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Bonjour,
depuis San Pedro de Atacama, nous voudrions regagner Calama en passant par le Tatio. Nous avons loué un 2/4. Pouvez vous me donner des renseignements sur l'état de la route Tatio/Calama. Merci beaucoup.
État de la route du Tatio à Calama (Chili)
by Mfdp
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Si c'est un SUV, cela passe mais pas avec une voiture classique car il y a des passages de cours d'eau. Votre loueur ne vous a rien dit à ce sujet? C'est à SPA que vous aurez la meilleure info. nous l'avons fait en juillet en minibus comme la majorité des touristes. Peu de voitures particulières sur le chemin qui est essentiellement une piste gravillonnée.
Bonjour, depuis San Pedro de Atacama, nous voudrions regagner Calama en passant par le Tatio. Nous avons loué un 2/4. Pouvez vous me donner des renseignements sur l'état de la route Tatio/Calama. Merci beaucoup.
Bonjour,
Il y a quelques années encore, la boucle San Pedro / Tatio / Calama / San Pedro était fort utilisée par les agences de voyages de San Pedro qui en profitaient pour déposer des touristes à l'aéroport de Calama avant de revenir au village du désert.
Mais, il me semble qu'actuellement, suite à des plaintes de nombreux chauffeurs qui trouvaient le trajet trop long, très peu d'agence effectuent ce circuit. (En effet, partir à 4h00 du matin de San Pedro pour y revenir à 18h00, et ensuite nettoyer le véhicule, cela fatigue n'importe qui quand on sait que les chauffeurs peuvent conduire plusieurs journées d'afilée sans se reposer.)
Il me semble également que la réglementation a changé et que pour effectuer ce parcours, les véhicules doivent compter sur un deuxième chauffeur, ce qui augmente les coûts, raison pour laquelle aussi les agences ont laissé tomber cette boucle.
En résumé, le trajet entre San Pedro et les geysers est assez fréquenté en matinée. Par contre, sur la route -ou plus exactement la piste sur une grande partie du trajet- entre les geysers et Calama, vous devriez rencontrer très très peu de monde.
L'état de cette piste pourrait changer suite aux pluies de l'hiver bolivien, phénomène climatique qui pourrait éventuellement survenir en décembre, janvier ou février.
Avant les pluies (possibles mais pas certaines) l'état de la piste devrait être correct. Après, il pourrait en être autrement et ce, jusqu'au moment où le service de voirie locale soit passé.
Cela fait très longtemps que je n'effectue plus cette route mais je me rappelle parfaitement que la première fois que je l'ai fait, c'était avec une petite Lada conduite par un habitant de Calama.
Il faudrait un retour récent de quelqu'un ayant emprunté la même piste.
Thierry
Bonjour,
Il y a quelques années encore, la boucle San Pedro / Tatio / Calama / San Pedro était fort utilisée par les agences de voyages de San Pedro qui en profitaient pour déposer des touristes à l'aéroport de Calama avant de revenir au village du désert.
Mais, il me semble qu'actuellement, suite à des plaintes de nombreux chauffeurs qui trouvaient le trajet trop long, très peu d'agence effectuent ce circuit. (En effet, partir à 4h00 du matin de San Pedro pour y revenir à 18h00, et ensuite nettoyer le véhicule, cela fatigue n'importe qui quand on sait que les chauffeurs peuvent conduire plusieurs journées d'afilée sans se reposer.)
Il me semble également que la réglementation a changé et que pour effectuer ce parcours, les véhicules doivent compter sur un deuxième chauffeur, ce qui augmente les coûts, raison pour laquelle aussi les agences ont laissé tomber cette boucle.
En résumé, le trajet entre San Pedro et les geysers est assez fréquenté en matinée. Par contre, sur la route -ou plus exactement la piste sur une grande partie du trajet- entre les geysers et Calama, vous devriez rencontrer très très peu de monde.
L'état de cette piste pourrait changer suite aux pluies de l'hiver bolivien, phénomène climatique qui pourrait éventuellement survenir en décembre, janvier ou février.
Avant les pluies (possibles mais pas certaines) l'état de la piste devrait être correct. Après, il pourrait en être autrement et ce, jusqu'au moment où le service de voirie locale soit passé.
Cela fait très longtemps que je n'effectue plus cette route mais je me rappelle parfaitement que la première fois que je l'ai fait, c'était avec une petite Lada conduite par un habitant de Calama.
Il faudrait un retour récent de quelqu'un ayant emprunté la même piste.
Thierry
Thierry Swysen
Il semble que beaucoup de tours fassent SPA/Tatio/SPA...Mais comme nous rendons la voiture à l'aéroport de Calama, nous allons le faire ainsi. Nous avons loué une Chevrolet 2/4 et sommes allés aujourd'hui aux lagunes Miscanti et Miniques et au superbe salar de Talar. Sans problème. On va essayer. Merci !
Bonjour,
La majeur partie de la route entre les Tatio et Calama est en bon état à l'exception notable de la première partie (la déviation qui permet de quitter la route des Tatio à San Pedro pour rejoindre celle de Tocopuri à Calama). Pour cette partie là, veillez avant tout à disposer d'un véhicule assez haut, sinon vos "bas de caisse" vont racler sur les ornières et très certainement s'abîmer.
Le reste de la route a été refaite et goudronnée, prenez toutefois en compte : - qu'il s'agit d'une route de montagne avec parfois des courbes très serrée, et des ravins sur les bords (vous apercevrez quelques véhicules qui ont fait des tout-droit) - qu'il y a effectivement très très peu de passage - qu'il y a souvent des animaux sur la route à cause justement du fait qu'il y a peu de passage.
Donc, c'est faisable mais avec beaucoup de prudence et en allant à une vitesse raisonnable (ne vous fiez pas forcément aux limitations de vitesse, allez moins vite, vous ne créerez pas d'embouteillages et vous pourrez ainsi éviter les animaux, et ne pas être surpris par certains virages ou "Baden").
Bon voyage, Emilie
La majeur partie de la route entre les Tatio et Calama est en bon état à l'exception notable de la première partie (la déviation qui permet de quitter la route des Tatio à San Pedro pour rejoindre celle de Tocopuri à Calama). Pour cette partie là, veillez avant tout à disposer d'un véhicule assez haut, sinon vos "bas de caisse" vont racler sur les ornières et très certainement s'abîmer.
Le reste de la route a été refaite et goudronnée, prenez toutefois en compte : - qu'il s'agit d'une route de montagne avec parfois des courbes très serrée, et des ravins sur les bords (vous apercevrez quelques véhicules qui ont fait des tout-droit) - qu'il y a effectivement très très peu de passage - qu'il y a souvent des animaux sur la route à cause justement du fait qu'il y a peu de passage.
Donc, c'est faisable mais avec beaucoup de prudence et en allant à une vitesse raisonnable (ne vous fiez pas forcément aux limitations de vitesse, allez moins vite, vous ne créerez pas d'embouteillages et vous pourrez ainsi éviter les animaux, et ne pas être surpris par certains virages ou "Baden").
Bon voyage, Emilie
Le reste de la route a été refaite et goudronnée, prenez toutefois en compte :
- qu'il s'agit d'une route de montagne avec parfois des courbes très serrée, et des ravins sur les bords (vous apercevrez quelques véhicules qui ont fait des tout-droit)
Je ne me rappelle plus du nom de la fameuse côte qu'emprunte la route de Calama au Tatio. ¿Cuesta Chita?
(En 1986, c'était une piste depuis Calama, jusqu'aux geysers, au retour les voitures étaient toutes d'une couleur blanchâtre -les passagers aussi- à cause de la fameuse chusca qui s'infilitrait partout dans le véhicule, même les fenêtres fermées.)
La cuesta del Diablo, c'est bien celle qui passe par le campamento Saziel? Je suppose qu'à l'heure actuelle, il y a très peu de trafic aussi de ce côté là, tout le monde passant par Machuca?
Je ne me rappelle plus du nom de la fameuse côte qu'emprunte la route de Calama au Tatio. ¿Cuesta Chita?
(En 1986, c'était une piste depuis Calama, jusqu'aux geysers, au retour les voitures étaient toutes d'une couleur blanchâtre -les passagers aussi- à cause de la fameuse chusca qui s'infilitrait partout dans le véhicule, même les fenêtres fermées.)
La cuesta del Diablo, c'est bien celle qui passe par le campamento Saziel? Je suppose qu'à l'heure actuelle, il y a très peu de trafic aussi de ce côté là, tout le monde passant par Machuca?
Thierry Swysen
La cuesta del Diablo, c'est bien celle qui passe par le campamento Saziel? Je suppose qu'à l'heure actuelle, il y a très peu de trafic aussi de ce côté là, tout le monde passant par Machuca?
Celle-ci est fermée depuis les dernières pluies... ou les précédentes ! Je ne sais plus, mais en tout cas elle est fermée, en venant de San Pedro juste après les thermes de Puritama, et dans l'autre sens, juste après el vado Putana.
Celle-ci est fermée depuis les dernières pluies... ou les précédentes ! Je ne sais plus, mais en tout cas elle est fermée, en venant de San Pedro juste après les thermes de Puritama, et dans l'autre sens, juste après el vado Putana.
En 1986, et puis jusque dans les annés 95 je crois, la Cuesta del Diablo était à faire absolument. La nuit, lors de la montée depuis SPA on ne se rendait pas bien compte de l'inclinaison et du ravin à côté. Par contre, au retour du Tatio, on allait bien plus lentement que pour la montée. Ensuite, ils l'ont élargie et puis ils ont ouvert la piste passant par Machuca. À l'époque, le tourisme commençait seulement. Si on compare, les paysages n'ont pas changé, il y a juste un peu plus de monde :).
Thierry Swysen
Bonjour,
En 2017 vous projetiez de faire San Pedro d'Atacama-Geyser del Tatio-Aeroport de Calama...Si vous l'avez fait, je serais ravie d'avoir quelques infos... A savoir : l'état de la route-piste ? si possible à faire en voiture de tourisme ? ou nécessité d'un 4x4 ? et le temps que vous avez mis...surtout des Geysers à l 'aéroport de Calama ?
Merci beaucoup
emilia
Bonjour,
En 2017 vous projetiez de faire San Pedro d'Atacama-Geyser del Tatio-Aeroport de Calama...Si vous l'avez fait, je serais ravie d'avoir quelques infos... A savoir : l'état de la route-piste ? si possible à faire en voiture de tourisme ? ou nécessité d'un 4x4 ? et le temps que vous avez mis...surtout des Geysers à l 'aéroport de Calama ?
Merci beaucoup
Bonjour,
À la mi-février 2019, elle était coupée suite aux pluies de l'hiver des hauts plateaux. (J'avais ouvert un post à l'époque https://voyageforum.com/discussion/precipitations-dans-desert-atacama-d9300944/)
J'ignore par contre si la piste a été refaite depuis par le service des voiries MOP. Si ce n'est pas le cas, vous devez retournez à Calama via San Pedro.
Bonne chance.
Thierry
Bonjour,
À la mi-février 2019, elle était coupée suite aux pluies de l'hiver des hauts plateaux. (J'avais ouvert un post à l'époque https://voyageforum.com/discussion/precipitations-dans-desert-atacama-d9300944/)
J'ignore par contre si la piste a été refaite depuis par le service des voiries MOP. Si ce n'est pas le cas, vous devez retournez à Calama via San Pedro.
Bonne chance.
Thierry
Thierry Swysen
Merci pour votre réponse.
Nous partons en octobre...
Finalement je prévois un jour de plus dans le désert d'Atacama pour pouvoir faire un A/R San Pedro -Geysers del Tatio... je pense que c'est plus sûr !
Par contre, pensez-vous qu'on puisse le faire seuls en voiture de tourisme ?
Merci et Bonne journée
emilia
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Que pensez-vous de ce programme ? Est-ce faisable en 17 jours ? Merci par avance pour vos conseils et recommandations. martine
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Hey everyone,
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I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé