États-Unis: Quelle catégorie de location pour les pistes
by JMPe
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour.
Actuellement, quelle catégorie de voiture de location faut-il choisir pour avoir les meilleures chances d'obtenir un véhicule offrant de bonnes possibilités de franchissement pour des pistes " sérieuses " ?
Merci à tous de votre aide.
Jean-Michel.
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
Bonsoir Jean-Michel,
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...sauf s'il existe - sans doute - des loueurs spécifiques ? Bonne journée.
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...sauf s'il existe - sans doute - des loueurs spécifiques ? Bonne journée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...
Je sais, mais il faut parfois savoir prendre quelques risques 😉.
Je sais, mais il faut parfois savoir prendre quelques risques 😉.
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
Hello JM
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...sauf s'il existe - sans doute - des loueurs spécifiques ?
S'il fallait exclure de ce forum tous ceux qui ont au moins une fois emprunté une piste avec leur voiture de loc, il n'y aurait plus grand monde ici et c'est certain, plus aucun habitué 😏 Serais-tu donc le seul à ne l'avoir jamais fait ? 😮 😉
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...sauf s'il existe - sans doute - des loueurs spécifiques ?
S'il fallait exclure de ce forum tous ceux qui ont au moins une fois emprunté une piste avec leur voiture de loc, il n'y aurait plus grand monde ici et c'est certain, plus aucun habitué 😏 Serais-tu donc le seul à ne l'avoir jamais fait ? 😮 😉
Bonsoir Jean-Michel,
J'ai raconte deja plusieurs fois sur ce forum ce que j'ai vu il y a quelques annees a Monument Valley.
Au cours d'un violent orage, les "Wash" qui sont generalement a sec, un de ces "Wash" c'etait transforme en un torrent de boue et d'eau. Une voiture a ete emportee, pas tres loin et sans dommage pour les passagers, mais la voiture etait en triste etat. Les Navajos sont venus avec un camion pour la retirer. je ne sais pas si c'etait une voiture de location ou non, si s'en etait une, le co0nductreur a du se rappeler du prix de sa "Location"
Alors, je dirai a notre future voyageur, attention!😊
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonjour,
A ton avis ? bien sur que si je l'ai fait, pas beaucoup, seulement la piste de Monument Valley, c'était un tel rêve qu'il en aurait fallu plus pour m'en dissuader ! et un petit bout à Capitol Reef.
C'était juste une mise en garde.
Bonne journée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Je crois savoir que dans les contrats de locations des loueurs habituels, il est interdit de prendre des pistes...sauf s'il existe - sans doute - des loueurs spécifiques ?
S'il fallait exclure de ce forum tous ceux qui ont au moins une fois emprunté une piste avec leur voiture de loc, il n'y aurait plus grand monde ici et c'est certain, plus aucun habitué 😏 Serais-tu donc le seul à ne l'avoir jamais fait ? 😮 😉
Pour ma part, je l'ai fait à de nombreuses reprises, par exemple la White Rim Road ou la traversée de l'Islande, mais ça fait très longtemps que je ne le fais plus. Les dommages aux véhicules (panne, carrosserie, remorquage), je saurais les assumer, mais pas la responsabilité civile (liability). Je ne vais pas perdre tout ce que je possède parce que j'ai blessé quelqu'un en conduisant sans assurance. C'est un risque peu probable mais très grave, et c'est pour ça que les assurances sont le plus utiles (la perte de clé?...). Chacun a sa relation au risque et fait comme il l'entend.
Les assurances véhicule de location des cartes de crédit, que ce soit Premier, Infinity++ ou Super Top Executive, excluent toutes les 4x4 (si quelqu'un a un contrexemple, qu'il me donne le nom de sa banque et j'y ouvre un compte sur-le-champ).
J'ai cherché longuement des assurances voyages offrant ce type d'option, en Europe et en Amérique, et je n'en ai jamais trouvé.
En Alaska et au Yukon, on peut emprunter les pistes en louant un 4x4 auprès des loueurs locaux GoNorth ou Driving Force . Ce sont des sociétés sérieuses, le service y est meilleur que chez les grands loueurs et les montes de pneus sont adaptées au terrain. C'est un peu plus cher mais ça vaut largement la différence. Songeant à refaire la White Rim (vingt ans après l'avoir parcourue avec une petite Suzuki, pas besoin de Hummer, juste d'un peu de garde au sol, de quatre roues motrices et d'une vraie roue de secours), je m'étais renseigné à Moab auprès des loueurs de Jeeps. La plupart ne proposent qu'une assurance complémentaire couvrant les dommages au véhicules mais supposent que nous sommes couverts en responsabilité civile par notre assurance automobile personnelle. C'est vrai pour les Américains mais pas pour les Européens dont l'assurance ne couvre que l'usage du véhicule personnel.
Un seul loueur de Moab m'a donné une réponse satisfaisante, il s'agit de Cliffhanger Jeep Rental.Je lui ai posé cette question:
Your rental terms require an insurance card. In the US, most people are covered by their ordinary car insurance. But in our country, a personal car insurance will not cover rental cars. Actually, my credit card provides coverage for rental cars but excludes 4WD vehicles. I guess you have many tourists from Europe? How do they manage to get the necessary coverage (collision/damage waiver and, most importantly, liability insurance)? Do you provide insurance with a surcharge or should I contact a US insurance company ?
et j'ai eu cette réponse:
We do have many European clients that rent from us each year, and this is not the first time this question has been asked. The CDW is a full coverage insurance. It will cover other vehicles, and people involved in the accident. Of course there are caps to all insurances, but the insurance company we use is Zurich insurance, which is one of the largest commercial insurance companies in the world, and we have never had any problems with them in the past. The insurance is $50/day.
Cliffhanger propose une CDW de $50/jour avec franchise de $5000 (c'est beaucoup mais c'est une risque acceptable) qui si j'en crois ce message inclut la responsabilité civile en cas d'accident. Finalement, je n'ai pas encore repris la White Rim mais si je le fais ce sera avec lui.
Si quelqu'un a un meilleur tuyau, je suis très preneur.
S'il fallait exclure de ce forum tous ceux qui ont au moins une fois emprunté une piste avec leur voiture de loc, il n'y aurait plus grand monde ici et c'est certain, plus aucun habitué 😏 Serais-tu donc le seul à ne l'avoir jamais fait ? 😮 😉
Pour ma part, je l'ai fait à de nombreuses reprises, par exemple la White Rim Road ou la traversée de l'Islande, mais ça fait très longtemps que je ne le fais plus. Les dommages aux véhicules (panne, carrosserie, remorquage), je saurais les assumer, mais pas la responsabilité civile (liability). Je ne vais pas perdre tout ce que je possède parce que j'ai blessé quelqu'un en conduisant sans assurance. C'est un risque peu probable mais très grave, et c'est pour ça que les assurances sont le plus utiles (la perte de clé?...). Chacun a sa relation au risque et fait comme il l'entend.
Les assurances véhicule de location des cartes de crédit, que ce soit Premier, Infinity++ ou Super Top Executive, excluent toutes les 4x4 (si quelqu'un a un contrexemple, qu'il me donne le nom de sa banque et j'y ouvre un compte sur-le-champ).
J'ai cherché longuement des assurances voyages offrant ce type d'option, en Europe et en Amérique, et je n'en ai jamais trouvé.
En Alaska et au Yukon, on peut emprunter les pistes en louant un 4x4 auprès des loueurs locaux GoNorth ou Driving Force . Ce sont des sociétés sérieuses, le service y est meilleur que chez les grands loueurs et les montes de pneus sont adaptées au terrain. C'est un peu plus cher mais ça vaut largement la différence. Songeant à refaire la White Rim (vingt ans après l'avoir parcourue avec une petite Suzuki, pas besoin de Hummer, juste d'un peu de garde au sol, de quatre roues motrices et d'une vraie roue de secours), je m'étais renseigné à Moab auprès des loueurs de Jeeps. La plupart ne proposent qu'une assurance complémentaire couvrant les dommages au véhicules mais supposent que nous sommes couverts en responsabilité civile par notre assurance automobile personnelle. C'est vrai pour les Américains mais pas pour les Européens dont l'assurance ne couvre que l'usage du véhicule personnel.
Un seul loueur de Moab m'a donné une réponse satisfaisante, il s'agit de Cliffhanger Jeep Rental.Je lui ai posé cette question:
Your rental terms require an insurance card. In the US, most people are covered by their ordinary car insurance. But in our country, a personal car insurance will not cover rental cars. Actually, my credit card provides coverage for rental cars but excludes 4WD vehicles. I guess you have many tourists from Europe? How do they manage to get the necessary coverage (collision/damage waiver and, most importantly, liability insurance)? Do you provide insurance with a surcharge or should I contact a US insurance company ?
et j'ai eu cette réponse:
We do have many European clients that rent from us each year, and this is not the first time this question has been asked. The CDW is a full coverage insurance. It will cover other vehicles, and people involved in the accident. Of course there are caps to all insurances, but the insurance company we use is Zurich insurance, which is one of the largest commercial insurance companies in the world, and we have never had any problems with them in the past. The insurance is $50/day.
Cliffhanger propose une CDW de $50/jour avec franchise de $5000 (c'est beaucoup mais c'est une risque acceptable) qui si j'en crois ce message inclut la responsabilité civile en cas d'accident. Finalement, je n'ai pas encore repris la White Rim mais si je le fais ce sera avec lui.
Si quelqu'un a un meilleur tuyau, je suis très preneur.
Bonjour. Si tu as un peu d'argent le Hummer est très bien 😉😉😉😉 En juin 2015 j'ai loué un pickup chez Drive usa.de, loueur Alamo, j'ai eu un Toyota Tundra SR5 Double cab (26 jours de loc 1184 euros Garde au sol 10'6 pouce et 4x4 - V8 4,6 L) Nous étions 2 personnes : les bagages, glaciaire et les vivres dans la cabine derrière, siéges relevés. Et quelquefois dodo à la belle étoile dans la benne du pickup. Bonne journée. Simonic
seulement la piste de Monument Valley, c'était un tel rêve qu'il en aurait fallu plus pour m'en dissuader ! et un petit bout à Capitol Reef.
Je me doutais bien que tu l'avais fait au moins une fois mais ces 2 pistes que tu mentionnes, et au vu du trafic qu'il y a dessus, surtout MV, il faut être hyper prudent pour éviter l'accrochage car là effectivement pas d'assurance possible. Tout le monde (ou presque) s'y aventure avec sa voiture de loc or c'est là qu'on a le plus de chances d'avoir un accrochage finalement. Sur les autres pistes que j'ai empruntées, j'ai tellement croisé peu de voitures que le risque d'accrochage est franchement quasi nul.
Je me doutais bien que tu l'avais fait au moins une fois mais ces 2 pistes que tu mentionnes, et au vu du trafic qu'il y a dessus, surtout MV, il faut être hyper prudent pour éviter l'accrochage car là effectivement pas d'assurance possible. Tout le monde (ou presque) s'y aventure avec sa voiture de loc or c'est là qu'on a le plus de chances d'avoir un accrochage finalement. Sur les autres pistes que j'ai empruntées, j'ai tellement croisé peu de voitures que le risque d'accrochage est franchement quasi nul.
J'ai eu la possibilité de faire MV en juin ( 2013 ) et il y avait très peu de voitures - donc pas de souci - mais je surveillais de près mes rétros à cause des 4x4 des Navajos qui arrivent derrière plein pot ! surtout quand je voulais passer un peu à gauche pour éviter un trou !
Au final, pas de problème et quel souvenir. Je n'imaginais même pas me faire conduire sur cette piste dans un 4x4. Je voulais que ce soit moi - et mon épouse à côté quand même.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Merci à tous pour vos réponses.
J'ai oublié de préciser que je sais que sur les pistes les véhicules de location ne sont plus assurés.
Je sais que c'est un vrai risque et je suis près à le courir (ce ne sera pas la première fois).
Si le temps le permet, je souhaiterais tenter d'aller à Coyote butte south, voire White Pocket par mes propres moyens.
Pour ce faire, avec quelle catégorie de SUV (midsize, standard ou fullsize) ai-je le plus de chance d'avoir un véhicule qui me permettrait de rallier ces destinations ou d'autres avec des pistes comparables.
Merci de vos réponses à venir et bonne journée.
Jean-Michel.
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
Les modèles midsize sont des voitures de ville. J'ai eu un SUV standard qui n'avait pas de roue de secours mais un simple kit anticrevaison (Hyundai ou Kia). Il y a moins de risque de surprise avec un fullsize (pneus et garde au sol).
L'idéal sur terrain difficile est de passer par un loueur spécialisé qui proposera des Jeeps modifiées (rehaussées) plus agiles.
Bonjour. Ce n'est pas une question de catégories. Dans une même catégorie tu trouves des véhicules : 4x4 avec une garde au sol minable si tu te retrouves sur la piste de White Pocket. Tu as aussi des véhicules 4x4 avec une bonne garde au sol au niveau du pont arrière mais avec un énorme spoiler à l'avant, qui arrive à 20 cm du sol et là tu ressemble a un chasse neige sur la piste, une fois que les roues sont dans les ornières ( exp : White Pocket) En 2013 j'ai pris une catégorie Grand Jeep Cherokee dans l'espoir d'avoir un 4x4 et en plus si possible avec la possibilité de modifier la garde au sol ( très rare) . Pas de Cherokee. Et là tu fais comme moi tu attends sur le parking (si tu as le temps) les véhicules arrivent de la préparation : le gars n'a pas eu le temps de garer la Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Merci Mr Alamo . Bonne soirée. Groslap1
En fullsize moins de risque : Expedition, Tahoe, Yukon...
Y a-t-il des contrexemples ?
Pas facile de trouver la bonne solution 😉.
Merci des conseils.
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http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ : périple de 5 mois en Asie et 3 mois dans l'ouest Américain
Le conseil d'attendre qu'un véhicule " intéressant " arrive est noté.
Merci !
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Vous êtes combien de personnes ? Si c'est 2 un pickup genre Toyota tacoma ou Nissan Frontier en double cab pour les bagages à l'arrière (les pickup sont livrés sans couverture de benne) tu auras plus de chance d'avoir un 4x4 et une bonne " clearance 10.1 pour le Nissan et 9,4 pour le Toyota plus une vrai roue de secours. A toi de voir. En juin 2015 j'ai eu un Tundra : que du bonheur......... Salut. Regardes sur les sites des constructeurs pour avoir une idée du physique de la voiture .
Hello JM,
Et pourquoi d'ailleurs ne pas louer un véhicule SUV pour l'entièreté de ton futur voyage (genre Grand Cherokee) car vous emprunterez probablement d'autres pistes et une fois arrivés à Page, vous louez pour la journée une bonne grosse Jeep des familles avec pneus larges et tout le bataclan ...
Et pourquoi d'ailleurs ne pas louer un véhicule SUV pour l'entièreté de ton futur voyage (genre Grand Cherokee) car vous emprunterez probablement d'autres pistes et une fois arrivés à Page, vous louez pour la journée une bonne grosse Jeep des familles avec pneus larges et tout le bataclan ...
Bonjour,
Pour un circuit Colorado/petit bout d'Utah et Arizona, nous avions loué un SUV midsize. Pour faire le Shafer canyon over look de Canyonlands park ainsi que monument valley (mais là la piste est vraiment plus facile) il nous a été très utile, mais nous ne nous sommes pas aventurés plus loin, sur les pistes avec rochers (!). Cela dit avec déjà un midsize (nous avions un Hyundai Sante Fe), vous pouvez déjà faire quelque chose ! Bien sûr le loueur vous convaincra de louer plus gros, mais après ca dépend de votre budget et de vos envies d'escalade !
Pour un circuit Colorado/petit bout d'Utah et Arizona, nous avions loué un SUV midsize. Pour faire le Shafer canyon over look de Canyonlands park ainsi que monument valley (mais là la piste est vraiment plus facile) il nous a été très utile, mais nous ne nous sommes pas aventurés plus loin, sur les pistes avec rochers (!). Cela dit avec déjà un midsize (nous avions un Hyundai Sante Fe), vous pouvez déjà faire quelque chose ! Bien sûr le loueur vous convaincra de louer plus gros, mais après ca dépend de votre budget et de vos envies d'escalade !
Dream, live, share...
Les 4 roues motrices ne sont pas forcément la panacée:
- nécessaire sur piste difficile (comme autour de Moab): piste sableuse ou boueuse, en franchissement,
- superflu sur piste longue même rugueuse (comme celles du Nord)
- déconseillée sur le goudron (suite à une casse de transmission sur Nissan Armada, le dépanneur m'avait expliqué que, bien qu'ils soient munis d'une position 4X4 permanent, il ne faut pas l'utiliser car ils cassent tous).
Tout dépend vraiment du modèle de véhicule et de l'usage.
Merci à tous pour vos réponses.
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Bonjour Olivier. Je part du principe : qui peut le plus , peut le moins. Lorsque l'on décide de prendre les pistes et que l'on espère avoir un 4x4, il y a une multitude de sites sur internet pour voir ce qu'il faut faire ou ne pas faire, dans le sable, la boue etc.... Sur les 4x4 il y a souvent une position 2H, 4H, 4HL (maxi 3 à 5KMH) lorsque je passe en 4H je ne reste pas en tout automatique je met le sélecteur de boite en position S (selecte) et la tu passes les vitesses comme une voiture normale ce qui te permet de reprendre du régime plus facilement dans le sable etc ..... Même sur les route normales dans les descentes combien de fois tu vois les stops des voitures s'allumer pendant toute la descente. En position S tu disposes de frein moteur. Bonne journée. Groslap1.
- déconseillée sur le goudron (suite à une casse de transmission sur Nissan Armada, le dépanneur m'avait expliqué que, bien qu'ils soient munis d'une position 4X4 permanent, il ne faut pas l'utiliser car ils cassent tous).
Petite erreur de terminologie ou d'interprètation 😉
Un 4x4 permanent est par définition toujours en 4 roues motrices , sans possibilité de revenir 2 RM , c'est le cas par exemple des Land Rover Defender ou Toyota HDJ 80 ou 100 , pour lesquels il n'y a aucun problème à rouler sur le goudron .
Ce n'est pas le cas du Nissan Armada qui , comme de nombreux SUV est un 4x2 avec une position 4x4"enclenchable" , et effectivement dans ce cas il peut y avoir des restrictions quand à l'utilisation de la position 4X4 sur le goudron , il est important de toujours bien consulter les notices d'utilisations .😉
Petite erreur de terminologie ou d'interprètation 😉
Un 4x4 permanent est par définition toujours en 4 roues motrices , sans possibilité de revenir 2 RM , c'est le cas par exemple des Land Rover Defender ou Toyota HDJ 80 ou 100 , pour lesquels il n'y a aucun problème à rouler sur le goudron .
Ce n'est pas le cas du Nissan Armada qui , comme de nombreux SUV est un 4x2 avec une position 4x4"enclenchable" , et effectivement dans ce cas il peut y avoir des restrictions quand à l'utilisation de la position 4X4 sur le goudron , il est important de toujours bien consulter les notices d'utilisations .😉
Si j'ai fait ce commentaire sur le Nissan Armada (alias Pathfinder), c'est précisément parce que la notice vous dit que (en théorie) vous pouvez conserver la position 4x4 sur goudron en permanence sans autre inconvénient qu'une légère surconsommation, or (en pratique) ce n'est pas vrai et ça finit par casser.
Je ne parle pas des positions courtes ou avec blocage des différentiels bien sûr, mais de la position 4x4 routière. Elle s'appelle AUTO sur ce modèle, c'est la première position proposée par le selecteur. Après la casse, le dépanneur qui m'a livré mon Armada de remplacement m'a dit : "Reglez la sur 2WD, ca vaut mieux, on a des casses sans arrêt."
Qui peut le plus ne peut pas toujours le moins.
Interrogez les gens qui sillonnent les routes du Grand Nord et vous constaterez qu'ils roulent tous en 2 roues motrices par beau temps.
Bonjour
Comme tu le dis, le probleme n'est pas d'avoir un 4X4 permanent ou non, MAIS celui du blocage du differentiel central. (voire même pour les engins de franchissement le blocage des differentiels AR et avant).
Le cas que tu cite est celui des vrais 4X4, sur lequel on enclenche le pont avant en le bloquant.
Car pour complexifier encore le probleme, il y a des SUV qui roulent en 4X2 lorsque le terrain n'impose rien et qui passent en 4X4 automatiquement, ou à la demande du conducteur.
J'ai eu des CHEVY TAHOE ou FORD EXPEDITION, ou il existe une position4X2, une 4X4 auto, utilisable sur route, et une 4X 4 differentiel central bloqué, donc non utilisable sur route.
Comme tu le dis, le probleme n'est pas d'avoir un 4X4 permanent ou non, MAIS celui du blocage du differentiel central. (voire même pour les engins de franchissement le blocage des differentiels AR et avant).
Le cas que tu cite est celui des vrais 4X4, sur lequel on enclenche le pont avant en le bloquant.
Car pour complexifier encore le probleme, il y a des SUV qui roulent en 4X2 lorsque le terrain n'impose rien et qui passent en 4X4 automatiquement, ou à la demande du conducteur.
J'ai eu des CHEVY TAHOE ou FORD EXPEDITION, ou il existe une position4X2, une 4X4 auto, utilisable sur route, et une 4X 4 differentiel central bloqué, donc non utilisable sur route.
C'est exactement le cas du Nissan Armada qui a cassé en position AUTO. C'est peut -être un défaut propre à ce modèle.
Mais j'ai retenu la leçon, pas de position 4x4 sans reel besoin. L'année suivante nous avons fait la Dempster Highway (1500km pour l'aller-retour) en Chevy Tahoe et en 2 roues motrices, à l'exception de quelques kms boueux et glissants.
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Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
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Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
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Still working on the program.
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Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!









