Website with suggested visit duration for a country or city
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Hi, I’d love to know if there’s a website that gives a rough idea of how much time you should spend visiting a particular city or country. I know my question is super general, but it’d be really great if such a site existed.

Thanks in advance for your help. Take care and happy travels.

Régine
Régine ou Féline Perra pour les intimes...
VO VoyageForum Globetrotter ·
Hi,

We're currently working on this on our end. We hope to have it available by the start of the new school year.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Régine,

I’m a bit surprised by this suggestion. How do you envision this working? There’s no set "duration" for visiting a country or city—it all depends on your travel style, expectations, and preferences. Or are you assuming that "visiting a country" or "visiting a city" means ticking off the tourist "circus" of things you "must" see, supposedly? I could easily spend four days in Kragujevac or Mitrovica, but I can’t imagine spending even one night in Barcelona or Venice, for example. All of this leaves me a bit puzzled.

Michel
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I feel totally up for spending four days in Kragujevac or Mitrovica, but I can hardly imagine sleeping even one night in Barcelona or Venice, for example. Michel

I don’t have the pleasure of knowing Kragujevac or Mitrovica and I’ve no doubt these two towns have their charm. On the other hand, it’s precisely by sleeping in Venice—*intra muros*—when all the cruise passengers and day-trippers have left that I got to appreciate this magical city! 😊
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Bruno,

They’re not just small towns... Kragujevac is a major university city in Serbia, and as for Mitrovica—Mitrovicë, or Косовска Митровица on the other side of the carabinieri’s 4x4s—it’s an incredibly interesting place to visit. A city, a country, two communities separated by a bridge, two worlds. Fascinating. And no overtourism there, even though in southern Mitrovica, in the summer, you’ll see tons of cars with license plates from Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, the U.S., Canada, the U.K., etc.

As for the original idea, honestly, I don’t see the point of a catalog like that at all.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
What seems to interest Tatra (and it’s totally their right) is more this than that.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
For the core idea itself, honestly, I really don’t see the point of such a catalog of prescriptions.

The first few times you take the plunge, having a lifeguard and/or buoys around is reassuring.

Then you get more comfortable, but sometimes you still struggle to fully move away from the shore.

( The other explanation is conformity )
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EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Hi Régine,

I’m also surprised by the question you’ve raised. Most of all, I can’t imagine it’s possible to decree a single answer... After all, everyone has their own definition of “visiting” a city or a country. I’ll turn the question back to you: since you live in Lyon, how much time do you think someone should spend visiting the city? And do you think your neighbor, your baker, or your best friend’s daughter would say the same thing as you?

Besides, you can find travel guides that outline trips with set durations—like "London in 3 days, in 1 week, in 2 weeks," etc. I’ve always been amazed that people can travel by following these kinds of "itineraries" to the letter (i.e., at a breakneck pace). It doesn’t leave any room for spontaneous encounters, the unexpected, or changing your mind.

Best regards,

Murielle
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Hi, I think fans of this kind of site might be disappointed. Once the first one pops up (and it won’t be long), others will quickly follow, and with as many different opinions as there are sites, it won’t make things any easier. So, for visiting Lyon, how many hours do you think are needed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Jean Michel,

You can always ask ChatGPT. But when it comes to travel, it always gives confident but random answers—until you explain that you already know the answer, and then it agrees with you... 😏

Michel
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Good evening,

this kind of "circuit" proposal. It doesn’t leave any room for spontaneity, unexpected moments, or desires.

Unexpected events are a source of anxiety, so they’re best avoided as much as possible. Room for spontaneity? Oh no, I book all my accommodations, I have my list of restaurants, and I’ve reserved my day trips with my agency for the past six months—my itinerary is planned down to the last detail. Nothing can be changed except for roadworks or detours. I spent enough time putting it all together! And I even wonder if a website couldn’t have done just as good a job for me. Meeting people? What’s that? Bad encounters after dark? Definitely not! Desires? I have desires for breathtaking landscapes, and I want to soak them all in—that’s more than enough to fill my photo album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Good evening

This kind of "itinerary" proposal. It doesn’t leave any room for spontaneity, unexpected encounters, or changing your mind.

Unexpected events are a source of anxiety, so they’re best avoided as much as possible. Flexibility? Oh no, I’ve booked all my accommodations, I’ve got my list of restaurants, and I’ve reserved my day trips with my agency for the past 6 months—my route is planned down to the last detail. Nothing can be changed except roadworks or detours. .

Sounds like the description of daily life when you’re racing against the clock between work, traffic jams, shopping, family commitments, meet-ups... :D
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
sounds like the description of daily life when you have to rush around between work, traffic jams, shopping, family commitments, meet-ups...

Probably, but making a sudden change in your life for the duration of your vacation isn’t without risks for your body!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
You can always ask ChatGPT.

For me, it's still uncharted territory—I've only heard about it, just like artificial intelligence😕
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The duration requested is what suits most people for a classic visit.

A bit like a cooking website that says a recipe is good for 6 people.

If nobody likes it, the proportions actually work for 1,000. If you’ve invited 6 rugby players, it’ll only feed 2...

More sugar, more pepper, less flour, more lemon, more caramelized, softer?

It’s an average.

You’ll then need to tweak it to your own taste.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Here’s their response:

The time you should plan for visiting Lyon depends on your interests and pace, but here are some clear benchmarks based on different types of trips:

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🔹 Quick visit (1 day)

Ideal if you're in a hurry but want a good overview:

Vieux Lyon (cobblestone streets, traboules, Saint-Jean Cathedral)

Fourvière (basilica and panoramic view)

Presqu’île (Place Bellecour, rue de la République, City Hall) Plan for: 6 to 8 hours

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🔹 Standard stay (2 to 3 days)

Perfect for enjoying the city without rushing:

Everything mentioned above, plus:

Museums (Musée des Confluences, Musée des Beaux-Arts)

Parc de la Tête d’Or (zoo, botanical garden)

Walks along the Rhône or Saône quays

Tasting at a *bouchon lyonnais* Plan for: 2 full days for the essentials, 3 days if you want museums + walks

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🔹 In-depth exploration (4 days or more)

For history buffs, foodies, or leisurely explorers:

Croix-Rousse (history of the *canuts*, bohemian vibe)

Less touristy neighborhoods (Guillotière, Confluence, Monplaisir)

Cultural outings (opera, theater, concerts)

Day trips nearby (Beaujolais, Pérouges, etc.)

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📝 Conclusion:

1 day = quick overview

2–3 days = complete and enjoyable visit

4+ days = total immersion in the city and its surroundings

Would you like a personalized itinerary based on your interests (history, gastronomy, nature, etc.)?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Agnès,

Your image is interesting, but I find it still feels like a pretty consumerist approach—spots to see based on tastes or choices, but always listed in some kind of tourism directory. I’ve never been able to do that; maybe because I hate waiting in line, for example. Never, I just never do it. A group of men drinking coffee while smoking or playing games, young women dolled up like oriental princesses walking in groups of three or four on the cobblestones of an Albanian Thursday night, a pack of street dogs lined up for their eighth hour of sleep in the shade of a melon vendor’s umbrella—those are the things that make me happy in Kosovo. Museums? I couldn’t care less.

As for your metaphor of the life preserver and the pool, when I think about it, I realize I was lucky to be raised by people who refused to cultivate fear, who knew how not to pass it on to me. So I never needed that safety float. That’s why I’ve always taken improbable trips, seen very few tourists, and when I do, I avoid them. In Kaliningrad, Narva, Pale, Vitebsk, Elazig, Gyumri, Famagusta, Hódmezővásárhely, Port Said, or Mitrovica, there are no tourists—just the world, and you spend as much time as you want there. It’s also a generational thing—who lets their kids go away for a month or two without a phone these days?

Michel
EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Here’s their response:

The time you should plan to visit Lyon depends on your interests and pace, but here are some clear benchmarks for different types of trips:

---

⏳ Quick visit (1 day)

Ideal if you're in a hurry but want a good overview:

Old Lyon (cobblestone streets, traboules, Saint-Jean Cathedral)

Fourvière (basilica and panoramic view)

Presqu’île (Place Bellecour, Rue de la République, City Hall) Plan for: 6 to 8 hours

---

⏳ Standard stay (2 to 3 days)

Perfect for enjoying the city without rushing:

Everything mentioned above, plus:

Museums (Musée des Confluences, Musée des Beaux-Arts)

Parc de la Tête d’Or (zoo, botanical garden)

Walks along the Rhône or Saône quays

Tasting at a *bouchon lyonnais* Plan for: 2 full days for the essentials, 3 days if you want museums + walks

---

⏳ In-depth exploration (4 days or more)

For history buffs, foodies, or those who like to wander:

Croix-Rousse (history of the *canuts*, bohemian vibe)

Less touristy neighborhoods (Guillotière, Confluence, Monplaisir)

Cultural outings (opera, theater, concerts)

Day trips nearby (Beaujolais, Pérouges, etc.)

---

📌 Conclusion:

1 day = quick overview

2-3 days = a complete and enjoyable visit

4+ days = full immersion in the city and its surroundings

This is exactly what you already find in guidebooks. It’s the kind of extremely formatted description. And I don’t agree with the terms you use in your conclusion—they’re too subjective to appeal to everyone. Saying you can have a "full immersion" in Lyon in just 4 days (even without the surroundings) is either a lie or a joke... But even at the core, everyone has their own definition of a "visit." Is it just about "seeing"? "Doing"? A consumerist approach. Like you said, it’s tailored to the masses. "I’ve done Lyon"...

Like Tatra (oh wow, I agree with Tatra! What a rarity :D), I don’t care much about museums. I don’t avoid them completely, but they definitely won’t be my priority. I’m first and foremost looking for the local neighborhood restaurant and café, the small and big markets, wandering aimlessly through the city... I don’t visit tourist offices much (except maybe to grab a city map). I do my research in advance on things "to see and do," but I usually only remember 2 or 3 key points (a mural on a wall, market days, an unusual garden...). The history of a place matters to me too. And I’ve met plenty of travelers who wouldn’t fit the profile of 1-, 2-, or 3-day visits...

Murielle
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EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
The duration suggested is what suits most people for a standard visit.

A bit like a cooking site that says a recipe is for 6 people.

If nobody likes it, the proportions actually work for 1,000. If you’ve invited 6 rugby players, it’ll feed 2...

More sugar, more pepper, less flour, more lemon, more caramelized, softer?

It’s an average.

You’ve then got to make your own sauce.

A bit of a risky comparison. A dish, a recipe, isn’t just about personal tastes or needs—far from it. You don’t design a recipe the same way you plan a visit to a city or country... Remove the main ingredient from a recipe, and it’s no longer the same recipe. Skip the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomphe in Paris, and you’re not visiting a different city.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Going without a float when you can't swim and the water's too deep isn't about refusing to face your fear—it's just plain foolishness.

That's how some people end up in a hole for eternity...

Most people need floats and conformity.

Right or wrong, it doesn’t matter as long as they're happy that way.

Your way of traveling might become trendy one day.

That would solve over-tourism in some areas today but create new problems elsewhere...

Personally, it's not lists that appeal to me, nor your way of doing things. It's more about the car as a mode of transport. Landscapes over cities, as few people as possible. A mix of three-star sites and ignored spots. Even in Croatia, you can be alone. Just signal and leave the Magistrala Road.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
AI responses come from what it's been fed. Definitely from guides, in fact.

If you feed it something else, it'll respond differently... Basically, if most users tell it it's completely wrong, it'll eventually spit out the new answers it's been given.

It's like a child whose head's been stuffed with verses, for example. They can recite them by heart, but don't ask them to think for themselves.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You're way more conformist about cooking recipes than you are about travel...😄
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EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
AI responses come from what it's been fed. Definitely from guides, in fact.

If you feed it something else, it'll respond differently... Basically, if most users tell it it's completely wrong, it'll eventually spit out the new answers it's been given.

It's like a child whose head has been stuffed with verses, for example. They can recite them by heart, but don't ask them to think.

What does AI have to do with this?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Well, the Chat GPT mentioned above that gave the answer about Lyon.

It's AI.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
On the ChatGPT site, it also says:

Can I trust AI responses? ChatGPT provides answers based on its training data, but it can sometimes give incomplete or incorrect information. It’s best to double-check responses with a critical eye.

Why did ChatGPT give me an off-topic answer? ChatGPT can sometimes "hallucinate" or make up facts.
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EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
You're way more conformist about cooking recipes than you are about travel...

Good point! When it comes to approach, yeah, I’m definitely more conformist in the kitchen than when I travel—that’s for sure! But for the rest, it’s pretty much the same: I always end up going back to what I love (recipes and places alike...), and I don’t feel the need to try everything or see it all.
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EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Ben Chat GPT mentioned above, who provided the answer about Lyon.

It's AI.

Oh, it was AI that gave the answer?! I didn’t get that...
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