais pendre le bus, le train, et à lire les commentaires c'est pas prudent de s'échapper des excursions organisées. Moi j'ai toujours été plutôt aventurière, mais bon, "à mon âge" on fait l'effort d'y penser avant...😇
Je voudrais aussi qu'on me parle de la "bohème" egyptienne, les endroits d'ambiance creative, les cafés intellos...??? Moi je crois pas que ça va me "pâmer", les pyramides. Par contre l'ambiance intellectuelle et creative d'un pays si, ça me passionne.¿?Bonjour,
les ESPACES VERTS (je pense que l'Egypte c'est pas l'endroit pour le vert m'enfin si vous savez où s'oxygéner en sortant des villes)
Mais si, du coté d'Assouan, il y a l'ile kitchener (jardin botanique) ou une nalade en bateau a travers les iles de la première catarate. Au Caire, il y a le zoo mais bof, j'y vais car je loge pas loin quand je suis au Caire mais il est à l'image du pays, pas très propre.
bus, train (¿?) peut-être surfcouching...
Si tu peux privilégier le train, car au vu de l'art de la conduite en Egypte, ça peut être risqué mais personnellement j'ai voyage en taxi, taxi coco, bus, train, taxi collectif, avion, j'ai pas encore essayé le vélo mai sje tiens un peu à ma vie.
Je pense partir vêtue d'un sarouel et T-shirt
perso je suis en pantalon et tee-shirt, si tu vas seule en moyenne égypte prévoit des manches longues. Le seule endroit ou j'ai eu des problèmes c'est en me promenant sur les berge du nil à El Mynia en après midi, je me suis fait caouilletté (sans mal, surtout de la provoque) par un ados (aussi bête qu'en France) mais un adulte est intervenu et j'ai pu aller boire un verre sur un bateau tranquillement. Au Caire je couche chez l'habitant mais je les connais depuis longtemps, lui est guide et est mon ami. Il faut quand même savoir que pour beaucoup d'Egyptien, le mariage avec une européenne est pour eux une issu pour sortir de la misère donc ils sont très avenant et t'inviteront avec plaisir chez eux même si ils sont mariés.
Pour les conseilles: regarde la rubrique info pratiques de mon blog. lol
les ESPACES VERTS (je pense que l'Egypte c'est pas l'endroit pour le vert m'enfin si vous savez où s'oxygéner en sortant des villes)
Mais si, du coté d'Assouan, il y a l'ile kitchener (jardin botanique) ou une nalade en bateau a travers les iles de la première catarate. Au Caire, il y a le zoo mais bof, j'y vais car je loge pas loin quand je suis au Caire mais il est à l'image du pays, pas très propre.
bus, train (¿?) peut-être surfcouching...
Si tu peux privilégier le train, car au vu de l'art de la conduite en Egypte, ça peut être risqué mais personnellement j'ai voyage en taxi, taxi coco, bus, train, taxi collectif, avion, j'ai pas encore essayé le vélo mai sje tiens un peu à ma vie.
Je pense partir vêtue d'un sarouel et T-shirt
perso je suis en pantalon et tee-shirt, si tu vas seule en moyenne égypte prévoit des manches longues. Le seule endroit ou j'ai eu des problèmes c'est en me promenant sur les berge du nil à El Mynia en après midi, je me suis fait caouilletté (sans mal, surtout de la provoque) par un ados (aussi bête qu'en France) mais un adulte est intervenu et j'ai pu aller boire un verre sur un bateau tranquillement. Au Caire je couche chez l'habitant mais je les connais depuis longtemps, lui est guide et est mon ami. Il faut quand même savoir que pour beaucoup d'Egyptien, le mariage avec une européenne est pour eux une issu pour sortir de la misère donc ils sont très avenant et t'inviteront avec plaisir chez eux même si ils sont mariés.
Pour les conseilles: regarde la rubrique info pratiques de mon blog. lol
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Salut kimlo,
Je reviens de l'égypte, à l'instant... un pays magnifique, une population agréable et joviale, de belles découvertes culturelles et franchement très peu d'insécurité... Je déteste aussi les groupes organisés, aussi nous étions deux à aller au grés de nos découvertes... Notre trajet : Caire- Dahab- Petra (jordanie)- mer morte(jordanie)- dahab- louxor- hurghada... en deux semaines...
Le caire, magnifique ville mais tres polluée... promenade dans le caire islamique puis repos dans les mosqués, pyramides et circuits touristique... pour se déplacer, nos pieds... et une journee ou on avait reserver le taxi pour voir les pyramides... 160 livres egyptiennes pour la journée...
bus de nuit jusqua Dahab... nous y avons fait de nombreuses rencontre... tres securitaire bien que peu reposant... il y avait des filles voyageant seules... elles ont dit se sentir tres a l'aise... dahab... le havre de paix, la plongee, le snorkeling... mais juste fantastique... un réelle coup de coeur...
je ne conseille pas la jordanie simplement parce que la traverse en bateau depuis l'égypte prends un temps fou en formalité...
Louxor, c'est le paradi de la culture... les temples, les tombeaux a couper le souffle... possibilité de s'oxygene sur le nil en faisant un tour de felouque... les vendeurs sont plus agressifs mais on s'en sort avec un non merci insistant...
alors voila, si tu as des questions !! bon voyage
Le caire, magnifique ville mais tres polluée... promenade dans le caire islamique puis repos dans les mosqués, pyramides et circuits touristique... pour se déplacer, nos pieds... et une journee ou on avait reserver le taxi pour voir les pyramides... 160 livres egyptiennes pour la journée...
bus de nuit jusqua Dahab... nous y avons fait de nombreuses rencontre... tres securitaire bien que peu reposant... il y avait des filles voyageant seules... elles ont dit se sentir tres a l'aise... dahab... le havre de paix, la plongee, le snorkeling... mais juste fantastique... un réelle coup de coeur...
je ne conseille pas la jordanie simplement parce que la traverse en bateau depuis l'égypte prends un temps fou en formalité...
Louxor, c'est le paradi de la culture... les temples, les tombeaux a couper le souffle... possibilité de s'oxygene sur le nil en faisant un tour de felouque... les vendeurs sont plus agressifs mais on s'en sort avec un non merci insistant...
alors voila, si tu as des questions !! bon voyage
Je ne suis canadienne que sur papier
car ma nationalité c'est le monde entier !
Merci beaucoup à tous!
En fait j'ai reprogrammé mes vacances. Comme je prends un mois en septembre, j'irai à cette époque en Syrie et en Egypte. Je reviendrai donc vous poser des questions un peu avant.
Mes dix jours en mai je vais en Andalousie, j'adore!...
Si vous avez des questions pour le Canada, les Canaries, l'Espagne ou la Bolivie, à votre service!
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards




