Vallée des rois en Égypte: quelles tombes visiter?
by Ulysse54
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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parmi les tombes ouvertes actuellement : ramses 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, seti 2, amenhotep 2, tawsert, merneptah, tuthmosis 3, sapthah, ay quelles sont celles que vous recommanderiez pour une première visite?et pourquoi?
Par ailleurs y a t il des astuces pour l'ordre des visites afin d'éviter l'affluence (visite le matin)
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Bonjour, c'est peut etre bete ce que je vais te dire, mais ils faut toutes les visiter!!
Moi je me suis rendu 2 jours de suite pour pouvoir TOUT VOIR!
Si tu peux t'y rendre 2 fois, c'est ce que tu dois faire!
Toutes les tombes sont magnifiques, elles ont chacune leur particularité, leur énigme et leur charme. Lis de la documentation si tu peux avant, tes visites seront d'autant plus interressantes!
Bon séjour!
et la lumiere fut...
Salut Ulysse,
désolée de te décevoir ; mais tu ne pourras probablement pas visiter toutes les tombes que tu cites, et pour cause : Le ministère des antiquités organise une rotation sur l'ouverture/fermeture des tombeaux dans la vallée.
Seulement 8 à 10 tombes sont ouvertes ensemble et une rotation est faite dans les fermetures afin de les "faire sécher". Durée de fermeture aléatoire, dépendant de l'état de la tombe...et les plus belles et célèbres fermées au public pour préservation du patrimoine (Seti 1er, Horemheb, nefertari dans la vallée des reines ...) sauf si tu as la chance d'avoir un passe droit par ton status de ministre, roi, président en visite officielle !!
De plus, ton ticket te permettra de visiter seulement 3 tombes ( ils déchirent un morceau au fur et à mesure que tu entre dans les tombes) ; il te faudra donc achetter plusieurs tickets afin de pouvoir toutes les voir..en tout cas celle qui sont ouvertes. A savoir que La tombe de Ay se situe dans la vallée des singes (2km à pied en partant du parking de la vallée des rois) avec un billet d'entrée à part. De meme que tuthankhamon, billet séparé pour cette seule tombe.
désolée de te décevoir ; mais tu ne pourras probablement pas visiter toutes les tombes que tu cites, et pour cause : Le ministère des antiquités organise une rotation sur l'ouverture/fermeture des tombeaux dans la vallée.
Seulement 8 à 10 tombes sont ouvertes ensemble et une rotation est faite dans les fermetures afin de les "faire sécher". Durée de fermeture aléatoire, dépendant de l'état de la tombe...et les plus belles et célèbres fermées au public pour préservation du patrimoine (Seti 1er, Horemheb, nefertari dans la vallée des reines ...) sauf si tu as la chance d'avoir un passe droit par ton status de ministre, roi, président en visite officielle !!
De plus, ton ticket te permettra de visiter seulement 3 tombes ( ils déchirent un morceau au fur et à mesure que tu entre dans les tombes) ; il te faudra donc achetter plusieurs tickets afin de pouvoir toutes les voir..en tout cas celle qui sont ouvertes. A savoir que La tombe de Ay se situe dans la vallée des singes (2km à pied en partant du parking de la vallée des rois) avec un billet d'entrée à part. De meme que tuthankhamon, billet séparé pour cette seule tombe.
Katty
Si elles sont ouvertes, celle de Seti 1er, et celle de Ramses 9 ou 6 j'sais plus, avec la superbe déesse Nout au plafond...
La tombe de Nefertari est je confirme, d'une beauté exceptionnelle, on dirait qu'elle a été peinte la veille! Mais l'entrée est super cher si je ne me trompe...
La dernière fois, j'y suis allée par le temple d'hatchepsout, au dessus du temple un chemin qui mène à la vallée des rois, belle balade à faire en fin de matinée, arrivée à midi dans la vallée, les groupes sont partis manger... Pareil pour les pyramides et le musée, l'heure de midi est pour moi une bonne heure pour visiter à l'aise...🙂 (pas oublier le pic nic, ca coute cher sur les sites)
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Pas plus tard que la semaine dernière, la tombe de Ramsès VI et d'Amenhotep II étaient fermées. Celle de Néfertari est fermée depuis quelques années déjà, celle de Seti 1er aussi.
Si on visite trois tombes, ce que permet un ticket, le plus interessant est de choisir des tombes de rois de dynasties différentes, histoire de comparer les "styles" !
Pour ma part, en fonction de ce qui était ouvert, j'ai re-visité Toutmosis III, Ramsès I et Ramsès III, et, regagné Der-El-Bahari à pied !
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Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards




