Une semaine au Maroc en juin
by Jerome3484
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, ma femme et moi voulons partir au Maroc une petite semaine au mois de mai ou juin, nous ne voulons pas faire de kilomètres et rester sur la ville où on atterrit.
Ce sera notre premier voyage en terre marocaine nous y allons pour decouvrir, faire les souks et visiter. Que me conseillez vous comme ville, sachant que nous n'aimons pas trop les lieux hypers touristiques 😀😀.
J'avais pensé à faire Fès/Meknes qu'en pensez vous? Auriez-vous d'autres propositions?
Connaissez vous des riads pas trop cher egalement ?
rester une semaine sur une ville c'est possible bien sur, mais il faut savoir que les plus belles villes voient légitimement passer beaucoup de touristes..
une ville que j'aime beaucoup est celle de FES, je trouve votre idée excellente : les souks et une médina des plus belles du Maghreb, une très grand richesse culturelle, de quoi visiter jusqu'à plus soif sans se lasser. et surement moins "touriste" que Marrakech.
avec des balades alentours : Meknes (une journée avec un jet de train - 30 mn - matin et soir), Sefrou (en 1/2 journée à 30 mn en "grand taxi"), Azrou : une grande journée avec un transport touristique privé. (donc journée plus chère, mais en mai ou juin, les forêt de cèdres sont bien belles); Ifrane perso je ne suis pas fan (petite ville "VIP" aux allures de village suisse). curieux mais ça peut se zapper. Volubilis aussi mais pareil, il faut prendre un taxi ou un transport touristique.
je ne connais pas de riads, je vais à l'auberge de jeunesse (vu mon âge ça s'impose 😉 ) mais vous aurez surement des conseils d'autres forumeur.euse.s. booking est un repaire de riads : on peut regarder photos et commentaires. ça donne une idée.
j'utilise le guide vert des visites thématiques, avec un fléchage couleur dans la ville, J'ai aussi "fes de bab en bab" et "fes-meknes" michelin.
certains séjours, j'ai pu au débotté (attirée par une affiche, voir le son de la musique) assister à de forts jolis concerts en ville.
une ville que j'aime beaucoup est celle de FES, je trouve votre idée excellente : les souks et une médina des plus belles du Maghreb, une très grand richesse culturelle, de quoi visiter jusqu'à plus soif sans se lasser. et surement moins "touriste" que Marrakech.
avec des balades alentours : Meknes (une journée avec un jet de train - 30 mn - matin et soir), Sefrou (en 1/2 journée à 30 mn en "grand taxi"), Azrou : une grande journée avec un transport touristique privé. (donc journée plus chère, mais en mai ou juin, les forêt de cèdres sont bien belles); Ifrane perso je ne suis pas fan (petite ville "VIP" aux allures de village suisse). curieux mais ça peut se zapper. Volubilis aussi mais pareil, il faut prendre un taxi ou un transport touristique.
je ne connais pas de riads, je vais à l'auberge de jeunesse (vu mon âge ça s'impose 😉 ) mais vous aurez surement des conseils d'autres forumeur.euse.s. booking est un repaire de riads : on peut regarder photos et commentaires. ça donne une idée.
j'utilise le guide vert des visites thématiques, avec un fléchage couleur dans la ville, J'ai aussi "fes de bab en bab" et "fes-meknes" michelin.
certains séjours, j'ai pu au débotté (attirée par une affiche, voir le son de la musique) assister à de forts jolis concerts en ville.
Merci pour cette reponse complète cambrousse. Je me doute bien que Fès est touristique mais toujours moins que Marrakech que je n'ai pas voulu cité dans mon premier message.
Petite question, pour aller à Sefrou ou Azrou ça coute combien en moyenne et quelle est la durée du trajet, j'ai regardé sur map ça n'a pas l'air bien loin à vol d'oiseau.
Sefrou c est quelques dh 6-7 c est tout.
grand taxi pour y aller ; et en revenir on en trouve en veux tu en voila.
sur place tout se fait à pied.
Azrou bcp plus cher car y aller en bus ou grand taxi n a pas d intérêt car alors on ne peut pas se balader sur place. Çà fait un bail(pour cette balade) il me manque cette mémoire mais je dirais 500-600 dh AR.
Azrou bcp plus cher car y aller en bus ou grand taxi n a pas d intérêt car alors on ne peut pas se balader sur place. Çà fait un bail(pour cette balade) il me manque cette mémoire mais je dirais 500-600 dh AR.
Bonjour,
Moi aussi, je trouve que Fes-Meknes est une bonne idée. Transports communs de Meknes à Moulay Idriss. J'ai bien aimé cette petite ville. Volubilis est à 5 km de Moulay Idriss. Si vous aimez marcher, c'est sympa à faire.
Pour les trajets : en taxis collectifs, on compte environ 30 dh les 100 km (pour 1 place - le taxi transporte 6 personnes, il ne part que quand les 6 places sont payées). Sur petites routes nationales/locales, il faut compter environ 50-60 km à l'heure (on traverse généralement beaucoup de villages), plutôt 40 km/h en route montagneuse. Il faut rajouter le temps d'attente avant que le taxi démarre (= avant que les 6 places soient prises, ou du moins payées).
2 précisions importantes à prendre en compte avant de fixer les dates de votre séjour : - Le ramadan a lieu environ du 15 mai au 15 juin. - le festival des musiques sacrées de Fes a lieu du 22 au 30 juin.
Cordialement Murielle
Moi aussi, je trouve que Fes-Meknes est une bonne idée. Transports communs de Meknes à Moulay Idriss. J'ai bien aimé cette petite ville. Volubilis est à 5 km de Moulay Idriss. Si vous aimez marcher, c'est sympa à faire.
Pour les trajets : en taxis collectifs, on compte environ 30 dh les 100 km (pour 1 place - le taxi transporte 6 personnes, il ne part que quand les 6 places sont payées). Sur petites routes nationales/locales, il faut compter environ 50-60 km à l'heure (on traverse généralement beaucoup de villages), plutôt 40 km/h en route montagneuse. Il faut rajouter le temps d'attente avant que le taxi démarre (= avant que les 6 places soient prises, ou du moins payées).
2 précisions importantes à prendre en compte avant de fixer les dates de votre séjour : - Le ramadan a lieu environ du 15 mai au 15 juin. - le festival des musiques sacrées de Fes a lieu du 22 au 30 juin.
Cordialement Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Merci, pour les dates ce serait du 15 juin au 23 environ, pensez vous que le festival des musiques sacrées gêne notres séjour?
Je viens de commencer un carnet sur Fes et je conseille fortement! La ville vous occupera 3/4 jours pleins.C'est touristique sur les 2 rues principales , ensuite c'est plutôt tranquille et il n'y a pas de harcèlement.
Pour les excursions en dehors, si vous ne voulez pas vous débrouiller seuls, c'est 80€ la journée pour un taxi qui vous amène aux différents centres d’intérêt (Volubilis/Moulay Idriss et Meknes dans la même journée) mais vous visitez seuls.
Pour les riads , en fonction de votre budget, regardez sur booking (on peut classer par prix) et les avis sur trip advisor. La localisation peut être importante (pour trouver à manger le soir sans se perdre!): pas trop loin de la porte Bab Boujloud (ou Bou Djeloud selon les cartes!) c'est bien.
je suis d'accord pour le prix donné : le mien date ....
pour une virée dans la forêt de cèdres, Azrou (voir passer à Ifrane c'est bon.
mais pour Meknès, c'est facile en train. et ça vaut la journée.
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et dans la même journée Meknes + Azrou .... ? on survole tout je pense. dommage.
bon, ce n'est que mon avis.
bon, ce n'est que mon avis.
Merci pour les deux carnets je vais regarder ça.
Merci, pour les dates ce serait du 15 juin au 23 environ, pensez vous que le festival des musiques sacrées gêne notres séjour?
Selon moi, la seule gène pourrait être le logement. Fès sera bondée à partir du 20-21 juin. N'attendez pas la dernière minute pour réserver.
Attention pour le 15 juin : a priori, ce sera le jour de l'ait el Fitr (dernier jour du Ramadan). Tout est à l'arrêt en soirée (à partir de la tombée de la nuit) : c'est une fête familiale, les gens sont en famille le soir, et travaillent peu (sans doute plus désert qu'à l'occasion d'une arrivée en France vers 20h un 24 décembre ;-) ). Les transports par exemple, sont très perturbés/rares. Tout dépendra de l'heure d'arrivée de votre avion.
Selon moi, la seule gène pourrait être le logement. Fès sera bondée à partir du 20-21 juin. N'attendez pas la dernière minute pour réserver.
Attention pour le 15 juin : a priori, ce sera le jour de l'ait el Fitr (dernier jour du Ramadan). Tout est à l'arrêt en soirée (à partir de la tombée de la nuit) : c'est une fête familiale, les gens sont en famille le soir, et travaillent peu (sans doute plus désert qu'à l'occasion d'une arrivée en France vers 20h un 24 décembre ;-) ). Les transports par exemple, sont très perturbés/rares. Tout dépendra de l'heure d'arrivée de votre avion.
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Bonsoir
Du 14 au 20 juin environ, le Maroc sera à l'arret, avec des transports desorganisés et un absenteisme important dans les hotels.
C'est une des 2 semaines ou il vaut mieux s'abstenir.
Bonsoir
Du 14 au 20 juin environ, le Maroc sera à l'arret, avec des transports desorganisés et un absenteisme important dans les hotels.
C'est une des 2 semaines ou il vaut mieux s'abstenir.
Non, la désorganisation dure tout au plus 2 jours (je dirais même plutôt 1 jour 1/2.
Non, la désorganisation dure tout au plus 2 jours (je dirais même plutôt 1 jour 1/2.
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Ok, un peu galère l'histoire…. Et si je part fin mai pendant le ramadan, comment ca se passe?
Etre à Fès pour le Festival est un plus!
Y aller au moins une soirée
Mieux vaut effectivement réserver et organiser votre transfert aéroport-riad avec votre hébergeur
Y aller au moins une soirée
Mieux vaut effectivement réserver et organiser votre transfert aéroport-riad avec votre hébergeur
Non, je ne pense pas que ce soit galère. Il faut juste vérifier la date de fin de ramadan (elle est déclarée la veille), et anticiper : votre hôtel ou riad saura vous trouver un transport pour venir vous chercher à l'aéroport.
Les autres jours, il n'y aura pas de souci.
Un séjour pendant le ramadan : les transports fonctionnent sans problème. A part les zones très touristiques, il peut être un difficile de trouver où se restaurer le midi. Attitudes à avoir : éviter de manger-boire-fumer devant les Marocains en journée. Vous verrez quelques Marocains un peu tendus en journée : ce sont généralement des fumeurs, qui tiennent tant bien que mal l'abstinence en journée, jusqu'à la tombée de la nuit (rupture du jeûne)... Le moment du ftor (rupture du jeûne) est un super moment. Si vous avez l'occasion de le partager avec des Marocains, c'est chouette. L'ambiance dans les souks juste avant est aussi sympa (tout le monde achète plus de trucs à manger, le commerce alimentaire marche à fond ! Perso, j'aime bien l'ambiance du ramadan.
Peut-être pouvez-vous envisager un mix des 2 ? arrivée 2 ou 3 jours avant l'Ait el fitr (vers le 11 juin), et départ avant le festival des musiques sacrées. Comme ça, vous connaîtrez le Maroc avec les convivialités liées au ramadan, sans vous trouver en galère le jour sans transports en commun.
Un séjour pendant le ramadan : les transports fonctionnent sans problème. A part les zones très touristiques, il peut être un difficile de trouver où se restaurer le midi. Attitudes à avoir : éviter de manger-boire-fumer devant les Marocains en journée. Vous verrez quelques Marocains un peu tendus en journée : ce sont généralement des fumeurs, qui tiennent tant bien que mal l'abstinence en journée, jusqu'à la tombée de la nuit (rupture du jeûne)... Le moment du ftor (rupture du jeûne) est un super moment. Si vous avez l'occasion de le partager avec des Marocains, c'est chouette. L'ambiance dans les souks juste avant est aussi sympa (tout le monde achète plus de trucs à manger, le commerce alimentaire marche à fond ! Perso, j'aime bien l'ambiance du ramadan.
Peut-être pouvez-vous envisager un mix des 2 ? arrivée 2 ou 3 jours avant l'Ait el fitr (vers le 11 juin), et départ avant le festival des musiques sacrées. Comme ça, vous connaîtrez le Maroc avec les convivialités liées au ramadan, sans vous trouver en galère le jour sans transports en commun.
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Encore merci pour tous les conseils, malheureusement je ne peut pas décalé le départ, je suis plus ou moins bloqué et ne voulant pas partir en juillet-août pour eviter le monde ont fera avec.
Voila il me manque plus qu'a trouver des billets pas chers 😉.
Si quelqu'un a une suggestion sur les hébergements bien placés dans la médina je suis preneur.
+1 avec elhine concernant les sejours durant le ramadan.
J en ai vecu plusieurs dont 1 a Fes.
Bonjour,
Pour connaître un peu....
Si le Ramadan, n'est pas vraiment un "obstacle", Ses derniers jours sont assez
"Spéciaux"; Pour le dire tout net: C'est un peu le bordel! Et L'Aïd", encore plus...
Il y a qq temps, nous étions au Maroc (Sud), pendant le Ramadan.
Rien qu'à Boulmane du Dadès, les derniers jours, la circulation était bloquée.
A MRK, c'était encore pire !
Donc, épris d'une grande sagesse (!), pour nous, cela à été le Ferry à Ceuta, la veille de l'Aïd !
Mais c'est chacun son truc
Razul
Merci pour le retour, dans mon cas se sera au mieu le dernier jour quand j'arriverai, on prendra nos dispositions.
Bonjour tout le monde, je viens d'acheter mes billets ça y est. Donc j'arriverai à Fès le jeudi 14 juin à 12h.
Donc comme dit plus sur les problèmes liés au ramadan, je conpte louer une voiture pour les deux où trois premiers jours et logé hors médina du style hotel Ibis pour pouvoir me consacrer au alentour, immouzere-kandat, iframe, azrou, sefrou, lac Dayet Aoua et coté Meknes, volubilis et Moulay Idriss.
Quand pensez-vous ? Et avez vous d'autres sujétions de visites dans les alentours ?
Donc comme dit plus sur les problèmes liés au ramadan, je conpte louer une voiture pour les deux où trois premiers jours et logé hors médina du style hotel Ibis pour pouvoir me consacrer au alentour, immouzere-kandat, iframe, azrou, sefrou, lac Dayet Aoua et coté Meknes, volubilis et Moulay Idriss.
Quand pensez-vous ? Et avez vous d'autres sujétions de visites dans les alentours ?
Bonjour,
J'espère pour vous que le 14 juin ne sera pas le jour de l'aïd (on ne connait la date exacte que quelques jours plus tôt, voire seulement la veille). C'est un peu comme si vous débarquiez en province en France un 25 décembre. Si c'est le jour de l'aïd, voyez avec votre hôtel, à l'avance, pour que l'on vienne vous chercher à l'aéroport, ou avec l'agence de location pour que la location de votre voiture démarre à l'aéroport.
Je préfère nettement un petit hôtel ou une maison d'hôte (plutôt qu'un hôtel de chaîne internationale). Vous en trouverez hors médina. D'autres internautes pourront vous donner quelques adresses sympas.
Cordialement, Murielle
J'espère pour vous que le 14 juin ne sera pas le jour de l'aïd (on ne connait la date exacte que quelques jours plus tôt, voire seulement la veille). C'est un peu comme si vous débarquiez en province en France un 25 décembre. Si c'est le jour de l'aïd, voyez avec votre hôtel, à l'avance, pour que l'on vienne vous chercher à l'aéroport, ou avec l'agence de location pour que la location de votre voiture démarre à l'aéroport.
Je préfère nettement un petit hôtel ou une maison d'hôte (plutôt qu'un hôtel de chaîne internationale). Vous en trouverez hors médina. D'autres internautes pourront vous donner quelques adresses sympas.
Cordialement, Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Bonjour,
FES est une très belle ville (Meknes également et Volubilus, j'ai adoré). Mais, c'est quand même dommage de zapper Marrakech.
C'est mon avis. A chaque fois que je retourne au Maroc, j'ai besoin de mes quelques jours dans cette ville. C'est encore le cas ici , j'y serai en juin.
Cordialement
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Merci Murielle, je sais bien je vais prévoir le transfert de l'aeroport à l'hotel en avance pour ne pas trop galerer.
Pour les hotels je suis comme vous je préfère les petites structures ou guesthouses mais en fait je suis tombé dessus sur Boo…g car je cherche un hotel où autre avec piscine à prix raisonnable , donc voila si certain on des bons plans je suis preneur et pas forcément sur Fès meme 😉.
Pour les hotels je suis comme vous je préfère les petites structures ou guesthouses mais en fait je suis tombé dessus sur Boo…g car je cherche un hotel où autre avec piscine à prix raisonnable , donc voila si certain on des bons plans je suis preneur et pas forcément sur Fès meme 😉.
Je ne doute pas que Marrakesh est une belle ville mais ce sera pas pour cette fois-ci, une semaine s'est trop court. Une prochaine fois surement.
Vous y serez vous aussi pour la fin du ramadan du coup?
je n'avais même pas regarder les dates du Ramadan
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
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Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!