Nous avons prévu de faire un Safari en groupe avec des amis ayant tous 2 enfants (9 ans et +) en 2016.
Oui je sais, nous nous y prenons TRES à l'avance, mais vaut mieux trop tôt que trop tard :)
N'ayant jamais fait de safaris en Afrique, nous sommes novices en la matière :)
Nous nous sommes renseignés déjà dans quelques agences, sur internet et via des guides de voyage, mais avoir l'avis de personnes qui ont déjà fait ces voyages, c'est toujours très enrichissant.
Alors :
1/ Nous n'avons pas encore choisi la destination.
De ce que j'ai pu voir, à prestations équivalentes, le budget est différent en fonction de la destination. En gros du plus abordable au plus cher, ce serait : Kenya, Afrique du Sud, Tanzanie, Namibie, Botswana
Est-ce bien ça ?
2/ Nous avons un budget d'environ 3000€ par personne
Y a-t-il certaines des destinations citées plus haut qu'il faut d'ores et déjà oublier ?
Quelles seraient les destinations que vous nous recommanderiez pour un tel budget ?
3/ Nous devrions être 5 couples ... soit au total 20 personnes !!
Y a-t-il moyen d'avoir des tarifs de groupe pour un tel nombre ?
Voilà déjà pour les premières questions :)
Je continue mon exploration du forum pour glaner d'autres informations :)
En gros du plus abordable au plus cher, ce serait : Kenya, Afrique du Sud, Tanzanie, Namibie, Botswana
Est-ce bien ça ?
Vu que vous êtes 20, vos pouvez faire des économies d'échelle et obtenir des prix inférieurs à un groupe de 2 ou 4.
Ça peut jouer sur le classement...
Pour ceux qui recherchent un voyage avec rencontres animalières non guidé, le pays le plus économique et le plus facile (logistique) est l'Afrique du Sud.
Le plus cher avec la logistique la moins bonne : la Tanzanie .
En circuit guidé, je pense que les meilleurs tarifs sont à rechercher du côté du Kenya. Surtout en ce moment...
La Namibie est un peu plus chère que l'Afrique du Sud mais peut aussi se visiter individuellement sans grosses difficultés logistiques.
Étant donné notre méconnaissance de l'Afrique, nous partirions plutôt sur des visites guidées je pense.
Pour le Kenya, les prix sont-ils plus bas à cause d'enlèvements récents ?
Nous serions très intéressés en effet par le lac Nakuru et par le parc de Amboseli en plus de la réserve du Masai Mara.
Est-ce que ce sont des zones dangereuses ?
Ce qui me fait peur avec le Kenya également, c'est qu'il s'agit sans doute du pays dans lequel nous aurons également le plus de monde.
Avec les enfants, nous serons obligés de partir en période de vacances scolaires, probablement Aout ...
Pour la Tanzanie, c'est vrai que le cratère du Ngorongoro et les parcs du Tarangire et Serengeti me font particulièrement rêver, notamment après avoir vu quelques reportages magnifiques sur ces endroits.
Le Botswana-Zimbabwe offrirait la possibilité d'admirer les chutes Victoria, mais les prix m'ont l'air assez élevé !
L'Afrique du Sud est sans doute le pays le plus "calme" de la liste, mais n'est-ce pas trop aseptisé ?
nous partirions plutôt sur des visites guidées je pense.
L'Afrique du Sud n'a pas grand sens en visites guidées. C'est un pays qui se visite comme l'ouest américain ou encore l'australie. Je pense donc qu'il est préférable de choisir un pays plus "difficile" pour ce genre de circuit.
Pour le Kenya, les prix sont-ils plus bas à cause d'enlèvements récents ?
Le tourisme serait en chute donc je pense qu'un groupe de 20 personnes serait un groupe "intéressant" pour un TO .
Mais je ne sais pas si les conditions de sécurité sont réunies actuellement.
Le Botswana-Zimbabwe offrirait la possibilité d'admirer les chutes Victoria, mais les prix m'ont l'air assez élevé !
Il existe plusieurs sortes de circuits. Avec une version logement simple-sous la tente-, les tarifs sont plus doux. Le billet d'avion est en revanche plus onéreux qu'un billet vers le kenya ou la tanzanie.
Le mieux est peut être de demander des devis à des agences spécialisées. Sur ce forum et pour le Botswana, Namibie, de nombreux Vfistes recommandent les agences Tourmaline, Belafrica, Madiza et Namikala.
Pour le Kenya et la Tanzanie, tu devrais ouvrir un autre topic en demandant quelles agences locales sont conseillées.
mais n'est-ce pas trop aseptisé ?
Non. Ça dépend ce qu'on y fait et comment.
Un circuit en autocar double étage au Kruger est un non sens absolu alors qu'un circuit en voiture individuelle dans ce même parc regorge de surprises. 😛
De mon expérience, limitée (un seul safari au Botswana), le Botswana est plus cher que la Tanzanie, et c'est aussi ce que j'ai souvent lu et vu dans les tarifs des TO. La logistique en Tanzanie (où nous en sommes à 10 safaris) ne m'a jamais paru mauvaise, les pistes sont en bon état pour celles qui sont couramment parcourues par les touristes, les routes sont bien meilleures qu'au Kenya, les liaisons par avion entre les parcs existent souvent en vols réguliers, les distances à parcourir en cas de safari classique dans le nord sont plus réduites, dans le nord il y a un grand nombre et une large gamme d'hébergements (disons entre cher et très très cher, alors que dans le sud, c'est plutôt entre très cher et très très cher). Mais si vous vous décidez pour la Tanzanie, le Ngorongoro en août à 4 ou 5 voitures ne me semble pas un plan d'enfer pour être tranquille...
Pour le Kenya, il n'y a pas particulièrement de menaces d'enlèvements, plutôt un risque d'attentats liés au conflit en Somalie. Mais les risques sont surtout dans les villes, particulièrement Nairobi et la côte, et à un degré moindre dans les liaisons entre le sud du pays et le nord. Dans les parcs et réserves mêmes, le risque est très faible s'il n'est pas nul. Cela dit, un programme Amboseli, Masai Mara et Nakuru (Nakuru a moins d'intérêt qu'avant du fait de son niveau très haut, mais dans 2 ans cela sera peut-être de nouveau super) paraît peu risqué, surtout avec des campsites/camps/lodges bien à l'intérieur des parcs (mais c'est plus cher bien sûr que les camps en bordure extérieure).
Il y a moins de risques en Tanzanie qu'au Kenya, même si l'atmosphère à Dar-Es-Salam et Zanzibar est parfois agitée en période électorale et s'il y a déjà eu des attentats à Dar, cela remonte à loin.
L'Afrique du Sud, je ne connais pas, juste fait deux stop and go. Sans problème, bien sûr. Alors comme destination sûre ? Pas d'expérience, ce que l'on lit sur la violence semble concerner les villes, certaines villes, certaines parties de certaines villes, pour le reste il ne semble pas y avoir de souci dans les parties touristiques des parcs ?
Si tu as besoin de tuyaux (plus ou moins percés) sur les safaris photos en Tanzanie, voire au Kenya (6 safaris mais peu de parcs/réserves : Masai Mara, Nakuru, Amboseli, Bogoria, Samburu et aussi les lacs Naivasha et Baringo), je serais ravi d'essayer d'y répondre.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
PS : notre Hun a raison, voyager à 20, ça donne un sacré poids dans les négociations commerciales...
Kenya, Afrique du Sud, Tanzanie, Namibie, Botswana
La Namibie est, je pense (~ vraiment ) moins chère que la Tanzanie (je parle des voyages guidés, en passant par un TO).
Et perso, avec 10 enfants ( 😕 ) je choisirais la Namibie sans hésiter : Dunes les plus hautes du monde, désert, Kaokoland et les Himbas, Parc animalier très bien "achalandé" (Etosha), 2ième canyon le plus profond du monde (après Grand Canyon - USA), Lodges et/ou auberges très propres, sécurité OK, distances assez courtes et confortables entre chaque étape, et possibilité de finir aux Chutes Victoria, ce qui rend le voyage définitivement inoubliable... 🙂.
Je dirais, si c'est pour être sur de voir des guépards tu pourrais avoir le réflexe d'aller au Kenya, mais il y a le CCF à Otjiwarango en Namibie (et Etosha pour les lions), qui offre aussi de magnifiques paysages et des vacances relaxantes.
à suivre..
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Même pour l'AFS, si vous le sentez mieux avec un guide, prenez un guide. De nombreux guides peuvent se charger de groupes plus ou moins importants. Il n'y a ni honte ni problème.
A 20, il sera bon de réserver très en avance dans les NP et même pour les BB et autres, histoire de ne pas se trouver trop séparés les uns des autres.
Nous venons de nous adresser à un TO en Tanzanie, et ils nous proposent le parcours suivant :
Day 1 Kilimanjaro – Arusha - Lake Manyara
On arrival at Kilimanjaro Airport, clear Customs and Immigration formalities
Met and transfer to Arusha City
Lunch at an Arusha Restaurant
Afternoon commence drive to Lake Manyara
Dinner and overnight at Lake Manyara Serena Lodge L-DBB
Day 2 Lake Manyara - Serengeti
Breakfast
Morning game drive in Lake Manyara National Park
Early lunch at the Lodge
Afternoon drive to Seronera Area of Serengeti National Park
Dinner and overnight at Serengeti Serena Lodge L-DBB
Day 3 Serengeti
Full day of game drives in Seronera Area of Serengeti National Park
Lunch may be a picnic in the Park or a hot meal at the Lodge
All meals and overnight at Serengeti Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 4 Serengeti - Ngorongoro
Breakfast
Game viewing en route, drive to Ngorongoro Conservation Area via Olduvai Gorge
Remainder of the day at leisure; optional activities are available (at extra costs)
Lunch, dinner and overnight at Ngorongoro Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 5 Ngorongoro
Breakfast
Today, descend the Ngorongoro Crater for a Crater Tour, with picnic lunch
Return to the Lodge
Dinner and overnight at Ngorongoro Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 6 Ngorongoro - Tarangire
Breakfast
Morning drive to Tarangire National Park
Afternoon game drive in Tarangire National Park
Dinner and overnight at Tarangire Sopa Lodge LDBB
Day 7 Tarangire - Arusha – Kilimanjaro & Depart
Breakfast
Game viewing en route out of Tarangire National Park, morning drive back to Arusha
Lunch at an Arusha Restaurant
Later transfer to Kilimanjaro Airport for your international departure flight
L-
Cela vous paraît-il cohérent par rapport aux points les plus intéressants à visiter ?
@ Blesl :
Merci pour ton long post et tous les détails qui me sont très utiles, moi qui découvre cette partie de l'Afrique (J'ai vécu très longtemps à Abidjan étant petit, mais je n'ai jamais eu l'occasion de faire un safari dans les pays cités !)
Tu indiques que le Ngorongoro en Août à 5 voiture n'est pas un plan d'enfer ... pour quelle raison ? J'ai peur que de toute façon, en nous baladant à 5 voitures, on ne passe jamais inaperçus 😏 C'est le revers de la médaille de voyager en groupe ... nous pourrons en effet négocier les prix, mais nous serons toujours 5 4x4 groupés ... A moins que les guides nous fassent suivre des parcours différents une fois dans le parc ... est-ce possible ?
@Francky :
Oui cela était censé inclure l'avion😕 soit quand même un budget de 12 000 € par famille.
Et nous espérons pouvoir négocier vu le nombre de participants.
Ca te semble bien trop bas comme budget ?
Merci pour les infos sur la Namibie ... nous allons nous y pencher également ... les lieux que tu cites m'ont en effet l'air magnifique.
@ Michel :
Merci pour les conseils sur l'AFS.
Réserver à 20 demande en effet de s'y prendre bien à l'avance ... raison pour laquelle nous commençons à prospecter dès maintenant pour un voyage en 2016 😏
@ tous :
Etant donné que nous devons partir en vacances scolaires compatibles avec différentes zones en France, nous n'avons que l'été, les vacances de la Toussaint et éventuellement les vacances de Noël mais qui doivent être beaucoup plus chères, non ? Quelle période conseilleriez vous ?
Ton voyage ne ferait "que" 7 jours ?
Le parcours proposé en Tanzanie semble correct, sauf que ça fait "beaucoup" de parcs en peu de temps.
à ta place je sacrifierais Arusha pour 1 jour de plus à Tarangire, sans hésiter.
Ca te semble bien trop bas comme budget ?
Oui c'est clair, ça fait déjà un gros budget par famille.
Mais je pense que ce budget est plus facilement tenable en Namibie qu'en Tanzanie, même si ça dépend bien sur du "standing" que tu recherches.
AMHA ;-)
à ta disposition
Bonne préparation
;-)
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Pour les cinq véhicules, c'est le maximum autorisé par les règles du NCA autour d'un animal, donc rien qu'à vous cinq, vous êtes au quota. Il faudra donc impérativement vous séparer, même si cette règle est assez souvent non respectée dans le cratère (mais moins souvent que dans les parcs nationaux où la densité de rangers est très inférieure).
Pour le programme qui t'a été soumis, les hébergements sont bons (Serena : gamme moyenne supérieure, Sopa idem en un peu moins bien) mais la gestion du temps me paraît mauvaise, je suppose pour des raisons d'économie des parks fees. Ceux-ci se comptent en effet par tranche de 24 heures, d'heure d'entrée à heure de sortie et toute tranche entamée, même de 30 mn est intégralement due. D'où cette insistance à te faire entrer après midi et sortir avant midi (on peut remplacer midi par n'importe quelle heure, œuf corse).
Pour une durée aussi courte, Manyara ne me semble pas impératif.
Le premier jour, on peut partir le matin jusqu'au NCA où je conseille de faire l'impasse sur les Gorges d'Olduvai et de choisir un hébergement au nord ouest de la zone de conservation à Ndutu.
Le jour 4 faire un game-drive le matin dans le Serengeti, l'après-midi game-drive à Ndutu (donc dans le NCA) et arrivée avant 6 heures au Serena.
Pour le jour 5, faire préciser la durée du séjour dans le cratère, à ce que j'ai compris un jour entier ?? Insister pour être à la gate du cratère à l'ouverture.
Pour le jour 6, on peut arriver dans le Tarangire pour un game-drive avant le déjeuner.
Jour 7 : faire un safari dans le Tarangire toute la matinée, on peut partir du parc sans problème vers 14 heures en respectant une bonne marge de sécurité (en principe 2 heures de trajet)... Et un bon coup à faire : demander une chambre de jour à KIA Lodge dont le parc contient pour les photographes une foule de piafous, du calao au coliou en passant par les souimangas, cossyphes, Estrildidés divers, etc et qui a une belle piscine pour les enfants.
L'été, Noël sont en haute saison, donc effectivement plus chers. Si tu t'intéresses aux oiseaux, je te conseille Noël, si tu t'intéresses aux grands mammifères, c'est l'été sans aucun doute.
Je ne te conseille pas novembre, qui est le mois du début de la saison des pluies (la "petite saison des pluies" est une invention des collègues à Séguéla), meme s'il y a une très forte variation d'une année sur l'autre. Le temps, en principe pluvieux, peut y être super comme il peut être affreux. Un pari donc, à toi de voir s'il vaut l'économie.
Pour Noël, (début de la petite saison sèche, autre super invention publicitaire de la tribu des tubards), la problématique est la même, le temps, en principe peu pluvieux, peut y être super comme il peut être affreux, tout cela dépendant des relations conflictuelles entre El Niño et La Niña et de leurs répercussions à un océan (pas si pacifique) de là...
Tu peux jeter un œil à notre site amateur de safari photo si tu as le temps pour avoir une idée de ce que les parcs peuvent te proposer.
A ta disposition si je peux t'helper un chouïa
BL
Nous venons de nous adresser à un TO en Tanzanie, et ils nous proposent le parcours suivant :
Day 1 Kilimanjaro – Arusha - Lake Manyara
On arrival at Kilimanjaro Airport, clear Customs and Immigration formalities
Met and transfer to Arusha City
Lunch at an Arusha Restaurant
Afternoon commence drive to Lake Manyara
Dinner and overnight at Lake Manyara Serena Lodge L-DBB
Day 2 Lake Manyara - Serengeti
Breakfast
Morning game drive in Lake Manyara National Park
Early lunch at the Lodge
Afternoon drive to Seronera Area of Serengeti National Park
Dinner and overnight at Serengeti Serena Lodge L-DBB
Day 3 Serengeti
Full day of game drives in Seronera Area of Serengeti National Park
Lunch may be a picnic in the Park or a hot meal at the Lodge
All meals and overnight at Serengeti Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 4 Serengeti - Ngorongoro
Breakfast
Game viewing en route, drive to Ngorongoro Conservation Area via Olduvai Gorge
Remainder of the day at leisure; optional activities are available (at extra costs)
Lunch, dinner and overnight at Ngorongoro Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 5 Ngorongoro
Breakfast
Today, descend the Ngorongoro Crater for a Crater Tour, with picnic lunch
Return to the Lodge
Dinner and overnight at Ngorongoro Serena Lodge LDBB
Day 6 Ngorongoro - Tarangire
Breakfast
Morning drive to Tarangire National Park
Afternoon game drive in Tarangire National Park
Dinner and overnight at Tarangire Sopa Lodge LDBB
Day 7 Tarangire - Arusha – Kilimanjaro & Depart
Breakfast
Game viewing en route out of Tarangire National Park, morning drive back to Arusha
Lunch at an Arusha Restaurant
Later transfer to Kilimanjaro Airport for your international departure flight
L-
Cela vous paraît-il cohérent par rapport aux points les plus intéressants à visiter ?
@ Blesl :
Merci pour ton long post et tous les détails qui me sont très utiles, moi qui découvre cette partie de l'Afrique (J'ai vécu très longtemps à Abidjan étant petit, mais je n'ai jamais eu l'occasion de faire un safari dans les pays cités !)
Tu indiques que le Ngorongoro en Août à 5 voiture n'est pas un plan d'enfer ... pour quelle raison ? J'ai peur que de toute façon, en nous baladant à 5 voitures, on ne passe jamais inaperçus 😏 C'est le revers de la médaille de voyager en groupe ... nous pourrons en effet négocier les prix, mais nous serons toujours 5 4x4 groupés ... A moins que les guides nous fassent suivre des parcours différents une fois dans le parc ... est-ce possible ?
Encore Merci à tous pour vos avis et recommandations.
Le planning proposé est un peu serré en effet ... on va voir si on peut adapter ça en fonction de vos conseils ...
Nous sommes en contact avec l'agence LeopardTours sur place ...
Pour la période, ça sera donc plutôt l'été !
Blesl, ton site est vraiment super !!! Ca donne carrément envie :)
Pour l'Af Sud, on s'est partagé le travail avec nos amis. L'un des couples est chargé de creuser la question :)
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I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate.
It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby;
- the very family-friendly atmosphere;
- the monasteries in incredible landscapes;
- the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap;
- the atmosphere of Geghard;
- the cliffs of Noravank;
- the food;
- the feeling of safety;
- the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected;
- some roads are mountainous;
- avoid overloading the day;
- it’s better to have a driver or a car;
- plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals;
- a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites;
- a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan
Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap
Day 3: Garni + Geghard
Day 4: Noravank + Areni
Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly.
It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing:
22 July: arrival in Johannesburg
Night of 22–23: Johannesburg
Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th)
Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th)
Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?)
Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari)
Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?)
Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales
Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?)
Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th
10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think?
Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set:
Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu
Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu
Morning & afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee
Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee
Nilaveli Beach
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee
Pigeon Island snorkeling
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee
Fort Frederick & relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya
Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya
Sigiriya Rock
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya
Minneriya safari
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya
Polonnaruwa & village tour
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 11 – 04/26: Ella
Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest
Overnight: Ella
Day 12 – 04/27: Ella
Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge
Overnight: Ella
Day 13 – 04/28: Ella
Ella Rock
Overnight: Ella
Day 14 – 04/29: Ella
Tea Factory & relaxation
Overnight: Ella
Day 15 – 04/30: Yala
Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Yala
Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay
Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay
Surfing & relaxation
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay
Local exploration
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo
Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest
Overnight: Colombo
Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo
City tour & shopping
Overnight: Colombo
Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo
Morning return flight from Colombo
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13).
We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊
Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit.
We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places.
We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think?
We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah.
Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary
Day 1
Arrival around 1 PM at the airport
Night in Negombo
Day 2
Drive from Negombo to Galle
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 3
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 4
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Drive from Galle to Udawalawe
Night in Udawalawe
Day 5
Visit Udawalawe National Park
Night in Udawalawe
Day 6
Drive from Udawalawe to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 7
Ella Rock
+ Nine Arch Bridge
Night in Ella
Day 8
Visit Haputale
Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory
Train ride back from Haputale to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 9
Little Adam’s Peak
+ drive from Ella to Arugam Bay
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 10
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 11
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 12
Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 13
Visit Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 14
Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya
Night in Sigiriya
Day 15
Lion Rock and Pidurangala
Night in Sigiriya
Day 16
Visit Dambulla
Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee
Night in Trincomalee
Day 17
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 18
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 19
Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 20
Visit Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 21
Visit Mihintale
Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo
Night in Negombo
Day 22
Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July?
Thanks for your input!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan:
We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options:
- Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van.
- Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia.
- Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:**
- Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe?
- Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest?
- Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?)
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks.
I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there.
Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time.
I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get.
Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts:
- For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days.
- A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!)
- With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes).
We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea.
We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play.
Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us?
We don’t know the region at all.
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon.
06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu
08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok
11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan
13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi
15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL
23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips?
Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting.
- How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us?
- Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower.
- February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring.
- Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area.
After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport.
Thanks in advance for your ideas.
Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
Hi there, I’m really sorry if this question has already been asked several times—I’ve been scouring blogs, forums, and various sites for a while now, but I still have some more specific questions for our trip...
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok.
Do you think the following route would work?
- Kuta Lombok
- Gili Gede
- Gili Meno
- Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before?
For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts?
To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis?
As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?
