j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
Trek de l'Alpamayo et de l'Huascarán (Pérou)
by NadineL
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
C'est sûr qu'en général il est conseillé de consacrer entre un et trois jours à s'acclimater. Et 3000m est une bonne altitude pour ça; c'est celle de Huaraz ou Cusco. Mais après, les 4600 m s'avalent sans difficulté le plus souvent. Le plus souvent parce qu'en fait, chacun réagit à sa manière.
Faites un beau voyage
Je n'ai pas le détail du trek mais : ce qui compte, c'est la différence d'altitude entre 2 nuits, pas l'altitude max de la journée. C'est quoi 4650 m, un col ou l'étape ? tour de l'Alpamayo, j'ai fait en autonome mais pas d'avis sur celui de zig zag si ce n'est que c'est un trek d'agence, normalement rodé et adapté au marcheur moyen pas entrainé donc a priori cool...
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Bonjour
merci de ta réponse, à priori c'est le col passé et j'ai justement fait un mail à zig zag pour leur demander d'exprimer l'altitude des camps. Il semblerait qu'entre temps ils aient commencé à revoir la fiche et réduit à 110 m la fameuse étape Pour toi un trekkeur moyen a les gambettes sufisamment solides pour le faire? merci de ton avis en tout cas
merci de ta réponse, à priori c'est le col passé et j'ai justement fait un mail à zig zag pour leur demander d'exprimer l'altitude des camps. Il semblerait qu'entre temps ils aient commencé à revoir la fiche et réduit à 110 m la fameuse étape Pour toi un trekkeur moyen a les gambettes sufisamment solides pour le faire? merci de ton avis en tout cas
Salut
J'ai fait ce trek en autonomie dans le sens inverse de celui proposé par Zig Zag et je vois bien de quelle montée il s'agit, je l'ai descendue 🙂. Le terme "Rude montée" employée sur la fiche technique du trek Zig Zag est bien choisi, lol 😏.
Qu'est ce qui te fait flipper exactement ? Les 1600m de dénivellés ? L'altitude ? L'acclimatation ?
L'acclimatation est bien le problème ici: de 3000 à 4600m, j'estime que c'est un peu n'importe quoi ... mais ça n'engage que moi. Et ce d'autant qu'il y'a au moins un bon campement intermédiaire avant d'arriver à la laguna Cullicocha...
Essaie peut être de voir si tu ne peux pas trouver le trek équivalent sur d'autres voyagistes, tu devrais pouvoir en trouver un avec une étape intermédiaire.
A+ Samuel
J'ai fait ce trek en autonomie dans le sens inverse de celui proposé par Zig Zag et je vois bien de quelle montée il s'agit, je l'ai descendue 🙂. Le terme "Rude montée" employée sur la fiche technique du trek Zig Zag est bien choisi, lol 😏.
Qu'est ce qui te fait flipper exactement ? Les 1600m de dénivellés ? L'altitude ? L'acclimatation ?
L'acclimatation est bien le problème ici: de 3000 à 4600m, j'estime que c'est un peu n'importe quoi ... mais ça n'engage que moi. Et ce d'autant qu'il y'a au moins un bon campement intermédiaire avant d'arriver à la laguna Cullicocha...
Essaie peut être de voir si tu ne peux pas trouver le trek équivalent sur d'autres voyagistes, tu devrais pouvoir en trouver un avec une étape intermédiaire.
A+ Samuel
ahhh ca me conforte dans l'idée que j'ai encore du bon sens!!! ce qui m'effraie c'est un dénivelé de 1600 sur une montée mortelle à une telle altitude...ce qui fait 3 contraintes en 1.
Pas trouvé d'autre T-O proposant le trek dans l'autre sens en avril. Si tu es mieux renseigné ta réponse sera la bienvenue
au fait pourquoi personne ne mentionne les caissons de décompression là bas? tous des trompe la mort ou bien?
NL
Ah oui en Avril.... normal, ça n'est vraiment pas la bonne saison !
T'es sûr que tu veux y aller en Avril ?
Si tu attends le mois de Juin par exemple, tu auras de bonnes chances d'avoir une meilleure météo, tu ne paieras pas le prix max des T-O et tu pourras ... choisir le T-O 😉.
Une autre option si tu ne pars pas seule et que vous etes un tant soi peu débrouillards: pleins de petites agences péruviennes peuvent organiser le trek comme vous le souhaitez à partir de 2 personnes.
A+ Samuel
PS: les caissons de décompression...ça ne sert pas à grand chose, le seul remède à un MAM sérieux étant la descente. Je considère les caissons comme un argument marketing des agences.
Une autre option si tu ne pars pas seule et que vous etes un tant soi peu débrouillards: pleins de petites agences péruviennes peuvent organiser le trek comme vous le souhaitez à partir de 2 personnes.
A+ Samuel
PS: les caissons de décompression...ça ne sert pas à grand chose, le seul remède à un MAM sérieux étant la descente. Je considère les caissons comme un argument marketing des agences.
J'ai regardé l'itineraire.
C'est effectivement une étape classique. Beaucoup d'agence l'effectuent ainsi et elle est aussi proposée dans ce sens par Vincent Geus dans son livre sur les treks au Pérou.
Personnellement j'avais choisi de faire la boucle dans l'autre sens.
Bon, c'est plutôt 1500 m de montée, mais direct. Tu ne porteras pas ton fourbi et tu auras eu 2 nuits pour t'accoutumer : c'est pas vraiment extrême. Si les voyageurs mourraient comme des mouches ils auraient changé d'itinéraire ou de sens 😉
Quant au "caisson de décompression", que j'appellerai plutôt "caisson hyperbare", ce n'est pas un moyen "normal" de progression ou d'accoutumance à l'altitude mais un élément éventuel d'une trousse de secours. Dans le cas présent, pas forcément nécessaire : si qqu'un est malade à la Laguna Cullicocha il peut redescendre très vite. Et si tu survis à la première étape, le reste de l'itinéraire passera tout seul...
Bon voyage quand même.
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
d"accord d'accord....la météo en avril ça donne quoi? Pluie? neige? plaques de verglas? si ce n'est qu'une question de degrés c'est un d'étail mais la pluie pas trop....même pas du tout
Personne ne mentionne de villages ou de zone habitée sur ces treks? c'est le no man's land? Idem Huayhuash
je veux voir beaux paysages et hameaux, bref de l'authentique, de la couleur, pas que du caillou. Bouteilles d'eau peuvent s'acheter sur le chemin ou bien on est condamné à ces maudites pastilles?
autre question? top five des treks au perou (au cas ou huascaran mis de côté) comparé aux treks de l'Equateur? merci
autre question? top five des treks au perou (au cas ou huascaran mis de côté) comparé aux treks de l'Equateur? merci
Avril = pluie 😉
Villages ? Pas de "vrai village" sur ce parcours. Quelques maisons, par exemple élévages de lamas et alpagas dans la plaine de Huillca. Ce n'est pas le no man's land absolu. Beaux paysages: pour la partie au nord de l'Alpamayo, yeessss !!! Beaux paysages en perspectives. Tu peux voir des photos ici: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=772940;#772940 (voir surtout les photos à la fin du récit "Tour de l'alpamayo"). Bouteilles d'eau qui s'achètent en chemin ? Niet. C'est soit pastilles, soit eau bouillie.
Top five des treks au Pérou ? Faudrait que je les aie tous faits pour avoir un avis pertinent sur la question. Quant à l'Equateur... connait pas.
A+ Samuel
Villages ? Pas de "vrai village" sur ce parcours. Quelques maisons, par exemple élévages de lamas et alpagas dans la plaine de Huillca. Ce n'est pas le no man's land absolu. Beaux paysages: pour la partie au nord de l'Alpamayo, yeessss !!! Beaux paysages en perspectives. Tu peux voir des photos ici: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=772940;#772940 (voir surtout les photos à la fin du récit "Tour de l'alpamayo"). Bouteilles d'eau qui s'achètent en chemin ? Niet. C'est soit pastilles, soit eau bouillie.
Top five des treks au Pérou ? Faudrait que je les aie tous faits pour avoir un avis pertinent sur la question. Quant à l'Equateur... connait pas.
A+ Samuel
Bonsoir
Pour la période mieux vaut faire ce trek après le 15 mai .... avant c'est + ou - de la pluie ...
Pour avoir fait le trek de Los Cedros (nord de l'Alpamayo)
pas de problème pour la montée après une acclimatation de 2-3 jours.
Pas de villages mais de l'eau partout dans les torrents: purifiée avec un filtre Katadyn.
La nuit il gèle sous la tente: donc prévoir un bon duvet .
C B
Je ne connais pas l'itineraire en question mais le trek Alpamayo Nord commence par une interminable montee en effet. Je n'ai pas la carte ici, mais cela monte plus de 2000 metres si je me souviens bien. Par contre, tu peux camper au milieu de la montee (au canal d'irrigation). Fin avril, oui c'est quand je lai fait moi, avantage je n'ai rencontre aucun autre touriste.
Salut Tichodrome, marrant je te pourchassais sur Google Earth et Panoramio de photo en photo 😉 et j'ai perdu ta trace avant le Portachuelo sur le flanc est de la Cordillère, je te retrouve ici 😮. Alors est-ce que tu pourrais m'en dire un peu plus sur cette partie de la Blanca ? 🙂
J'espère à bientôt
"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, n'essayez pas la routine, elle est mortelle !!"
Tu veux savoir quoi ?
Y'a le découpage de mes étapes et la trace GPS sur ma page web ; liens directs (ou presque) :
Trace GPS : http://obiou.fr/Photos/Gps/index.html
Etape par étape, cartes et photos : http://obiou.fr/Photos/070710Perou/index.html
A ta disposition pour plus de renseignements ; mais pas avant le w-e, je pars pour 2 jours.
Pierre
PS : j'ai eu un mail perso concernant également mes images dans Panoramio sur l'Alpamayo de a...g...@hotmail.com c'est toi ?
PS : j'ai eu un mail perso concernant également mes images dans Panoramio sur l'Alpamayo de a...g...@hotmail.com c'est toi ?
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
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Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Bonjour a tous,
je pars en voyage au Maroc en aout et nous allons commencer par nous arrêter a Chefchaouen(nous sommes en voiture).
Ma question: quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer un itinéraire de rando en boucle d'entre 5 et 7 jours aux départ de Chefchaouen dans le parc de Talassemtane passant si possible par le pont de dieux?Ou un guide papier qui en reunis quelques uns?
Nous privilégions le camping sauvage et les gites.
Merci d'avance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada





