Cette dépêche fait froid dans le dos. Mais jusqu'où ira-t-on??? 🙁
WASHINGTON (AP) – Une catastrophe aérienne de première importance vient probablement d’être évitée de justesse aux Etats-Unis grâce à l’intervention du FBI qui s’intéressait depuis plusieurs mois aux agissements d’un groupe soupçonné d’être affilié à la nébuleuse terroriste d’Al Qaida. Trois de ces hommes, originaires d’Egypte et du Koweit, ont été appréhendés au moment où ils s’apprêtaient à embarquer à bord du vol 455 d’American Airlines reliant Miami à Houston. Le porte parole du FBI, M. Vincent Forrow, a indiqué lors d’une conférence de presse tenue dans la soirée à Washington que ces trois terroristes avaient pendant des mois suivi des cours d’arts martiaux dans un club sportif californien – qu’il a pour le moment refusé de nommer – afin d’apprendre à tuer à mains nues. D’après les premiers éléments de l’enquête, il semblerait que ces trois hommes avaient prévu de neutraliser tous le personnel navigant et quelques passagers avant de défoncer la porte du cockpit à mains nues, ce que leur savoir-faire acquis en Californie leur aurait apparemment permis de faire, puis de tuer les membres d’équipage et enfin de faire plonger l’appareil vers le sol en déréglant tous les systèmes de navigation.
Après avoir félicité les enquêteurs ayant pu empêcher ce drame, M. Vincent Forrow a indiqué que si cette arrestation marquait une victoire importante contre le terrorisme, de gros poissons couraient toujours dans la nature et restaient toujours à identifier et appréhender.
Immédiatement après cette conférence de presse, une vingtaine de sénateurs ont exigé que des mesures radicales soient prises à l’encontre de toute personne ayant suivi des cours d’arts martiaux et désireuse de prendre l’avion. Pour la première fois dans l’histoire des détournements d’avion, des pirates de l’air auraient en effet été capables de prendre le contrôle d’un appareil et de le détruire sans l’aide d’aucun article dangereux emporté avec eux, rendant de fait tout contrôle de sécurité dans les aéroports inopérant.
Le texte qui devrait rapidement être adopté par le Congrès prévoira la tenue d’un fichier national recensant toute personne ayant suivi des cours d’arts martiaux sur le territoire américain. Tous les clubs sportifs du pays auront l’obligation de fournir en temps réel une liste de leurs membres, nouveaux ou anciens. Il est vraisemblable que le texte prévoie également la tenue d’une liste étendue à tous les clubs d’arts martiaux hors des Etats-Unis. Les individus ainsi recensés ne seront pas interdits de vol mais devront voyager menottés afin de ne pas représenter un danger pour l’appareil et ses passagers. Tandis que plusieurs associations américaines se sont émues de ce qu’elles considèrent comme une atteinte intolérable aux libertés fondamentales, trois compagnies aériennes ont déjà protesté contre une telle mesure qui devrait entraîner une baisse de leur fréquentation, à moins que le gouvernement fédéral n’offre une indemnité aux passagers ainsi contraints de voler dans des conditions très inconfortables.
Plusieurs gouvernements européens se sont déclarés choqués et émus par la catastrophe qui a failli s’abattre sur les Etats-Unis et ont annoncé dans la foulée envisager d’adopter des mesures similaires. Michelle Alliot-Marie, Ministre de l’Intérieur, a pour sa part indiqué étudier avec la plus grande attention les possibilités de constituer des fichiers de pratiquants d’arts martiaux afin de les interdire de vol sur le territoire français ou, comme en Amérique, de neutraliser leur capacité de nuisance une fois à bord de l’avion.
YANGGUIZI
bonjour
Menotter les MAINS NUES d'un passager payant ayant subi le controle de securité à l'aeroport..stricte....
sous pretexte qu'il s"est adonné aux arts martiaux...ici ou là ....lui établir un fichier....ou est ce qu'on va...???!!!
La securisation du trafic aérien tpmberait elle sous le coup de la psychose et de la chasse aux sorcieres ..???!
Alors que des investissements colossaux ont ete entrepris dans les aeroports et meme à bord des avions.avec agents de securité aguerris....afin de parer à toute eventualité de nuire aux passagers...
Interdire les relations intimes aux couples à bord des vols first class des passagers par la cie SQ. en A380
SINGAPOUR SYDNEY ...
à force de verrouiller et de cadenasser ...on finit par exiger n'importe quoi ...avec des infos polluantes...
njm
....................Les individus ainsi recensés ne seront pas interdits de vol mais devront voyager menottés afin de ne pas représenter un danger pour l’appareil et ses passagers..................................
Ce sont des mesurettes ridicules et inoperantes car tout pratiquant d arts martiaux digne de ce nom peut utiliser ses pieds et sa tete comme armes de destruction massive..............!!!
Il faut donc leur egalement leur lier les pieds et leur faire porter un casque en mousseline......................!!!
MAMINA64
salut
meme si ce sont des farces attrape ...ou poisson d'avril....
ces reflexions et ces reactions de nos amis forumistes etaient judicieuses....
Un MONDE LIBRE trompe l'oeil ou on fiche des passagers ...pour un rien...ou on transgresse et agresse
l'intimité des uns en pechant dans les eaux troubles ...à la recherche de chimeres...
meme la securite obeit à l'ethique....
cela ne nous etonne pas quand des presidentiables US passent aussi au moulinet ....fichiers de leurs
passeports sont scannes....quelle decadence....quelle scandale....
njm
pratiquant moi meme le tae kwon do, il est evident que je suis d'une dangerosité exceptionnelle 🏴☠️, j'exige des menottes ... et un fouet pour mettre avec mes bas résille non mais qu'on puisse enfin s'amuser un peu en avion !😇
salut ma parenté , à vous tous , le cœur bon , j'offre ma main pour la marier avec la votre
et faut faire gaffe : j'ai une arme redoutable : des graines de baobab !!😏😉
Paraît que ça pousse vachement vite et facilement ces p'tites choses! Alors, sur un vol long courrier🏴☠️
Bon, c'était juste histoire de passer un clin d'oeil; l'histoire de Yangguizi m'a fait rire... jaune (mais ça, c'est normal dira-t-on!).
Pour le reste, non, je ne les ai pas encore plantées (les graines de baobab!). Je n'en ai pas beaucoup, mais suis prête à t'en donner 2 ou 3. Je t'envoie un MP, mais pas avant vendredi soir, faute de temps.
Il s'agissait évidemment d'un poisson, la plupart d'entre vous ont vu juste. Un poisson d'une moins bonne qualité que celui de 2007, année qui a vu plusieurs membres avaler mon histoire.
Rendez-vous donc en 2009. Ce qui serait bien, c'est que les fins limiers du forum, à qui on ne la fait pas, s'abstiennent de crier au poisson dans un an, pour laisser les autres tomber dans le panneau. 🙂
Et pour être bien sûr que... "les fins limiers du forum, à qui on ne la fait pas, s'abstiennent de crier au poisson dans un an, pour laisser les autres tomber dans le panneau"...
YANGGUIZI
salut
Vous admettez qu'il s'agit bien d'un poisson d'avril...Vous oubliez que vous avez cité des nationalités de pays
tels que L"EGYPTE berceau des civilisations ...et le KOWEIT perle du golfe...La mise en scene ne devrait pas
concourir au dénigrement...nous voulons que notre planete soit un havre de paix et de concorde....
malheureusement nous feignons de defendre les causes justes au TIBET...par ex ...instrumentalisant...
les J.OS de PEKIN....L'empire de L'OTAN s'etend de l'ATLANTIQUE à L'AFGHANISTAN avec un oeil sur MOSCOU,
DELHI et PEKIN...un autre oeil sur la BOMBE du PAKISTAN et les tentations nucleaires de TEHRAN...
LE tout enrobé au chocolat de la guerre contre la psychose de l'ombre et des chasses aux sorcieres
avec une médiatisation dirigée....
njm
Vous n'avez pas été la plus explicite, c'est vrai qu'il y a ici des chasseurs de poissons beaucoup plus voyants. 🙂
L'élevage de poissons se pratique très peu en Chine. Ceci dit, on lit dans la presse chinoise des histoires assez invraisemblables sur le Tibet en ce moment, peut-être s'agit-il de poissons d'Avril?
N'ayant pas vraiment trouvé de rubrique adaptée à ma demande, je la fais sur celle-ci. Ma question est: qui a des nouvelles de l'état de santé de ASSK? J'ai vu…
Le célèbre logiciel de navigation planétaire, GE pour ne pas le cité, vient de sortir des nouvelles images à très hautes résolutions, éparpillé sur toute la…
Pour ceux qui avaient suivi la rubrique Céline et Sarah prison Dominicaine, je tiens à vous informer qu'elles sont condamnées à 8 années de prison. que leur…
Interdiction de mendier couché, de s'asseoir à plus de trois sur un banc public ou encore de manger dans la rue: les maires italiens rivalisent d'imagination…
Nous venons de réserver un voyage à New-York en avril 2008 avec Nouvelles-Frontières... L'agence nous a proposé deux billets d'avion AR avec la British Airways…
Je me permet de partager cet article de blog qui, à mes yeux, pose un diagnostic d'une modernité absolue sur Hué qui n’est pas vue comme une relique mais comme une reine du style.
Many of us have noticed that bugs have been making it difficult to navigate the forum lately.
I’ll let Kate and Ticapi explain the issue:
I went to your profile to check out the Thailand travel journal, and when I clicked on it, it brought me back here again. All week, I’ve been dealing with bugs like this—it’s really discouraging from continuing on VF.🙁
I had the same thing happen, and multiple times. For me, it was Montagnard’s latest journal that kept coming up no matter which discussion I clicked on.
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)
A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity.
Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours:
For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route.
I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum!
Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
I just discovered a great show on Arte.
It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂
Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy.
They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report.
It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch!
It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story.
Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider.
But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube.
Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long.
Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter.
(I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport.
Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers.
I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right?
Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost?
Thanks for your help!
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15.
The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG.
In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam.
We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM.
So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG.
So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this?
Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt.
At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €.
Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊
Julien
🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening.
Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations?
Thanks,
Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar.
It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal?
It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland).
It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks...
There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal.
That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is.
The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai...
They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive.
Anyway...
I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood...
The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded.
The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call!
So, if you’re camping there, be careful...
Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.
