Balades dans Fes?
by Meyssac
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je pense me rendre à Fes en juin 2011, et je cherche à me procurer les itineraires des six balades thematiques dans la Medina.
Quelqu'un(e) peut-il me renseigner?
Merci
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Salut .Exelente idée que de vouloir bien visiter Fes . cette medina est une des plus ancienne du monde arabe elle date du XII siecle .Tu peux la visiter seul mais tu es certain de louper beaucoup de choses .je la connaie par coeur j'y ai vecu 18 mois consecutif .Si ton buget le permet (cout environ 15a20euros= 200dh )fait toi accompagner par un guide officiel . Surtout n'oublie pas l'appareil photo!!!! bon futur voyage .André
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merci
Mon budget me permettra de prendre un guide officiel. mais ne sera-t-il pas tenté de nous enmener chez ses amis pour y faire du commerce?!!!😕 Faut-il prendre le guide recommandè par le riad ?( non encore choisi).
Il n'y a jamais de problemes , il n'y a que des solutions et quand il n'y a pas de solutions c'est qu'il n'y pas de problemes !
la medina de fes date du 9 eme siecle, en 2008 fes a feté ses 1200 ans
fondée par les idrissides -des arabes- elle a eté le centre spirituel de l'afrique du nord et subsaharienne, maintes fois capitale imperiale jusqau debut du siecle dernier (meme sous les merinides berberes) avant que rabat ne devienne la capitale du maroc.
fondée par les idrissides -des arabes- elle a eté le centre spirituel de l'afrique du nord et subsaharienne, maintes fois capitale imperiale jusqau debut du siecle dernier (meme sous les merinides berberes) avant que rabat ne devienne la capitale du maroc.
Salut .Si c'est un guide officiel (pas de raport avec les marchands)
Bonjour,
La médina de Fès est magnifique. Ces itinéraires balisés de couleurs différentes sont très bien faits et sillonnent les ruelles les plus intéressantes à voir, par thèmes.
Vous trouverez le plan global affiché à toutes les entrées pricipales, puis ensuite vous suivrez l'itinéraire que vous souhaitez.
Il existe un petit livret qui les détaille, en vente partout : hotel, riads, office de tourisme, mais même sans l'avoir, il vous suffit de suivre les panneaux de la couleur choisie.
http://www.visit-fez.com/visitfezfiles_fr/visites.php
La médina de Fès est magnifique. Ces itinéraires balisés de couleurs différentes sont très bien faits et sillonnent les ruelles les plus intéressantes à voir, par thèmes.
Vous trouverez le plan global affiché à toutes les entrées pricipales, puis ensuite vous suivrez l'itinéraire que vous souhaitez.
Il existe un petit livret qui les détaille, en vente partout : hotel, riads, office de tourisme, mais même sans l'avoir, il vous suffit de suivre les panneaux de la couleur choisie.
http://www.visit-fez.com/visitfezfiles_fr/visites.php
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bonjour
merci pour ta reponse et pour le lien sur Fes🙂
Penses-tu comme Lamarensin que je risque de rater beaucoup de choses😕 si je n'utilise que ces petits livrets ?
Il n'y a jamais de problemes , il n'y a que des solutions et quand il n'y a pas de solutions c'est qu'il n'y pas de problemes !
Bonjour,
Pour y avoir habité quelque temps, fes doit se visiter et se découvrir tout le temps! la ville garde son aspect authentique, c'est la seule, et de loin, vrai médina, avec ses habitants d'origine, de grand travaux ont été entrepris ces dernières années sur toute la surface de la ville, les commerçants se structurent depuis trois ans et les boutiques n'arrêtent pas de changer de main! c'est une ville en pleinne evolution! il serai beaucoup plus judicieux de tracer ton propre itinéraire, et revenir raconter sur ce forum tes découvertes, car je suis sûr que tu vas revenir avec du nouveau, même pour ceux qui visitent cette ville tout le temps!😎
ce plan est vendu dans la pluspart des boutiques journaux - je l'ai acheté (debut octobre) en face de l'hotel batha pas loin de la porte Boujloud. 100 DH.
il est très bien fait. les balisages sont faciles à suivre;
il y a aussi un guide "fes de bab en bab" qui m'ont aidé à faire des ballades. vendu à la fnac.
sinon, pas besoin de guide (sauf papier) pour découvrie la medina.... se laisser porter, tu arriveras toujours qq part, se laisser perdre aussi et sortir des qq chemins plein de touristes.
quelle ville, je l'adore !
bonne ballade fassie !


il est très bien fait. les balisages sont faciles à suivre;
il y a aussi un guide "fes de bab en bab" qui m'ont aidé à faire des ballades. vendu à la fnac.
sinon, pas besoin de guide (sauf papier) pour découvrie la medina.... se laisser porter, tu arriveras toujours qq part, se laisser perdre aussi et sortir des qq chemins plein de touristes.
quelle ville, je l'adore !
bonne ballade fassie !


Bonjour, je me permets de m'immiscer sur votre forum pour vous poser une question.
Est-ce qu'il est judicieux d'y partir au mois de décembre ou alors il y fait trop froid?
Merci
Merci
il fait froid de novembre a avril, pluie a volonté
juillet aout la medina est bondée avec les marocains qui visitent cette ville
le reste du temps il fait bon genre 27 deugrés.
juillet aout la medina est bondée avec les marocains qui visitent cette ville
le reste du temps il fait bon genre 27 deugrés.
Désolé de ma question qui peut paraitre bête mais "froid comment???" 🙂
Il pleut vraiment beaucoup à cette pèriode dans ce coin?
Merci
Il pleut vraiment beaucoup à cette pèriode dans ce coin?
Merci
genre 3 deugrés, prevoir anorak
eh oui il pleut souvent et a 70 km on peut skier
eh oui il pleut souvent et a 70 km on peut skier
j'ai suivi les flechages : il faut faire attention en regardant bien à chaque panneau si on est dans la bonne direction, mais je n'ai eu aucun souci.
il y a un grand plan de vendu avec le livret des circuits.
mais ce n'est pas interdit d'avoir un autre document. j'ai cité "fes de bab en bab", avec de jolies balades à la clef, et le routard aussi. le michelin "voyager pratique - fes et meknes" est bien aussi.
a mon epoque ni fleche ni guide papier:
juste l'instinc et une medina si enigmatique renfermant tant de merveilles qu'une vie ne suffirait pas a la decouvrir entierement.
j'aai beaucoup aime la Medina de Fes. j'ai essaye d'etre autonome pour la visiter, mais c'etait cause perdue. j'ai donc pris un guide (qui je l'avoue n'etais pas officiel), mais je suis contente d'etre tombe sur lui, car il nous a fait visiter les merveilles de Fes. On plus pour le payer ca a ete negociable. mais a la fin du tour (qui a pris presque toute la journee, je lui ai donne son plein tarif demande car j'ai ete tres satisfaite. Des fois il faut suivre son instinct. je n'ai pas ete decue du tout.
En arrivant a Fes, nous ne trouvions pas notre Riad. Nous avions engage un petit gamin de la rue qui connaissait les lieux pour nous guider vers notre riad. un vrai plaisir de l'avoir rencontre. Mais ceci dit, ce n'est pas tout le monde qui tombent sur des gens pareils.
Prenez votre temps a fes, car elle est sublime pour plus que 2 jours.
Bon Voyage!
Prenez votre temps a fes, car elle est sublime pour plus que 2 jours.
Bon Voyage!
Bonjour,
Cité plus haut, le livre "Fes de bab en bab" est écrit par un fassi, Hammad Berrada, complètement amoureux de sa ville. On le trouve effectivement à la fnac, ou sur internet, ou... dans une librairie de la ville moderne de Fes. C'est là que je l'avais déniché, pour à peine quelques dirhams de plus que le guide à 100 dh, et j'ai trouvé nettement plus intéressant, plus riche et plus beau. Je me suis régalée avec plus d'une fois... et pas perdue.
un aperçu : (clic! dans vignettes pour agrandir)

et, pour vous faire une idée, je vous invite à partager, si vous le souhaitez, quelques-uns de mes vagabondages à Fes : ICI
Bonne préparation
Cité plus haut, le livre "Fes de bab en bab" est écrit par un fassi, Hammad Berrada, complètement amoureux de sa ville. On le trouve effectivement à la fnac, ou sur internet, ou... dans une librairie de la ville moderne de Fes. C'est là que je l'avais déniché, pour à peine quelques dirhams de plus que le guide à 100 dh, et j'ai trouvé nettement plus intéressant, plus riche et plus beau. Je me suis régalée avec plus d'une fois... et pas perdue.
un aperçu : (clic! dans vignettes pour agrandir)

et, pour vous faire une idée, je vous invite à partager, si vous le souhaitez, quelques-uns de mes vagabondages à Fes : ICI
Bonne préparation
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bonjour
Merci pour toutes ces precisions et pour le lien vers tes promenades dans Fes.
Je pense qu'en juin la meteo sera favorable et que je tenterais la visite de Fes sans guide ( homme) en suivant les indications du guide "Fes de Bab en Bab", et si je trouve cela trop galere, je demanderais un guide officiel au riad.
bonne journee à tous
Il n'y a jamais de problemes , il n'y a que des solutions et quand il n'y a pas de solutions c'est qu'il n'y pas de problemes !
🙂 franchement tu vas voire par toi-même, sans guide, aucun problème. ça fait trois fois que j'y vais, avec à chaque fois le même plaisir.
ça m'est arrivé aussi de demander à des gamins de me faire retrouver tel ou tel endroit, et de leur donner qq DH pour ce service. (ils sont sympas, et connaissent les raccourcis) mais des guides, non !
pas loin des tanneries, on est abordé par des "rabatteurs" pour avoir accès aux terrasses, bon, y'a pas trop le choix ! trois visites : 3 terrasses différentes, mais le même "spectacle". on achète ou non, dans les boutiques ensuite, y'a pas de soucis si on achète pas. je ne donne rien aux rabatteurs.
un plan et quelques explications dessus pour ne pas rater certains quartiers sont nécessaires, c'est tout.
j'adore cette ville.
pas loin des tanneries, on est abordé par des "rabatteurs" pour avoir accès aux terrasses, bon, y'a pas trop le choix ! trois visites : 3 terrasses différentes, mais le même "spectacle". on achète ou non, dans les boutiques ensuite, y'a pas de soucis si on achète pas. je ne donne rien aux rabatteurs.
un plan et quelques explications dessus pour ne pas rater certains quartiers sont nécessaires, c'est tout.
j'adore cette ville.
* ****demander à des gamins de me faire retrouver tel ou tel endroit, et de leur donner qq DH pour ce service.*****
ben voyons.....!!!!!!! encourager l'absentéisme scolaire, et renouveler les meutes de faux guides ...!! surtout que les gamins ne connaissent rien et t'envoient en général n'importe ou!!🙁🙁🙁
ben voyons.....!!!!!!! encourager l'absentéisme scolaire, et renouveler les meutes de faux guides ...!! surtout que les gamins ne connaissent rien et t'envoient en général n'importe ou!!🙁🙁🙁
comme partout les gamins ont des horaires de classe et des jours de congé !
et puis tu me casses les pieds avec tes éternelles leçons ! tu sais tout, tu vois tout, tu juges, tu fais la morale au monde entier, tu nous em....😕
et puis tu me casses les pieds avec tes éternelles leçons ! tu sais tout, tu vois tout, tu juges, tu fais la morale au monde entier, tu nous em....😕
bonjour.
T"as bien fait de penser à visiter Fes, vraiment c'est parmit les ville rare ou vous trouverez tous: l'art, la music et surtout tu viendras en Juin oû on celebre la music sacrée si vous avez une idée mais je te conseille d'être prudent du riad ou vous allez s'installer toi et ta famille de ne commerciale pas de vous soit avec le guide soit avec les moyens de transport. je peux vous aider si vous voulez quand vous seriez là.
à bientôt
T"as bien fait de penser à visiter Fes, vraiment c'est parmit les ville rare ou vous trouverez tous: l'art, la music et surtout tu viendras en Juin oû on celebre la music sacrée si vous avez une idée mais je te conseille d'être prudent du riad ou vous allez s'installer toi et ta famille de ne commerciale pas de vous soit avec le guide soit avec les moyens de transport. je peux vous aider si vous voulez quand vous seriez là.
à bientôt
"""tu me casses les pieds avec tes éternelles leçons """
je ne fais que dénoncer des comportements nuisibles, Un japonais donnera t'il des euros à un parisien qui le remettra dans le droit chemin ?? encourager les gosses à ne pas aller à l'école parce que grace à des des bidochons ils gagneront plus que leurs parents est inadmissible !!
je ne fais que dénoncer des comportements nuisibles, Un japonais donnera t'il des euros à un parisien qui le remettra dans le droit chemin ?? encourager les gosses à ne pas aller à l'école parce que grace à des des bidochons ils gagneront plus que leurs parents est inadmissible !!
Bonjour tout le monde!
Pour vous tenir au courant je suis parti au Maroc du 26 decembre 2010 jusqu'au 9 janvier 2011 et pour répondre a la question que je me posais dans ce forum je vous confirme que mes amis et moi n'avons pas eu froid du tout SAUF LA NUIT!!!! Particulièrement à Chefchaouen (qui est au nord du Maroc), un peu moins à Fès et encore moins à Marrakech! Nous n'avons pas eu un instant froid à Essaouira où il faisait très bon de jour comme de nuit! Quant à la pluie il me semble que nous avons eu qu'une seule petite averse! Peut-être avons nous été chanceux mais voilà ce qu'il en ai. Nous avons passé un séjour absolument parfait et je recommande le Maroc à tout le monde.
Pour vous tenir au courant je suis parti au Maroc du 26 decembre 2010 jusqu'au 9 janvier 2011 et pour répondre a la question que je me posais dans ce forum je vous confirme que mes amis et moi n'avons pas eu froid du tout SAUF LA NUIT!!!! Particulièrement à Chefchaouen (qui est au nord du Maroc), un peu moins à Fès et encore moins à Marrakech! Nous n'avons pas eu un instant froid à Essaouira où il faisait très bon de jour comme de nuit! Quant à la pluie il me semble que nous avons eu qu'une seule petite averse! Peut-être avons nous été chanceux mais voilà ce qu'il en ai. Nous avons passé un séjour absolument parfait et je recommande le Maroc à tout le monde.
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!


