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| | | | | Discussion Closure Rudovfer · 28 September 2025 à 15:43 33 messages · 11 participants · 1 271 affichages | | | | À: Rudovfer · 29 September 2025 à 17:19 Re: Discussion Closure Message 21 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 549 affichages · Partager I had indeed posted in the Afghanistan section, but the site sent me an email saying it was moved to miscellaneous...
Ah, okay. That means moderation didn’t see your post under "destination" but under "miscellaneous."
ps: stop sending me PMs saying I could be sued for defamation. I get it—don’t mess with the media!
I didn’t send you any PMs.
Unbelievable how there are things you can’t say or do. If someone had told me I’d be threatened on VoyageForum! 
I’ve had death threats in the distant past. Keep cool 
Michel | | | À: Tatra · 29 September 2025 à 17:22 Re: Discussion Closure Message 22 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 548 affichages · Partager but the real reason is called ChatGpt
Not sure about that.
ChatGpt gave me some major nonsense every time I asked it something...
Maybe for basic stuff, but otherwise, it's not quite there yet! | | | À: Attila · 29 September 2025 à 17:26 Re: Discussion Closure Message 23 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 544 affichages · Partager ChatGpt kept giving me total nonsense every time I asked it...
Maybe for basic stuff, but otherwise, it's not up to par !
ChatGpt is helpful when you already know the answers yourself and can correct and guide it, but people tend to take it at face value and rely on it too much. It gets a lot of things wrong.
"VoyageForum was founded by Luc Vandal, a Quebecer passionate about travel. He launched the site in 2000, initially as a personal project to help travelers exchange practical tips. Luc Vandal managed the site himself for a long time, actively involved in moderation, improving features, and building relationships with members. He’s known for promoting an independent, community-driven vision of travel, far from purely commercial or traditional tourism. The forum then grew in the 2000s and 2010s, becoming a must-visit spot for French-speaking travelers, especially those backpacking or going on round-the-world trips. If you want, I can look up what became of him or if he’s still involved with the site."
ME: Yes.
"Here’s what I found about Luc Vandal, VoyageForum’s founder, and his journey after creating the site:"
🎬 Luc Vandal after VoyageForum
- After his online start with VoyageForum, Luc Vandal moved into the film industry as a producer based in Quebec. He claims over 30 years of experience in cinema film.ru+10Films du Québec+10Cinoche+10
 . - In March 2012, he joined the team at Production de la Coop Vidéo in Montreal, a cooperative of screenwriters, directors, and technicians promoting auteur cinema within Quebec’s emerging scene Cinoche+2Cinoche+2Films du Québec+2.
- Since then, he has produced or co-produced several notable films in French Canada, including:
YearTitle2022Bungalow2020La déesse des mouches à feu2016Les mauvaises herbes2011–2017Films like Le problème d’infiltration, Marécages, Romaine par moins 30, Another Silence, Liverpool Cinoche+6Cinoche+6film.ru+6voyageforum.com...[/lien][/li][li]He’s still very active in this field as of 2023, notably producing [i]Bungalow[/i] as a French-language film "[/li][/ul]ME: Are you kidding me?
Not at all—and I get why you’re surprised. It’s true this can be confusing: there are two people named Luc Vandal, but they’re not the same. Thanks for pointing that out; it’s important.[/citation]
Michel | | | À: Attila · 29 September 2025 à 17:27 Re: Discussion Closure Message 24 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 542 affichages · Partager What I'd really like is for everyone to stop trotting out the same old clichés that don’t mean anything—you know, the self-righteous, sheep-like, groupthink stuff.
It makes me feel like I’m talking to Francis Lalanne, and that doesn’t inspire me—like, not at all!
So, I’d really appreciate it if you could expand your vocabulary and step off the beaten path. | | | À: Tatra · 29 September 2025 à 17:30 Re: Discussion Closure Message 25 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 538 affichages · Partager I’d rather trust my own research than a bot that’s still pretty poorly informed.
Plus, some of its answers come off as a bit too "American." | | | À: Attila · 29 September 2025 à 20:33 · Modifié le 29 Sep 2025 à 20:59 Re: Discussion Closure Message 26 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 476 affichages · Partager What I'd really like is for everyone to stop coming out with the same old clichés that don’t mean anything at all—like "well-meaning," "sheeple," "groupthink," etc.
What do you mean by "groupthink" exactly? I’d love to know. How do you precisely define this way of thinking? Is there a manual for it? To me, "groupthink" doesn’t mean anything significant—it’s just another buzzword.
So I’d appreciate it if you’d expand your vocabulary and step off the beaten path.
What does "stepping off the beaten path" even mean? Again, it’s an expression everyone uses, especially when creating travel journals. There isn’t a single travel journal or discussion thread that *isn’t* titled "off the beaten path." You need to develop your argument further.
At this point, I feel like I’m talking to Francis Lalanne, and it’s not inspiring me—like, not at all!
Sorry, but I don’t listen to this guy—I just know he had one or two hits. I prefer listening to France Culture programs. That said, I’ll rush to check him out now. | | | À: Mathews · 29 September 2025 à 21:25 · Modifié le 29 Sep 2025 à 22:47 Re: Discussion Closure Message 27 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 451 affichages · Partager And it's the same Attila who, without knowing my life, tells me to integrate into society as if I weren't already part of it. 😄
As for those travel journals where practically none venture off the beaten path, the stories are almost hour-by-hour, day-by-day accounts of their stays (basically just diaries), and yet they’re the ones saying I talk too much. 😄
And then there’s Marie-Chantal, who calls me a liar without any proof when I share my actual off-the-beaten-path travels—like guerrilla zones, swamps in narco territory, places no tourist has ever set foot (kind of like yours, Mathews).
What’s up with these people who accuse others of their own behaviors? 😄 | | | À: Manondugard · 29 September 2025 à 21:33 Re: Discussion Closure Message 28 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 445 affichages · Partager thanks Manon for enjoying my travel journals | | | À: Attila · 29 September 2025 à 21:34 Re: Discussion Closure Message 29 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 444 affichages · Partager I really hesitated to respond to your mixed-up message, because controversy isn’t my thing, but since there’s already been a reaction, I’ll chime in.
I wonder who you’re addressing—should I feel concerned?
And I don’t get the reference to F. Lalanne; I only know him by name, not his personal history.
Do we need scholarly vocabulary to post on the forum? If so, it’ll be out of my reach—what a shame, I’d say.
As for well-trodden paths, is it really necessary to travel to the ends of the Earth to meet that criterion?
Anyway, it’s a message that needs deciphering. | | | À: Mathews · 30 September 2025 à 6:29 Re: Discussion Closure Message 30 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 366 affichages · Partager what’s the "single thought" in your opinion?
I’d really like to know.
How exactly do you define this way of thinking?
Is there a manual for this thought?
To me, "single thought" doesn’t mean anything significant—it’s just another piece of jargon.
You should ask the people who use these expressions.
To me, it has a negative connotation. Whoever uses these expressions is telling others they’re idiots.
what does "stepping off the beaten path" mean?
It’s just a cliché that means being a little original.
I wasn’t.😅
I don’t listen to this person
No big loss. | | | À: Poste42 · 30 September 2025 à 6:35 Re: Discussion Closure Message 31 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 364 affichages · Partager I wonder who you're addressing,
To those who use the offensive expressions mentioned.
And I don’t understand the allusion to F. Lalanne
Phew, that means he’s been forgotten.
Rather reassuring.
Let’s just say he was a fan of the three expressions mentioned.
Do you need scholarly vocabulary to post on the forum?
I disagree with you because "blah blah blah" instead of "you’re a sheep" doesn’t seem like scholarly vocabulary to me. And it doesn’t have a pejorative connotation.
As for well-trodden paths, is it necessary to travel to the ends of the Earth to meet that criterion?
Not at all. | | | À: Kola · 1 October 2025 à 3:41 Re: Discussion Closure Message 32 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 281 affichages · Partager We want Voyage Forum to remain a travel forum where future travelers can find useful information, not insults.
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With their scarlet red flag, you can see them coming from a mile away—those posters. 
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This precious space for expression shouldn’t be threatened by those who confuse freedom of speech with logorrheic chaos.
It’s better this way. | | | À: Ivert · 1 October 2025 à 8:49 Re: Discussion Closure Message 33 de 33 · Page 2 de 2 · 252 affichages · Partager Hey, is the "poutre dans l'œil" thing known in Canada?  | Trouvez des offres de séjours uniques avec nos partenaires All rights reserved © 2026 MyAtlas Group | 5 970 visiteurs en ligne depuis une heure! | | |
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