4x4 Camper Van
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It's all in the title: I want to convert a van for traveling far, to places like Morocco, Tunisia, and Libya (among others!)

Indeed, 4x4 vehicles are too small and too conspicuous (and too expensive)

So I need a van with a 4x4 platform; but there are very few of them: a few Mercedes, the Citroën Jumper I think, and that's about it!

What can you recommend to me, knowing I can't spend too many dollars?

Thanks for your advice

See you soon
LA Laurent186 Veteran ·
Have you thought about military surplus?

I've already seen a military Berliet (it's a 6x6, that's even better) at the Touquet enduro with a caravan on its platform.

Military surplus: cheap, a used caravan: cheap. On the other hand, diesel consumption shouldn't be negligible, but in the countries you're planning to visit, diesel isn't expensive either so it all works out... 😉

Wait, I just thought of that—do you have a heavy vehicle license?
TO Toufiktoufik ·
Hey Laurent,

Actually, I'm looking for something more low-key, so I'm leaning more towards a 4x4 van that I'll set up myself using gear from Narb.....Access

Catch you later
BE Bernard59 Regular ·
Hi

Check out my website and you'll see a utility 4x4 that will be converted to a campervan starting next year. I can also tell you about other vehicles that might suit your needs. 😉

http://bernard.debucquoi.com/

Best regards, Bernard
CI Cirose ·
You're right,

you need to find a van with a 4x4 platform, or have specialists fit one.

Not straightforward.

I'm looking for exactly the same thing. I've seen some J5s or Boxers, for example. But they'd need fitting out afterward.
FL FloB Regular ·
Hello,

When it comes to being small, discreet, and efficient, I can't think of anything better than the Volkswagen Transporter syncro: the T2 model (T3 in Germany) discontinued in 1990. Small like a car: 4, 50 m long. Discreet like a plain van. Efficient like a 4x4. We spent 22 months in South America in a model like this. To learn everything about this vehicle:

http://familleautourdumonde.free.fr/amsu2002/pages/vwsyncro.html

Rémi explains from A to Z how he prepared it.

Today, the van is for sale: it's gotten too small for the four of us.

See you soon
EX Explo44Fogg Veteran ·
Hi,

Besides the VW Synchro which sadly is no longer available, there are: the Renault Master B90 4x4" the Bremach http://www.mamstrager.com/ and at Iveco the 'Dailly' http://www.scamtrucks.com/gbsc_sm.html

and then there's also the possibility of having 4x4 conversions done at Dangel for example, but that costs a fortune.

Personally, I chose a Mitsubishi 4x4 double-cab pickup with a removable living unit. and since this year, a new manufacturer offers small empty units that don't stick out past the pickup... Happy to help if you need more information.

I'm heading to Australia soon to rent a Toyota 4x4 van set up as a bush-camper, I'm going to check if this model is sold in Europe.

Cheers and happy to help

Jean-Marie
BE Bernard59 Regular ·
Hi, I find the pop-up camper on a pickup truck a bit cramped, especially for longer stays. That's why I went with the B90 4x4. Best regards, Bernard
EX Explo44Fogg Veteran ·
Hello Personally, I find the removable camper unit on the pickup a bit tight, especially for living in it for extended stays That's why I went with the B90 4x4 Best regards Bernard

Hello, It's all compromises depending on how you approach camper van living... Personally, I've already done a 3-month trip to the Baltic countries, Russia, Finland, Norway, and Iceland with 3 adults and we didn't have any space issues, because the pickup cabin can also serve as storage during stops...

And with the pickup alone and the camper unit left somewhere at a campsite, you can go almost anywhere! And for now the solution works for me, but we'll see when I upgrade.

Warmly and Happy New Year,

Jean-Marie
MO Moisdejuin ·
So I'm thinking about traveling in a campervan...

I'm wondering whether to go with a 4x4 or not??? I'm planning to go far: Morocco, different West African countries....

I've read some travel blogs from people who've done similar trips, and I noticed not everyone had a 4x4! So I figure it's doable. What would hold me back from getting a 4x4 is the extra mechanical issues that could come up, especially if the vehicle isn't brand new, the higher price (I assume), and 4x4 campervans are hard to find...

What do you think?
TO Toufiktoufik ·
There's also the Hyundai Satellite (4x4 people-carrier based on the older Mitsubishi Pajero)

good luck !
DD Dd69 ·
Hi...

For me, a 4x4 van is ideal for adventure travel—it's THE vehicle that gets you off the grid to remote sites, a bit off the beaten path.

So I'm looking for the same thing as you, and there are definitely topics we could discuss. But I'm mainly writing this to encourage anyone searching for their vehicle, because with a bit of time and maybe a bit of luck I managed to track down a B110 4x4 decommissioned from the CRS, which I hope to acquire soon and convert into a camper van.

A few search tips: In France, most vehicles of this type (B110/90, Iveco Dailly, Trafic, C17...) come from public sector sources like police, military, fire services, and EDF. You find them first at auctions, then with mechanics, sometimes specialists, who buy vehicles for next to nothing but without any information from the agencies (presumably maintenance and upkeep are high quality in the public sector anyway). The professional then ensures compliance (technical inspection) and in principle a complete overhaul and/or restoration. If you have the means and motivation to do everything yourself you can try auctions, but in the end I'm not sure the advantage is that significant. Especially since you'll have to deal with professionals who generally organize among themselves to make sure they secure the vehicles (watch out for bidding wars).

Otherwise, even rarer—Mercedes also produced vans or converted buses as 4x4s for Swiss, German, and Dutch armies, I think, in very limited series. At least in Europe, because in Africa and Asia these vehicles are very common. They're more robust than those from French brands, and in fact you find way more spare parts on those two continents. The rare models (in the 300–600 series) still available in Europe often end up going to Africa.

I don't know how many vehicles of this type from public sector sources are still in service in France, or in which regions, but I'd guess if there are any left it's mainly in mountainous areas. Auction sales happen primarily in the regions of origin, but not exclusively.

As for the B110 4x4, it's definitely quite rare—personally I've only seen two in my whole life, so I'm really hoping to land this one. I started with a Trafic semi 4x4 (reinforced chassis and rear axle locker, but no differential...) which took me to West Africa, which I'm now letting go of (interested buyers welcome) to soon acquire the rig I found—the one I needed for the next few years (2 projects, in Africa and Asia)—while I wait, maybe, for a bigger one down the road...

There you go, happy searching...

dd
DJ DJi69iJb ·
What about a Mercedes Unimog? It goes everywhere and the engine is pretty robust.
BE Bernard59 Regular ·
Good evening,

I forgot to mention an important detail—the dog! A Leonberger (cousin of the Saint Bernard, Newfoundland, etc.), which is why I think the living spaces on pickup campers are pretty small. When you said that everything is just a matter of compromise depending on how we do our RV camping... well, I completely agree! "No RV without my dog" and my wife, of course!

Bernard59
BE Bernard59 Regular ·
Hello all,

There is currently in Haute-Savoie a Renault B110 4x4 camper van for sale: http://bernard.debucquoi.com/annonces.php

Regards,

Bernard.
DD Dd69 ·
Hey... I just stumbled across this listing by chance for a Citroën J5 converted to 4x4 by Dangel. The price is a bit steep, but it's definitely worth it for anyone with the budget. This van's a really good compromise—if I had the cash on hand, I'd probably jump on it, but hey...

here's the link

http://www.321auto.com/consultation_annonce/PEUGEOT/J5/32197341.asp
BA Bastien59 ·
Hi everyone,

On February 2nd, at an auction there will be small 4x4 trucks (under 3.5t normally)

BREMACH GR 35V DIESEL TRUCK BED 48000 km 06.06.91 BREMACH BRIO 3.5 TRI-BED DIESEL 47000 km 16.06.94 BREMACH BRIO 3.5 TRI-BED DIESEL 37000 km 31.03.94 BREMACH GR TRUCK BED WITH CRANE 200000 km 05.08.93

Website: http://www.cevep.com/vente.php?id=296

Regards, Sébastien.
BE Bernard59 Regular ·
A new camper van for sale on my site 😉 http://bernard.debucquoi.com Best regards, Bernard
SY Sylste01 ·
Hello everyone,

First of all, this is a really interesting site for B90 4x4 enthusiasts—congratulations.

I'm also looking for a B90 or B110 4x4 panel van to convert. This beast is very hard to find, so I'm reaching out to everyone to increase my chances........😉

Any information is helpful—docs, photos, listings, contacts, etc.

Thanks in advance.

@+

SYLSTE 01
BA Bastien59 ·
Hi Syliste01

On the website http://interencheres.com/, there's a mailing list that sometimes includes vehicle listings for sale.

Sébastien😎

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