Rio de Janeiro en cinq jours
by Marinasellal
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
avec mon conjoint nous partons à Rio de Janeiro du 1 au 5 septembre 2012.
Quelqu'un pourrait il nous conseiller sur l'emplacement stratégique d'un hôtel pour pouvoir visiter les incontournables sans passer trop de temps dans les transports?
Nous souhaiterions aller à Ihla Grande,
Est-ce possible en 1 journée?
Cela vaut-il le coup en septembre (météo moins favorable)?
Nous souhaiterions aussi avoir le nom d'une boite ou d'un bar pour écouter et danser sur de la musique traditionelle?
Enfin nous souhaterions voir un match de foot et assister à une démonstration de Samba.
PS: notre pgm est très chargé mais nous voulons en voir un maximum.
Merci de vos réponse
Salut Marina!
En une journée, Ilha grande c'est impossible: il te faut environ 2h30 de bus pour arriver à Angra dos Reis, puis prendre un bateau pour rejoindre l'ile et tout faire dans le sens inverse le même jour. Tu n'auras à peine le temps de te promener un tout petit peu et de ne rien apprecier... D'ailleurs en 4/5 jours a Rio tu auras a peine le temps de faire le tour de la ville en n'ayant pas l'impression de l'avoir survolée. En Septembre la météo n'est pas moins favorable et va au contraire en s'améliorant petit à petit puisque se termine l'hiver austral. Il y aura peut etre quelques matinées de pluie.
Pour le logement, selon un budget décroissant il y a Leblon/Ipanema, Copacabana et Botafogo (vers la praia de botafogo) qui ont pas mal d'options de logement sans avoir à trop prendre les transports en commun.
Pour le foot, regarde un des clubs de la ville (vasco de gama, fluminense, botafogo, flamengo) de premiere division. Il y aura problablement des matches dans la periode où vous y serez. Pour ce qui est de la samba, je ne saurais pas trop quoi te conseiller... peut etre aller faire un tour dans une des ecoles de samba qui defilent pour le carnaval...
Bon voyage!
En une journée, Ilha grande c'est impossible: il te faut environ 2h30 de bus pour arriver à Angra dos Reis, puis prendre un bateau pour rejoindre l'ile et tout faire dans le sens inverse le même jour. Tu n'auras à peine le temps de te promener un tout petit peu et de ne rien apprecier... D'ailleurs en 4/5 jours a Rio tu auras a peine le temps de faire le tour de la ville en n'ayant pas l'impression de l'avoir survolée. En Septembre la météo n'est pas moins favorable et va au contraire en s'améliorant petit à petit puisque se termine l'hiver austral. Il y aura peut etre quelques matinées de pluie.
Pour le logement, selon un budget décroissant il y a Leblon/Ipanema, Copacabana et Botafogo (vers la praia de botafogo) qui ont pas mal d'options de logement sans avoir à trop prendre les transports en commun.
Pour le foot, regarde un des clubs de la ville (vasco de gama, fluminense, botafogo, flamengo) de premiere division. Il y aura problablement des matches dans la periode où vous y serez. Pour ce qui est de la samba, je ne saurais pas trop quoi te conseiller... peut etre aller faire un tour dans une des ecoles de samba qui defilent pour le carnaval...
Bon voyage!
"Le courage est le juste milieu entre la peur et l'audace."
Salut 🙂
5 jours à Rio, c'est déjà pas mal et suffisant pour visiter les principales attractions :Corcovado (à coupler avec le Mirante Dona Marta)Pain de SucrePlages de Copacabana & d'IpanemaJardin Botanique (singes en liberté)Forte Duque de Caxias (vue superbe sur Copa)Arcos de Lapa & Escadaria Selaron (venir avec une céramique il sera ravi)Quartier Santa Teresa (à faire à pied ou en bus car le tram ne fonctionne plus)Sans oublier un match de l'une des 4 équipes carioca : Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco ou BotafogoEt j'en oublie sûrement...
Concernant le logement, le quartier de Copacabana reste une valeur sûre car proche de la plage et des transports en commun (bus et métro).
Bon voyage dans la Cidade Maravilhosa !!! 😎
Stef
5 jours à Rio, c'est déjà pas mal et suffisant pour visiter les principales attractions :Corcovado (à coupler avec le Mirante Dona Marta)Pain de SucrePlages de Copacabana & d'IpanemaJardin Botanique (singes en liberté)Forte Duque de Caxias (vue superbe sur Copa)Arcos de Lapa & Escadaria Selaron (venir avec une céramique il sera ravi)Quartier Santa Teresa (à faire à pied ou en bus car le tram ne fonctionne plus)Sans oublier un match de l'une des 4 équipes carioca : Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco ou BotafogoEt j'en oublie sûrement...
Concernant le logement, le quartier de Copacabana reste une valeur sûre car proche de la plage et des transports en commun (bus et métro).
Bon voyage dans la Cidade Maravilhosa !!! 😎
Stef
Marseille, ma ville
Rio de Janeiro 2008 & 2011
Cyclades 2016
Merci bcp
Pour ihla grande nous verrons sur place si le temps le permet.
- Par contre j'ai entendu dire qu'en partant de Conceicao de Jacarei le trajet est plus cout pour Ihla Grande et il ya des bateaux plusieurs fois par jour. Quelqu'un pourrait il me confirmer cette information + horaires bus + bateaux?
- Quelqu'un ne connaitrait il pas une bonne agence pour visiter la forêt de Tijuca+Corcovado? Nous l'aurions bien fait seuls mais question sécurité il est conseillé de partir avec une agence
Merci d'avance pour ces informations
- Quelqu'un ne connaitrait il pas une bonne agence pour visiter la forêt de Tijuca+Corcovado? Nous l'aurions bien fait seuls mais question sécurité il est conseillé de partir avec une agence
Merci d'avance pour ces informations
Je ne connais pas ni les horaires ni la fréquence des bateaux pour Conceicao de Jacarei... mais je me souviens que c'etait facilement indique dans le Lonely Planet.
Le Corcovado, tu n'as vraiment besoin de personne pour y aller et ce n'est pas plus dangereux qu'ailleurs. Tu as des bus qui vont directement jusqu'a la station du train, ou bien tu peux prendre un taxi.
Pour la Tijuca, je ne peux pas t'aider malheureusement...
Bon voyage!
Bon voyage!
"Le courage est le juste milieu entre la peur et l'audace."
Merci pour ces informations,
J'ai trouvé les horaires sur internet
A bientôt
Je reviens du Bresil et je confirme qu eun une journée ce nest pas possible Ilha Grande.Après pour la visite du christ redempteur pain de sucre ou autre je te conseille les bus de la ville.Tu vas à un point d'info il te donne tous les renseignements ou se trouve l'arrêt et autre.Je te rassure on n'est jamais seul à descendre et les bresiliens sont sympas et vous aide. Tu feras une economie enorme en prenant le transport public.Pour l hebergement j etais à Copa et pour moi cest le plus strategique...Si tu as d'autres questions.Ah je suis allée voir un match tous les hôtels en proposent on vient te chercher et on te depose.Le super stade est en travaux pour le mondial.
Merci beaucoup pour ces informations
Pour Ilha Grande deux jours c'est suffisant?
J'ai vu qu'en partant de Conceicao do jacaré la traversée est plus courte (environ 50 minutes) ce qui nous prendrait 3 à 4 h pour nous y rendre de Rio, donc c'est faisable en 2 jours et demi. Mais je ne sais pas si ça vaut le coup de faire l'île en 2 jours et du coup de n'avoir que 2 jours pleins pour Rio. Je ne veux pas non plus passer à côté de Rio. Mais Ihla Grande a l'air tellement belle, c'est dur de choisir.
Sinon connaîtrais tu des coins sympas pas très loin de Rio avec de belles plages et de beaux paysages ou on pourrait passer la journée?
Merci pour l'info concernant les matchs je verrai donc à mon hotel. C'est dommage que Maracana soit fermé....
Et juste on a vraiment envie d'aller faire la fête le soir avec les cariocas. Connaîtrais tu un endroit sympa et avec de la musique locale mais aussi internationale?
Merci
Merci pour l'info concernant les matchs je verrai donc à mon hotel. C'est dommage que Maracana soit fermé....
Et juste on a vraiment envie d'aller faire la fête le soir avec les cariocas. Connaîtrais tu un endroit sympa et avec de la musique locale mais aussi internationale?
Merci
Le soir moi je suis allée à Lapa, ambiance dans les bars .
C est vrai que Ilha Grande est magnifique 2 jours c est possible mais il faut que tu fasses un max sur Rio en deux jours.Il y a Paraty en 3h moi j ai beaucoup aimé sortie en mer et arrêt sur les plages.
Il y a aussi egalement la fête le dimanche dans les bars de plage de Copa.
A plus
Dans la rue Mem de Sa et au début de la rue do Lavradio au sein du Quartier Arcos da Lapa une ambiance extraordinaire dans certains bars et dans la rue
Une très bonne adresse (uniquement le samedi) dans le rue Joaquim Silva perpendiculaire à La Rua de Lapa et près de la rua Taylor un bar avec une terrasse (le Beco de Rato) ou' les gens du quartier dansent la samba et la rumba à partir de 18h30 jusqu'à 20h avec un orcheste du cru . Droit d'entrée =10 réals par personne et consommation ou petits amuses gueules en plus
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Marinasellal
pour ilha Grande toutes les agences de voyage vous le propose.
pour un prix mini soit environ 100 réais(2011)
le bus climatisé vous prend à l'hôtel à 8 heure ou a l'appartement.
vous rejoignez angra dos reis au port d'embarquement.
à 9 ,30 vous prenez un saveiro .découverte et exploration des fond marin.poissons de toute couleur photos sous marine ect...
balade à l'ilha Grande.
découverte de l'ile.
restaurant de poissons.vers 18 heure retour en bateau vers Angra.
bus pour l'hôtel.arrivé 20 heure à RIO.
pour appartement voir aluguetemporada.com.br
si vous aimez la bossa nova voir VINICIUS rua Vinicius de Morais Ipanéma .
samba chorinho, bossa nova RIO Scénarium à Lapa .en taxi........
MADMAX09
Madmax a raison c est sur que toutes les agences proposent...Mais on passe beaucoup de temps dans les transports...Et sur ca vaut le coup d'une escapade Ilha Grande.Le tarif est entre 150 et 200 reais
Merci pour toutes ces infos!!!
J'ai juste une dernière question avant le départ.
On va donc faire Ihla Grande en partant de Conceicao de Jacarei, mais pour le retour, il y a un bateau qui part d'Ihla Grande à 7:30 le matin et qui rejoint Conceicao.
Ma question est: est ce que le bus Costa Verde s'arrête à Conceicao pour prendre des passagers dans le sens Conceicao-Rio (car je sais que dans l'autre sens il faut demander au chauffeur de nous arrêter). Je ne voudarais pas être bloquée à Conceicao sachant que je dois être le même jour à l'aéroport de Rio pour 15h.
Merci d'avance
Ma question est: est ce que le bus Costa Verde s'arrête à Conceicao pour prendre des passagers dans le sens Conceicao-Rio (car je sais que dans l'autre sens il faut demander au chauffeur de nous arrêter). Je ne voudarais pas être bloquée à Conceicao sachant que je dois être le même jour à l'aéroport de Rio pour 15h.
Merci d'avance
Bom dia
Je me pose la même question que Marinasellal concernant le retour en bus depuis Conceiçao. Quelqu'un saurait-il s'il est possible de prendre le bus pour Rio depuis depuis cette ville ? Si oui, est-ce que vous connaissez les horaires ?
Sur le site de CostaVerde ils ne parlent que de Angra
Obrigada, Anne
Je me pose la même question que Marinasellal concernant le retour en bus depuis Conceiçao. Quelqu'un saurait-il s'il est possible de prendre le bus pour Rio depuis depuis cette ville ? Si oui, est-ce que vous connaissez les horaires ?
Sur le site de CostaVerde ils ne parlent que de Angra
Obrigada, Anne
Oi,
Vous voulez partir de Ilha Grande et accéder directement à l'aéroport? Il y a de nombreux transferts express depuis Ilha Grande qui passer par Conceiçao et ensuite qui vous emmène directement en mini bus à Rio. C'est très pratique et ce n'est pas très cher. Pour sortir de l'ile par tes propres moyens, il est plus simple d'aller à Angra où il existe de nombreux bateaux/bus.
Vous voulez partir de Ilha Grande et accéder directement à l'aéroport? Il y a de nombreux transferts express depuis Ilha Grande qui passer par Conceiçao et ensuite qui vous emmène directement en mini bus à Rio. C'est très pratique et ce n'est pas très cher. Pour sortir de l'ile par tes propres moyens, il est plus simple d'aller à Angra où il existe de nombreux bateaux/bus.
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The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada