Agence ou guide pour les dunes de Chegaga et les gorges du Dades? (Maroc)
by Artemis4
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
qui peut m'indiquer une agence ou un guide pas cher pour une virée de 5 jours 4 nuit dans le desert et les gorges du dades
merci à tous de votre reponse
je ne connais personne pour les dunes de chegaga mais si tu veux aller dans le désert, vas à merzouga et au pied des dunes, tu vas à l'hôtel-restaurant "la maison rurale" chez M'BARAK, au pied des dunes. Lui te trouvera quelqu'un pour t'accompagner dans les dunes de MERZOUGA et même y faire un bivouac ue tu n'oublieras pas. Et pour les gorges du Dades, tu trouveras sans problème un guide sur place, mais franchement, sans guide, tu les découvriras de la même manière et selon ton rythme.
Je pense que sur le Net, tu trouveras ce que tu cherches.
KATOCHMAN
à mon avis, mais ça n'engage que moi, c'est plus sympa à Merzouga. Les dunes de Chegaga sont beaucoup plus au Sud, et donc loin de Boulmane dadès. mais ça vaut le coup aussi.
et Puis, en allant de Merzouga à Boulmane dadès, tu passes à côté d'autres gorges, celles du Todra. Celles là aussi sont à voir, c'est grandiose et somptueux.
Alors, fais ton choix, mais tu ne seras pas déçu, quoi que tu choisisses.
KATOCHMAN
bonjour
je vais faire les gorges du dades et todra + merzouga 4 ou 5 jours début octobre( vers le 8) et je suis avec mon ami bèrbère qui est guide. Pourquoi pas s'accorder pour faire un bout de chemin ensemble si tu es ok pour partager frais d'essence ou si tu es déjà véhiculée je participe. Si tu veux me contacter mon adresse: bribrougiuliani@hotmail.fr
Brigitte
je vais faire les gorges du dades et todra + merzouga 4 ou 5 jours début octobre( vers le 8) et je suis avec mon ami bèrbère qui est guide. Pourquoi pas s'accorder pour faire un bout de chemin ensemble si tu es ok pour partager frais d'essence ou si tu es déjà véhiculée je participe. Si tu veux me contacter mon adresse: bribrougiuliani@hotmail.fr
Brigitte
bribrou
Bonjour,
je te communique le lien vers le site internet d'un guide avec lequel j'ai effectué un trek l'année passée dans L'Atlas. Je sais qu'il propose également des méharées du côté de chegaga, prends contact avec lui pour proposition de tarifs si vous êtes déjà un groupe constitué de 5 personnes cela devrait être interessant. www.trekomaroc.com
bon courage dans tes recherches. rose
je te communique le lien vers le site internet d'un guide avec lequel j'ai effectué un trek l'année passée dans L'Atlas. Je sais qu'il propose également des méharées du côté de chegaga, prends contact avec lui pour proposition de tarifs si vous êtes déjà un groupe constitué de 5 personnes cela devrait être interessant. www.trekomaroc.com
bon courage dans tes recherches. rose
Salut...
si en allant vers le désert tu prends la route de marrakech, arrête toi à ait ben haddou... petit bout de paradis où il te faudra chercher Jawad et son gimbri (souvent à l'entrée de la kasbah)... il peut vous servir de guide pas trop cher pour les place où vous voulez aller...
bon voyage !!
si en allant vers le désert tu prends la route de marrakech, arrête toi à ait ben haddou... petit bout de paradis où il te faudra chercher Jawad et son gimbri (souvent à l'entrée de la kasbah)... il peut vous servir de guide pas trop cher pour les place où vous voulez aller...
bon voyage !!
natchapacha
moi franchement je prefere chegaga a Merzouga (pour moi Merzouga n'est qu'une grosse dune...). A Erg Chegaga c'est différent, tu vois le désert à perte de vue, c'est carrément dépaysant.
Pour se rendre a Chegaga, va directement à Zagora et renseigne toi auprès de la Caravane du Sud ( ils ont un site internet )qui organise excursions, treks, nuits dans le désert.... C'est pas trop cher... A ton retour, arrete toi au riad lamane (un endroit paradisiaque au coeur de la palmeraie de zagora... x'est indispensable après quelques jours dans le désert!!!!) Moi j'y vais 2 ou 3 fois par an....
sylvie
sylvie
Bonjour,
Les dunes de Chgaga sont très superbes, plus grandioses et plus "sauvages" et valent mieux d'y aller! vous pouvez faire ça en vous contactant n'importe quel guide depuis Ouarzazate, Zagora ou en arrivant à M'hamid dernier village avant le grand désert et le point de départ vers les grands dunes de Chgaga!
Tous les guides sur place (à M'hamid) Connaissent Chgaga comme leurs poches car c'est leur territoir et tous disposent de petites agences ou sont autonomes mais tous peuvent vous proposer y aller en 4x4, en méharée ou conjuguer véhicule T.T et dromadaires, trekking ou n'importe quelle formule. ce ne sont pas les idées ou la folie qui manquent! La forte proposition : un forfait qui rassemble rando en 4x4, promenade en dromadaire (+ou- longue selon votre choix) et nuit en bivouac (sous Khaima nomade). les prix sont presque identiques entre tous les guides depuis M'hamid et ils sont les min car c'est le point le plus court (incountournable) pour aller à Chgaga.
Sur place (à M'hamid), de nuit ou de jour, vous aurez l'embarras de choisir entre les propositions qui sont "la même" avec des visages différent! choisissez donc le guide (ça grouille de guides à M'hamid) qui vous paraîtra - à vous- sympa et sûr de lui et il va vous satisfaire!
Je peux vous proposer des noms si vous tenez bien à le savoir, mais je peux vous révélez un astuce (les guides se rivalisent là-bas farouchement - pour le bien des touristes- et c'est de l'humiliation et le non professionnalisme à haute voix si quelqu'un d'eux laisse partir un client mécontent!)
Il n y'a qu'un seul Devoir dans la vie, c'est d'être Heureux!!!
khaliltours@gmail.com
Salut!!
Pour ta question de base, je te répond, haut, fort et avec conviction: Eric, un gars d'une quarantaine d'année, qui a monté depuis quelques années son auberge (excellente et pas cher du tt: familiale et tradi a la fois: que du bonheur!!): il te fera découvrir le coin pour pas cher, tu tripperas, c'est sûr!! L'une des plus belles rencontres tant culturelle qu'humaine ( malgré le fait qu'il soit francais et que c'est vraiment pas ce qu'on venait chercher en voyageant en Afrique!!...). Pour le choper, je te passe ses coordonnées perso si tu veux. Sinon, plus vaguement, il tient l'auberge Marabout, au km 20 près de Boulemane Dadès. Vas y de ma part!!
Titemu, qui te souhaite de rendre heureux tous les gens que tu croiseras, quels qu'ils soient!
* *** ..... contactant n'importe quel guide depuis Ouarzazate, Zagora ou en arrivant à M'hamid dernier village avant le grand désert ...... *****
Le problème, c'est que c'est eux qui contactent, et pas vous, et que sur les trottoirs de Ouarzazate, rue piétonne autour du souk, à Zagora, sur toute l'avenue, et ensuite sur toute la route avec meme des queues de poisson dans Tagounite et ensuite, les rabatteurs sont omniprésent, collants et souvent agressifs, .
***** les guides se rivalisent là-bas farouchement - pour le bien des touristes- ****
pour le bien des touristes ??? Des touristes, j'en ai vu plusieurs faire demi tour devant ce harcèlement, la rivalité va même jusqu'aux bagarres! et à part quelques rares établissements très chers (et encore) les prestations peinent à etre à la hauteur!
Et maintenant les rabatteurs sont sur tous les forums !!!!!!!!!!
Le problème, c'est que c'est eux qui contactent, et pas vous, et que sur les trottoirs de Ouarzazate, rue piétonne autour du souk, à Zagora, sur toute l'avenue, et ensuite sur toute la route avec meme des queues de poisson dans Tagounite et ensuite, les rabatteurs sont omniprésent, collants et souvent agressifs, .
***** les guides se rivalisent là-bas farouchement - pour le bien des touristes- ****
pour le bien des touristes ??? Des touristes, j'en ai vu plusieurs faire demi tour devant ce harcèlement, la rivalité va même jusqu'aux bagarres! et à part quelques rares établissements très chers (et encore) les prestations peinent à etre à la hauteur!
Et maintenant les rabatteurs sont sur tous les forums !!!!!!!!!!
pourquoi chercher de l'europe ce que de toute facon tu trouveras au maroc et as la pelle????? rend toi as M'hamid les guides te sauterons dessus pour te proposer leur service, il ne te resteras plus qu'as discuter du prix et des prestations .amitié voyageuse
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2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards