Je compte faire la traversée des alpes par la route des Grandes Alpes en scooter 50 cc.
Est ce que ça vous semble possible ?
Combien de jours je devrais prévoir pour faire la traversée ?
Merci pour vos réponses.
"When I saw the Hoggar Mountains, my jaw dropped. If you think of Bryce, or Canyonlands National Park, you're close, but the Hoggar Mountains are more spectacular." David Ball, Empire of sands
Ca c'est de l'aventure !
Ca paraît génial sur le papier mais en réalité, je ne sais pas si un scooter arrivera à monter des cols hauts en altitude comme l'Iseran.
Sur ce point, tu devrais te renseigner auprès d'un garage. 😛
Houla ça me paraît plus que juste un 50cc dans des cols de montagne (à moins de peser 20kg et sans bagages ... et encore).
Il y a aussi un risque de casse moteur (un scooter 50cc n'est pas une machine avec une longévité réputée surtout en puisant non stop dans sa puissance pour grimper les côtes).
Outre l'aspect puissance qui te manqueras pour monter (donc moins de fun), je vois un réel dangers pour toi et les autre usagers de la route, imagine une voiture lancée à 80km/h se retrouver juste après un virage derrière un scoot qui roule à moins de 50km/h ... pour moi c'est très risqué ce que tu souhaites faire. Tout le monde va chercher à te doubler parceque tu avances pas assez vite, y compris les caravanes et les camions...
Manque de puissance
Moteur pas forcément assez résistant (je dis bien "pas forcément", c'est mon avis par rapport à ce que j'ai constaté)
Freinage pas forcément adapté (en descente tes plaquettes vont bien chauffer....)
pas pratique niveau bagages
stabilité pas extraordinaire
Bref mon avis .... passe à la cylindrée supérieur car ça pourrait être dangereux ...
je dirais qu'une chose, la seul façon de savoir si c'est possible c'est de le tenter. J'en sais quelque chose, j'ai effectuer en 2007 un tour d'Europe en mobylette de 27000Km, personne n'y croyait au départ, tous le monde me disait c'est impossible (même les professionnels de la marque) que la mob ne tiendra jamais le coup. Pour finir c'est le vol de ma mob qui ma obligé à arrêté l'aventure. En 2009 j'ai fait un tour d'Amérique du Nord de 33000km, toujours en mob, bon la mob a fini par rendre l'âme, mais je lui en est fait voir de toutes les couleurs, beaucoup de pluie, nuit à -20C, 250km de route par jour, 800km de piste défoncé pour atteindre le cercle polaire.
Dans mon premier voyage j'ai franchie les Alpes avec un col à 2000m d'altitude, il à fallu pédalé tout le long, mais mob était peu puissante comparer au scooter moderne d'aujourd'hui. Et en Amérique j'ai franchi la sierra Nevada avec un col a 2600m d'altitude.
Je pense que le plus important est que tu connaisse un minimum la mécanique de ton véhicule surtout la partit transmission qui soufre en col.
Tu peux allez voir mon site www.deniol.comm
Bonsoir.
Je suis d'accord avec Deniol, pour le savoir, il faut le tenter.
En fait, la machine est sans doute importante, mais je dirais que le pilote et sa volonté font partie de la réussite de la machine.
Je lève mon chapeau devant ce qu'a fait Deniol.
Et l'enseignement que j'en tire est le suivant :
L'homme et sa volonté de réussir, de remplir l'objectif qu'il s'est fixé, de réaliser son rêve, est le garant absolu du résultat.
Une autre conclusion est :
Deniol est un homme hors du commun, parce qu'il a la volonté, les tripes, le courage d'affronter et de vaincre les obstacles.
Je suis donc personnellement très respectueux devant son "oeuvre", et le considère sans hésiter comme un très grand aventurier.
Ton projet est extrêmement intéressant, et mérite vraiment d'être tenté.
Il me semble possible.
Amicalement.
Merci pour ta réponse déniol.
D'apres ton experience mécaniquement le scooter tiendra le coup, la contrainte est plus physique et morale.
Quelles sont les pieces de rechange pour le scooter que je devrais prévoir pour ce parcours ?
"When I saw the Hoggar Mountains, my jaw dropped. If you think of Bryce, or Canyonlands National Park, you're close, but the Hoggar Mountains are more spectacular." David Ball, Empire of sands
Salut Voyageur1606,
moi je suis plus spécialiste mob que Scooter, mais je pense que oui le scooter peut tenir les 700km du périple.
Vu que tu t'y connais pas trop en mécanique, je pense que tu devrais faire réviser ton scooter par un pro et tu lui explique ton périple, et tu lui dit qu'il te le règle pour se périple, car sur un scooter en changeant les galet et le ressort moteur, on peu choisir de faire rouler plus vite son scooter ou le faire avoir plus d'accélération. Dans ton cas tu veut qu'il grimpe au arbre tu t'en fou de la vitesse de pointe.
Si ton scooter est bien réviser, emporte juste des galets de rechange (c'est pas lourd et sa prend pas de place). Le reste devrait tenir. Se qu'il faut c'est quand tu verra que ton scooter commencera a plus avancer en cote, a mouliner dans le vide, n'insiste pas arrête toi fait une pose de 45min, le temps que la bête refroidisse bien, et reprend la route, il aura plus de pèche a froid.
ET il faut que tu emporte des bougies, car le problème quand on monte en altitude c'est qu'il y a moins d'oxygène, se qui provoque une mauvaise explosion dans ton moteur et donc encrasse tes bougies (surtout après 2000m d'altitude).
Bonjour suite a vos messages que j'ai lus attentivement j'ai fait l'expérience avec un 50cm3 en scooter j'ai voyager ils faut prendre un 4 temps ses plus costaud mes plus costaud qu'une mobylettes je vais recommencer et racheter un scooter nitro mbk avec refroidissement liquide increvable rouler tranquillement je prend les petites routes secondaires pas de soucis fonce
Dans les années 1960 , avec ma mob , j'ai fait 400 kms dans la journée pour aller voir ma grand mère , du Val de Loire à l'Aveyron , avec les bagages ce n'est pas les Alpes mais la fiabilité était inférieur à aujourd'hui.
Fait faire une bonne révision avant de partir et fonce.......
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And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
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Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43)
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