Vaccins pour l'Indonésie, Thaïlande, Inde et Népal?
by Emi641
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut à tous!
Je reviens de chez le médecin de famille, auquel j'ai expliqué que je partais en indo, thailande, Inde et népal pendant environ 6 mois (😏😏😏). Il m'a répondu que le vaccin contre l'hépatite A était suffisant. Avec quelques cachet contre le palu, et roulez jeunesse! 🤪
Alors question : je préviens la famille qu'il faudrait penser à changer de toubib ou il a raison? Pour ceux qui y sont allé, et sans donner non plus dans la panique virale, que me conseillez vous au niveau des vaccins et autres traitements? Sachant qu'on y va après la saison des pluies, en novembre, et que mon copain a déjà le palu...
Merci d'avance de vos précieux conseils!!!🙂
Tu veux des avis, voici le mien : ton médecin de famille est de bon conseil.
Nous allons souvent en ASE du sud-est en famille et nous n'avons aucun vaccin particulier (je précise que ma femme est infirmière en hôpital).
Vérifie que le vaccin anti-tétanos est à jour, ce conseil étant valable en toutes circonstances.
Merci à tous!!!😉
Me voila rassurée. Je vous avoue que je préfère ça... Je nous voyais déjà criblés de trous et shootés tout l'été... 🤪
Ma soeur est partie l'an dernier avec un carnet de vaccins blindé, ça ne l'a pas empêché d'écourter son voyage à cause d'un microbe un peu trop tenace.
Après, c'est sur, plus qu'à faire un minimum attention, ne pas partir la parano chevillée à la tête, et se dire que petite courante, ça arrive même aux meilleurs!😊
Ma soeur est partie l'an dernier avec un carnet de vaccins blindé, ça ne l'a pas empêché d'écourter son voyage à cause d'un microbe un peu trop tenace.
Après, c'est sur, plus qu'à faire un minimum attention, ne pas partir la parano chevillée à la tête, et se dire que petite courante, ça arrive même aux meilleurs!😊
Bonjour, ben moi je suis allée voir un spécialiste des medecines tropicales pour les mêmes pays et il a dit: hépatite A + B (ok les avis sont partagés la dessus mais on ne va pas revenir sur le débat pour ou contre l'hépatite B, je te dis juste ce qu'il m'a dit 😉), DT Polio ( a verifier) Thyphoide (pas sure de l'écriture 🤪) et je crois que c'est tout. Et pas de traitement pour le palu, jsute une bonne protection... Après, chacun prend les infos qu'il veut la dedans, nous on ne respecte pas tout à la lettre mais bon... bon voyage 🙂
Je ne partage pas cette belle unanimité.
L’ Indonésie est vaste. Si Bali et Java ne présentent grosso modo aucun risque, Sulawesi, le Kalimantan et Irian Jaya sont, eux, des foyers d’ infection notoires. Naps pourrait nous en toucher quelques mots. (Bon rétablissement !) Le problème est : que prendre ? Il y a autant de prescriptions que de toubibs prescripteurs. Et il arrive que des voyageurs soient infectés malgré un traitement antipaludéen suivi à la lettre.
Personnellement, durant un voyage de deux mois en Indonésie en 2004, j’ai renoncé à Sulawesi et à Irian Jaya à cause du problème du paludisme.
Khaldoun
L’ Indonésie est vaste. Si Bali et Java ne présentent grosso modo aucun risque, Sulawesi, le Kalimantan et Irian Jaya sont, eux, des foyers d’ infection notoires. Naps pourrait nous en toucher quelques mots. (Bon rétablissement !) Le problème est : que prendre ? Il y a autant de prescriptions que de toubibs prescripteurs. Et il arrive que des voyageurs soient infectés malgré un traitement antipaludéen suivi à la lettre.
Personnellement, durant un voyage de deux mois en Indonésie en 2004, j’ai renoncé à Sulawesi et à Irian Jaya à cause du problème du paludisme.
Khaldoun
Ta contradiction est hors sujet malheureusement.
Naps a eu une sérieuse crise de palu et on parle de vaccins dans cette discussion, or emi641 a précisé dans son premier post "Avec quelques cachet contre le palu" et " mon copain a déjà le palu...".
Il n'existe pas de vaccin contre le paludisme, seulement des traitements préventifs et personne n'a émis d'avis sur ces traitements, seulement sur les vaccins.
Le toubib de départ affirme qu’il n’existe pas de vaccin contre le paludisme. Vous êtes alors unanimes ici pour dire bravo. Faut-il comprendre que ses collègues ont l’habitude de proposer un vaccin imaginaire? Evidemment que non. Aucun médecin n’affirme que ce vaccin existe. Le toubib de départ n’a donc rien dit d’extraordinaire.
Le toubib de départ n’indique aucun traitement antipaludéen. N’est-ce pas plutôt là que vous saluez sa sagesse et son bon sens ? L’idée sous-jacente est qu’aucun traitement n’est indispensable en ASE (considérée curieusement comme une entité homogène, comme si le Ladakh avait quoi que ce soit à voir avec Irian Jaya !). Il suffirait de quelques comprimés au cas où. C’est à cette attitude erronée (pour ne pas dire totalement inconsciente) que je n'adhère pas. Répétons le : Sulawesi, Kalimantan et Irian Jaya sont de très importants foyers d’infection. Un traitement antipaludéen est indispensable là-bas et c’est sa composition qui ne fait pas l’unanimité chez les toubibs.
Ceux qui affirment avoir été en ASE sans traitement antipaludéen et avec seulement quelques comprimés "au cas où" ont certainement visité le Kerala, le Ladakh, Phuket… mais n’ont pas posé les pieds dans les régions véritablement dangereuses.
Khaldoun
Le toubib de départ n’indique aucun traitement antipaludéen. N’est-ce pas plutôt là que vous saluez sa sagesse et son bon sens ? L’idée sous-jacente est qu’aucun traitement n’est indispensable en ASE (considérée curieusement comme une entité homogène, comme si le Ladakh avait quoi que ce soit à voir avec Irian Jaya !). Il suffirait de quelques comprimés au cas où. C’est à cette attitude erronée (pour ne pas dire totalement inconsciente) que je n'adhère pas. Répétons le : Sulawesi, Kalimantan et Irian Jaya sont de très importants foyers d’infection. Un traitement antipaludéen est indispensable là-bas et c’est sa composition qui ne fait pas l’unanimité chez les toubibs.
Ceux qui affirment avoir été en ASE sans traitement antipaludéen et avec seulement quelques comprimés "au cas où" ont certainement visité le Kerala, le Ladakh, Phuket… mais n’ont pas posé les pieds dans les régions véritablement dangereuses.
Khaldoun
Mais relis bien ce qui a été écrit, personne n'a parlé du traitement antipaludéen, mais des AUTRES vaccins nécessaires.
Emi641 et son copain partiront avec un traitement antipaludéen.
Je ne reconnais pas ta rigueur intellectuelle habituelle 😉
😏 Ça arrive aux meilleurs.
Sérieusement, il est question de traitements à l’ouverture de la discussion, et pas seulement de vaccins. Je répondais également à Pechet dont le toubib préconise une "bonne protection" sans plus. J’ai réagi à chaud enfin car un voyageur de mes connaissances a été infecté récemment à Irian Jaya.
Autant pour moi si tout cela fait un peu hors sujet. Bye.
Khaldoun
Sérieusement, il est question de traitements à l’ouverture de la discussion, et pas seulement de vaccins. Je répondais également à Pechet dont le toubib préconise une "bonne protection" sans plus. J’ai réagi à chaud enfin car un voyageur de mes connaissances a été infecté récemment à Irian Jaya.
Autant pour moi si tout cela fait un peu hors sujet. Bye.
Khaldoun
J’ai réagi à chaud enfin car un voyageur de mes connaissances a été infecté récemment à Irian Jaya.
Il semble que nous ayons des connaissances communes, son pseudo sur VF comporte 4 lettres, n'est-il pas ?
Il semble que nous ayons des connaissances communes, son pseudo sur VF comporte 4 lettres, n'est-il pas ?
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