Traverser l'Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Julie09400 · 17 April 2025 à 15:38 86 messages · 20 participants · 3 461 affichages | | | | À: Herodotos · 29 April 2025 à 9:57 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 61 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 419 affichages · Partager Hi Herodos,
It’s obvious that your trip, like all those who’ve been to Iran, was enthusiastic about the welcome you received. And yes, I mistakenly mixed it up with a previous post—my apologies.
Beyond that, it’s clear the Iranian people don’t deserve their leaders, and I think we all agree on that here.
As for the Iranian strikes and Israeli retaliation, that’s nothing new. Avoid camping near these centers (which are heavily monitored anyway—obviously). | | | À: Attila · 29 April 2025 à 10:07 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 62 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 417 affichages · Partager "What will happen to the traveler who entered at D-5?
D-5 could be today, could be tomorrow...
No one can predict the near future in a powder keg."
This has been your opinion from the start—you’re spreading fear about this country.
A revolution doesn’t start in all cities at once. There’s still time before this regime collapses. It won’t be tomorrow or even D-5... And if, by chance, there are and will be evacuation zones. Whether you’re reassured or not, Iran is still safe to visit today. | | | À: Herodotos · 29 April 2025 à 10:18 · Modifié le 29 Apr 2025 à 11:12 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 63 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 414 affichages · Partager Is Israel a country at war, or did I have a bad dream, or even a nightmare? Explain to us...
The war is in Gaza. Not in Israel. Don’t split hairs. That said, if you don’t like this country, that’s your right. | | | À: Tiger3 · 29 April 2025 à 12:09 · Modifié le 29 Apr 2025 à 13:14 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 64 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 379 affichages · Partager And if by chance, there are and will be exfiltration zones. Be reassured or not, but Iran is still safe to visit today.
Who’s talking about safety? From a security standpoint—regarding the risk of being assaulted—Iran is definitely much safer than France... My crossing through Iran isn’t recent, but I can assume that since my trip, the population hasn’t really changed, especially in terms of hospitality. I don’t know how you travel, but in my opinion, it’s hard in Iran to avoid the locals, the encounters, the conversations over tea, or even an invitation to someone’s home... Yet, you can’t read someone’s political views just by looking at their face... How many times (not just in Iran, but across the Middle East and West Africa) have I been stopped by the police... checking my papers, asking questions like, "What are you doing here at nightfall?" (I was the only foreigner in the neighborhood, chatting on the doorstep with a local I’d just met), "Show me your passport," or even "Follow me to the police station..."
What would happen in Iran if you talked to someone who isn’t exactly in line with the ruling party? In highly touristy countries, this kind of police questioning is rare or even nonexistent, but in places where tourists are scarce (which has been the case in Iran for a year or two), it *can* happen from time to time... Another example: At my age, this kind of incident is unlikely—I don’t travel the same way I used to. This happened in Jordan, in Aqaba on the Red Sea: I was looking for a youth hostel and followed the signs that were supposed to lead me there, but I ended up inside a military barracks! The guard at the entrance probably wasn’t doing his job very well, but there I was, inside without meaning to. Everything turned out fine at the time, but I can imagine the same scenario happening in Iran today... Without accidentally entering a strategic site, you could easily get close to one with a camera in hand... And you can guess what might happen next. Just because I’ve been to Iran many times without facing a single problem doesn’t mean it’s risk-free. | | | À: Lescs · 29 April 2025 à 13:22 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 65 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 362 affichages · Partager For what reasons?
Putin and his dream of a greater Russia.
The Azerbaijan/Armenia conflict.
It’s already more complicated to drive from Europe to Central Asia than it was before (war in Ukraine and its consequences). | | | À: Djalma · 29 April 2025 à 13:25 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 66 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 361 affichages · Partager Hi there,
I completely agree with your point.
Without unintentionally entering a strategic site, you can easily get close to one and find yourself with a camera in hand... You can imagine what happens next.
For example, the small town of Natanz, in Isfahan Province, is home to the very photogenic funerary complex of a Sufi sheikh, built in the 14th century. Of course, the place is well worth photographing, but... it’s best to avoid taking out your camera a few kilometers away if you don’t realize you’re right next to one of the country’s most sensitive nuclear sites! | | | À: Mitch341 · 29 April 2025 à 13:29 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 67 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 358 affichages · Partager For Israel, you’re pushing it a bit too far.
I went to Israel and Palestine over 20 years ago. It was almost like a honeymoon between the different parties in that conflict. No wall, not too many checkpoints, a sense that things were going to normalize.
I wouldn’t go today. I don’t want to be a collateral victim of the situation. I don’t want to visit a country at war, even if the war isn’t happening on its soil. The atmosphere must be oppressive. I don’t want to have my movements restricted either.
And why not keep the memory of a certain peace? | | | À: Tashidilé · 29 April 2025 à 13:36 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 68 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 350 affichages · Partager If you think adventure is dangerous, I suggest you try routine—you’ll quickly realize which one is DEADLY.
There’s a middle ground, isn’t there? 
The world still offers vast expanses to explore: South America, Southern Africa, Southeast Asia, Saudi Arabia (a novelty! Not all countries are closing up), Australia, Northern Europe, Morocco plus part of Mauritania, and Senegal...
Okay, apart from the last two, you’ll need to put the camper van on a boat. Or rent one there. | | | À: Tiger3 · 29 April 2025 à 13:38 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 69 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 348 affichages · Partager And if, by any chance, there are and will be extraction zones
This is far from the safe crossing asked about in the title of this thread... | | | À: Mitch341 · 29 April 2025 à 13:42 · Modifié le 29 Apr 2025 à 15:38 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 70 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 345 affichages · Partager After all, if you don’t like this country, that’s your right.
But who said I don’t like Israel? I love this country that invented the kibbutz—a great idea. I was devastated on October 7, 2023. Among the victims of those horrific massacres were members of these kibbutzim who were working for peace.
That said, I don’t like what this country has become or those who govern it.
Either way, even if the war (though that’s debatable...) isn’t on its soil, the country is at war. | | | À: Herodotos · 29 April 2025 à 17:22 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 71 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 312 affichages · Partager After all, if you don’t like this country, that’s your right.
But who says I don’t like Israel? I love this country that invented the kibbutz, a great idea. I was devastated on October 7, 2023. Among the victims of those heinous massacres were members of these kibbutzim who were working for peace.
However, I don’t like what this country has become or those who govern it.
Regardless, even if the war (though that’s debatable...) isn’t on its soil, the country is at war.
Unfortunately, the kibbutz was an idea that didn’t work and caused more problems than solutions. The kibbutzim represent a societal failure. Except for those who think otherwise, and that’s their right. The kibbutzim created the hardest part of this country: "Kibbutz children."
Then, if you don’t like what this country has become, that’s your right. The most annoying part is that you can’t open your eyes to the reasons that led to the change in society there, in Europe, and elsewhere.
Aren’t there plenty of people responsible for these shifts? Those who govern against your ideas didn’t seize power by force, did they? They were elected by the people, as far as I know.
To wrap up, the country has been at war since its creation on May 14, 1948. Nothing new under the sun. | | | À: Attila · 29 April 2025 à 17:26 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 72 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 310 affichages · Partager For Israel, you're going a bit too far.
I went to Israel and Palestine over 20 years ago. It was almost like a honeymoon between the different parties in this conflict. No wall, not too many checkpoints, a sense that things were going to normalize.
I wouldn’t go today. I don’t want to be a collateral victim of the situation. I don’t want to visit a country at war, even if the war isn’t happening on its soil. The atmosphere must be oppressive. I don’t want to be restricted in my movements either.
And why not keep the memory of a certain peace?
I was there 20 years ago too. There were already walls then. That said, I can understand your observations. Everyone has the right to their feelings. As for the restrictions on your movements, you’re mistaken. But it’s not a big deal. For the atmosphere, though, you’re wrong. You watch too much Western media.[/signature] | | | À: Mitch341 · 29 April 2025 à 17:53 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 73 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 300 affichages · Partager The wall started being built in 2002. My trip was before that.
Regarding restrictions on your movements, you're mistaken
I went to Jericho from Jerusalem: no restrictions at all.
Is it still the same today?
(The restriction mentioned was about traveling to Palestine from Israel)
As for the atmosphere, though, you're wrong. You watch too much Western media.
I don’t know. Aren’t there air raid sirens? To me, that’s not exactly a "vacation" vibe. | | | À: Attila · 29 April 2025 à 18:06 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 74 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 294 affichages · Partager The wall began to be built in 2002. My trip was before that.
Regarding the travel restrictions, you're mistaken
I went to Jericho from Jerusalem: no restrictions at all.
Is it still the same today?
(The restriction mentioned was about traveling to Palestine from Israel)
As for the atmosphere, though, you're wrong. You watch too much Western media.
I don’t know. Aren’t there air raid sirens?For me, that’s not exactly a "vacation" vibe.
To get to Jericho (which isn’t exactly a dream destination), the only restriction is catching the bus on time—nothing has changed. All destinations are accessible from the Damascus Gate bus station. Just take the right bus number.
As for the sirens, they don’t happen every day. But that’s just life in the country. There are also sirens for Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Anyway, I’m not trying to convince you—I’m just sticking to the facts. And while I’m not entirely objective, I admit, I’m trying to share good info. | | | À: Mitch341 · 29 April 2025 à 18:24 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 75 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 286 affichages · Partager I love discussions that go in circles, and I have to say this one is a real treat. And when the pseudo-trump-card argument "don’t listen to what Westerners say" comes up, I feel like I’m getting both cheese and dessert. So please, don’t stop! | | | À: Parigino · 29 April 2025 à 18:28 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 76 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 283 affichages · Partager Especially don’t stop 
Well, yeah, I am stopping. I’m not trying to convince those who are set in their ways anyway. Plus, the topic is about crossing Iran, right? At worst, just avoid Bandar Abbas... | | | À: Mitch341 · 29 April 2025 à 19:32 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 77 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 275 affichages · Partager it's your right
I sure do have a lot of rights!
The most annoying thing is that you can't open your eyes to the reasons that led to the change in society over there,
My eyes are wide open to what’s left of the fragmented territory of the West Bank after relentless and illegal colonization, as well as the treatment inflicted on local populations by violent settlers. Do I also have the right to find that unjust?
Those who govern (...) were elected by the people, it seems to me.
And it seems to me that the people would like to see the current head of government leave for reasons you know all too well.
To finish, the country has been at war since its creation on May 14, 194
Alas!
I was born two years before this state was created. Unfortunately, I won’t see peace there in my lifetime... 
But we’re getting off the original topic. | | | À: Herodotos · 29 April 2025 à 19:41 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 78 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 270 affichages · Partager it’s your right
I certainly have a lot of rights!
The most annoying thing is that you can’t open your eyes to the reasons that led to the change in society over there,
My eyes are wide open to see what’s left of the fragmented territory of the West Bank after relentless and illegal colonization, as well as the treatment inflicted on local populations by violent settlers. Do I also have the right to find that unjust?
Those who govern (...) were elected by the people, it seems to me.
And it seems to me that the people would like to see the current head of government leave for reasons you know all too well.
To finish, the country has been at war since its creation on May 14, 194
Alas!
I was born two years before this state was created. Unfortunately, I won’t see peace there in my lifetime... 
But we’re getting off the original topic.
Only part of the people. You don’t go there often enough to understand. It’s a shame.
You’re missing some on-the-ground perspective. Over there, the left, represented by the founders of the State of Israel, is losing its influence and voters. Like everywhere in the world, I’d say.
You’re right, we’re getting off topic. | | | À: Djalma · 29 April 2025 à 20:00 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 79 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 266 affichages · Partager Good evening Djalma (Jean Michel). Sorry about that... but so, what?  I’m leaving this discussion. Have a great evening. Thierry | | | À: Attila · 29 April 2025 à 20:04 Re: Traverser l' Iran vers le Pakistan est t-il sécurisé? Message 80 de 86 · Page 4 de 5 · 264 affichages · Partager "We're far from the safe crossing mentioned in this thread's title..."
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