Les billets de 500 et 1 000 roupies (indiennes) ne sont plus valables
by Stalingrad
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
L'hôtel où je me trouve (à Mahabalipuram) vient de refuser le paiement de notre dîner (nous sommes 8) avec des billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies, car nous dit-il, le gouvernement indien vient subitement de décider qu'il faut aller les changer à la banque pour d'autres billets. Les ATM seront fermés pendant 1 ou 2 jours, demain les banques indiennes sont fermées. Bref on ne pourra plus payer momentanément qu'avec des billets de 100 roupies et moins (et avec sa carte bleue). Quant aux billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies on a un délai pour les changer à la banque (je ne sais plus quel est la date limite). Cette information aussi énorme qu'inattendue vient d'être confirmée par mes amis indiens. Motivation du gouvernement : faire sortir des bas de laine le "black money". Information confirmée dans la presse indienne
www.ndtv.com/...ight-at-8-pm-1622948
A priori je recommanderais aux touristes la plus extreme prudence et de suivre la situation en continu dans la presse indienne. Je ne vois pas trop comment plus d'un miliard d'Indiens vont changer leurs billets dans les prochains jours (l'Inde est un pays ou le cash regne ou plutot regnait) sans que cela genere d'enormes attroupements devant les banques, voire des emeutes et de la violence.
Avant minuit, mes amis indiens ont réussi à retirer plusieurs milliers de roupies en billets de 100 roupies sur plusieurs ATM, par paquets de 400 roupies (impossible de retirer plus à la fois). Il y avait de longues queues aux ATM mais pour l'instant pas de chahut. Je pense que les ATM seront à nouveau approvisionnés en nouveaux billets de 500 roupies et en billets de 2000 roupies dans quelques jours. http://www.tdg.ch/monde/coupures-500-1000-roupies-retirees/story/31474629
Pourquoi l'un des buts apparents de la bureaucratie indienne est-il de créer du chaos là où il n'y en a pas auparavant ?
Alexander Frater - A la poursuite de la mousson (1991)




"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Même si la décision surprise du gouvernement de Modi va être gênante momentanément, elle est courageuse politiquement parlant, car elle va obliger les partis politiques, les particuliers, les entreprises qui ont accumulé du "black money" en liquide de l'apporter à la banque, donc de le déclarer, donc de payer des impôts. D'ailleurs aucun parti ni responsable politique ne proteste ce matin, sinon il se désignerait à l'opinion indienne comme détenteur de "black money". 🙂
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/rs-500-rs-1000-currency-notes-to-be-out-of-circulation-from-midnight/article9320594.ece?homepage=true
Je suis d'accord avec toi et ma citation d'Alexander Frater n'était guère appropriée. Quoique le côté chaos risque bien d'être là.
Il va donc rester les coupures de 100rs c'est à dire (pas loin d') ... un Euro !!!
En Chine ils n'ont jamais émis de coupures supérieures à 100 Yuan (environ 10 Euro)
En Europe on se dirige vers la suppression des coupures de 200 Euro et de 500 Euro pour ne garder que celle de 100 Euro. Comme aux USA, 100 $.
Ce qui nous fait une gradation de :
- Inde : 1 euro - Chine : 10 Euro - Europe/USA : 100 Euro/$
PS la première photo de mon message précédent, a été prise à la sortie d'un magasin de vente d'alcool à Pudukkottai (Tamil Nadu) en Janvier 2013
Il va donc rester les coupures de 100rs c'est à dire (pas loin d') ... un Euro !!!
En Chine ils n'ont jamais émis de coupures supérieures à 100 Yuan (environ 10 Euro)
En Europe on se dirige vers la suppression des coupures de 200 Euro et de 500 Euro pour ne garder que celle de 100 Euro. Comme aux USA, 100 $.
Ce qui nous fait une gradation de :
- Inde : 1 euro - Chine : 10 Euro - Europe/USA : 100 Euro/$
PS la première photo de mon message précédent, a été prise à la sortie d'un magasin de vente d'alcool à Pudukkottai (Tamil Nadu) en Janvier 2013
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Super nouvelle... Il me reste une centaine d'euros en billets de 1000rs... 😠
Ça m'apprendra à être prévoyante.
"Au moins une fois par an, ou aussi souvent que possible, allez quelque part où vous n’êtes jamais allé auparavant." Dalai Lama
Tu as jusqu'au 31 décembre pour les apporter et les changer dans une banque indienne. 🤪
L'Inde va retirer les coupures de 500 et 1.000 roupies pour lutter contre la corruption /8 novembre 2016
Publié le mardi 08 novembre 2016 à 20h52 à NEW DELHI (IND) Le Premier ministre indien Narendra Modi a annoncé mardi que les coupures de 500 et 1.000 roupies (6,8 et 13,6 euros) seront retirées de la circulation à minuit afin de lutter contre la corruption. Il a précisé que cette initiative visait également à couper le financement de groupes extrémistes du Pakistan qui mènent des attaques en Inde, affirmant que "des ennemis provenant de l'autre côté de la frontière" finançaient leurs activités par la production de fausses coupures. Selon le gouvernement, il y a eu une hausse anormale du nombre de fausses coupures de 500 et 1.000 roupies durant ces cinq dernières années. "Pour lutter contre la corruption et le blanchiment, nous avons décidé que les coupures de 500 roupies (environ 7 euros) et 1.000 roupies (14 euros environ) actuellement en cours ne seront plus valables à partir de du 8 novembre 2016 à minuit", a déclaré le Premier ministre dans une annonce choc à la télévision. "Ceci veut dire que ces billets ne seront plus acceptés dans les transactions à partir de minuit". Et les banques et les distributeurs seront fermés mercredi et jeudi dans le cadre de cette opération. M. Modi a précisé que le public pourra toujours échanger les coupures contre de nouveaux billets auprès des banques jusqu'à la fin de l'année. Il a également indiqué que de nouvelles coupures de 500 et 2.000 roupies seront émises plus tard par la Banque centrale indienne, sans plus de précisions, d'autres membres des autorités indiquant qu'elles seraient en circulation dès jeudi.
Quant aux billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies on a un délai pour les changer à la banque (je ne sais plus quel est la date limite). Cette information aussi énorme qu'inattendue vient d'être confirmée par mes amis indiens. Motivation du gouvernement : faire sortir des bas de laine le "black money". Information confirmée dans la presse indienne
www.ndtv.com/...ight-at-8-pm-1622948
Bonjour Alain, Merci de cette précieuse info qui vient bien à point en ce qui me concerne. J'ai 13000 roupies qui me restent de mon voyage de cet été. Peux-tu te renseigner pour le délai pour changer ces billets ? J'avais eu ce problème il y a quelques années avec des billets de 1000 au moment de payer dans un supermarché, mais il ne s'agissait que d'une série numérotée. C'est un nouveau coup vache pour les personnes aux petits revenus qui ne mettent pas leur argent à la banque tout simplement parce que c'est tout un cirque et des heures de queue perdues chaque fois qu'ils ont besoin d'un peu d'argent.
Bonjour Alain, Merci de cette précieuse info qui vient bien à point en ce qui me concerne. J'ai 13000 roupies qui me restent de mon voyage de cet été. Peux-tu te renseigner pour le délai pour changer ces billets ? J'avais eu ce problème il y a quelques années avec des billets de 1000 au moment de payer dans un supermarché, mais il ne s'agissait que d'une série numérotée. C'est un nouveau coup vache pour les personnes aux petits revenus qui ne mettent pas leur argent à la banque tout simplement parce que c'est tout un cirque et des heures de queue perdues chaque fois qu'ils ont besoin d'un peu d'argent.
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Même si la décision surprise du gouvernement de Modi va être gênante momentanément, elle est courageuse politiquement parlant
Décidément, il te plaît bien ce Modi...
les particuliers, les entreprises qui ont accumulé du "black money" en liquide de l'apporter à la banque, donc de le déclarer, donc de payer des impôts.
En effet, tous les patrons de restaurants, guesthouses, les chauffeurs de taxi qui refusaient tout paiement autre que du liquide... Mais comme je l'ai dit déjà, ça va toucher des pauvres qui n'avaient pas de grandes facilités pour mettre leur menues économies à la banque.
Décidément, il te plaît bien ce Modi...
les particuliers, les entreprises qui ont accumulé du "black money" en liquide de l'apporter à la banque, donc de le déclarer, donc de payer des impôts.
En effet, tous les patrons de restaurants, guesthouses, les chauffeurs de taxi qui refusaient tout paiement autre que du liquide... Mais comme je l'ai dit déjà, ça va toucher des pauvres qui n'avaient pas de grandes facilités pour mettre leur menues économies à la banque.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonjour Marien, je lis toujours avec gourmandise ton feuilleton dans l'Himalaya. 🙂
Ce matin à Mahabalipuram, je suis allé acheter 3 bricoles à l'échoppe d'à côté et j'ai plaisanté avec le vendeur (la soixantaine, un monsieur tamoul pas riche mais qui tient bien son petit business) en lui proposant de le payer avec un billet de 500 (impossible car cet argent n'a plus cours) et en comparant quelques expressions que je connais en malayalam avec leur équivalent en tamoul (ça amuse toujours les indiens que je sache quelques bribes de malayalam 😇). Et il me fait clairement comprendre que Modi a pris une bonne décision. C'est aussi ce que me disent mes amis d'Alleppey car pour eux tous les partis politiques, et d'autres gros bonnets ont accumulé beaucoup de "black money" et vont être obligés de le déclarer en l'apportant à la banque, donc de payer des impôts. Idem les réceptionnistes de mon hôtel qui me disent que pour le business Modi fait du bon boulot, mais seulement pour le business, sous entendu pas pour les affaires religieuses et tout ce qui tourne autour.
Au fait Marien, j'espère que tu n'a pas conservé trop de billets de 500 ou de 1000 après ton dernier voyage en Inde, ou bien que tu y reviendras avant la fin de l'année pour les changer avec de la nouvelle monnaie 🙂
Bonjour Marien, je lis toujours avec gourmandise ton feuilleton dans l'Himalaya. 🙂
Merci ça fait toujours plaisir de savoir qu'on est lu surtout "avec gourmandise "!!!
Au fait Marien, j'espère que tu n'a pas conservé trop de billets de 500 ou de 1000 après ton dernier voyage en Inde, ou bien que tu y reviendras avant la fin de l'année pour les changer avec de la nouvelle monnaie 🙂
Ben si justement, c'est ce que je te disais un peu plus haut. Tu n'as pas vu ? Je viens de compter 5 x 1000 et 15 x 500. Je pars dans presque deux semaines. Je serai à Kannur le 28 novembre.
Merci ça fait toujours plaisir de savoir qu'on est lu surtout "avec gourmandise "!!!
Au fait Marien, j'espère que tu n'a pas conservé trop de billets de 500 ou de 1000 après ton dernier voyage en Inde, ou bien que tu y reviendras avant la fin de l'année pour les changer avec de la nouvelle monnaie 🙂
Ben si justement, c'est ce que je te disais un peu plus haut. Tu n'as pas vu ? Je viens de compter 5 x 1000 et 15 x 500. Je pars dans presque deux semaines. Je serai à Kannur le 28 novembre.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Un article sur le sujet indiquant notamment que les choses devraient "rentrer dans l'ordre" le 24 novembre 2016 à minuit.
http://www.tourmag.com/Inde-billets-de-500-et-1-000-roupies-retires-de-la-circulation_a83927.html
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Un article sur le sujet indiquant notamment que les choses devraient "rentrer dans l'ordre" le 24 novembre 2016 à minuit.
www.tourmag.com/...culation_a83927.html
L'article parle d'une date limite au 24 novembre pour échanger les billets. Stalingrad qui est sur place indique le 31 décembre. Alors qu'en est-il vraiment ?
L'article parle d'une date limite au 24 novembre pour échanger les billets. Stalingrad qui est sur place indique le 31 décembre. Alors qu'en est-il vraiment ?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonjour,
La date limite pour échanger est-elle le 24 novembre comme l'indiquent les canadiens ou bien le 31 décembre comme tu le disais ? Par ailleurs l'article de voyage forum parle d'une limite de 5000 roupies. C'est dire que je vais en perdre 8000 ?
Merci si tu as plus de précisions
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Je ne comprends pas la mise en circulation de billest de 2000 roupies alors que déjà quand on en sortait un de 1000 c'était la panique : no change, sir !!!
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Tu trouveras les conditions pour changer les anciens billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies dans la presse indienne, par exemple ici : http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/what-to-do-with-notes-of-rs-500-and-rs-1000-1622963
En clair :
- tu peux changer les billets jusqu'au 24 novembre
- tu peux aussi les déposer sur un compte en banque jusqu'au 30 décembre.
Quant à l'utilité des billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies (bientôt de 2000 roupies), toute la classe moyenne indienne utilise fréquemment ces billets. Quand on voyage en Inde, pour payer un chambre de classe moyenne c'est à dire entre 1500 et 3000 roupies, on utilise en général des billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies, idem pour faire le plein d'essence de la voiture, etc. (en ce moment je suis obligé d'utiliser des liasses de 1000 roupies, et c'est un peu "galère").
Quant à l'utilité des billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies (bientôt de 2000 roupies), toute la classe moyenne indienne utilise fréquemment ces billets. Quand on voyage en Inde, pour payer un chambre de classe moyenne c'est à dire entre 1500 et 3000 roupies, on utilise en général des billets de 500 et de 1000 roupies, idem pour faire le plein d'essence de la voiture, etc. (en ce moment je suis obligé d'utiliser des liasses de 1000 roupies, et c'est un peu "galère").
Quand on voyage en Inde, pour payer un chambre de classe moyenne c'est à dire entre 1500 et 3000 roupies
Bon si pour toi 1500 à 3000 roupies c'est une chambre de classe moyenne, alors... Il y a quelques semaines je me suis fait agresser ici sur VF parce que je disais qu'on ne trouve plus de chambres "correctes" pour moins de 1000 roupies...
Bon si pour toi 1500 à 3000 roupies c'est une chambre de classe moyenne, alors... Il y a quelques semaines je me suis fait agresser ici sur VF parce que je disais qu'on ne trouve plus de chambres "correctes" pour moins de 1000 roupies...
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Tout est relatif, tu le sais bien. Et même si les chambres où je séjourne ne coûtaient que 500 ou 1000 roupies, je serais bien content de les payer avec des billets de 500 au lieu de me trimballer avec des liasses de 100 comme je dois le faire actuellement 😕
ma citation d'Alexander Frater n'était guère appropriée
disais-je 😛
En fait elle l'est tout à fait, appropriée 🤪
Pourquoi l'un des buts apparents de la bureaucratie indienne est-il de créer du chaos là où il n'y en a pas auparavant ? Alexander Frater - A la poursuite de la mousson (1991)
J'avais répondu trop vite mais j'avais comme une sorte de ... "préscience".
Mais on va me dire qu'avec l'Inde il faut s'attendre à tout; ce pays qui soigne le mal par ... encore plus de mal; ce pays en voie de sous-développement. (mais n'oublions pas de regarder aussi la poutre que nous avons dans notre propre oeil 🤪)

disais-je 😛
En fait elle l'est tout à fait, appropriée 🤪
Pourquoi l'un des buts apparents de la bureaucratie indienne est-il de créer du chaos là où il n'y en a pas auparavant ? Alexander Frater - A la poursuite de la mousson (1991)
J'avais répondu trop vite mais j'avais comme une sorte de ... "préscience".
Mais on va me dire qu'avec l'Inde il faut s'attendre à tout; ce pays qui soigne le mal par ... encore plus de mal; ce pays en voie de sous-développement. (mais n'oublions pas de regarder aussi la poutre que nous avons dans notre propre oeil 🤪)

"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bonjour,
ma citation d'Alexander Frater n'était guère appropriée
disais-je 😛
En fait elle l'est tout à fait, appropriée 🤪
Oui je l'avais trouvée tout à fait bienvenue et appropriée et je n'ai pas compris pourquoi dans le message suivant tu disais qu'elle ne l'était pas...
ma citation d'Alexander Frater n'était guère appropriée
disais-je 😛
En fait elle l'est tout à fait, appropriée 🤪
Oui je l'avais trouvée tout à fait bienvenue et appropriée et je n'ai pas compris pourquoi dans le message suivant tu disais qu'elle ne l'était pas...
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
A tout hasard, pour ceux que ça peut intéresser je publie le mail que je viens de recevoir.
We can change money up to November 24th, that is short time. But we can put money in account up to December 30th. All is complicated. I can put your currency in my account and then give you back with new currency. It is very sudden action from Government. They have been planning about that secretly for several months and secretly they have made new currencies of 500 and 2000. It is government trick to stop fake notes and black money. Fake notes are big problem in India and the black money is worst. Lots of corruptions here and most of the political leaders has million and millions of black moneys in hidden places of their property, in tanks and undergrounds and so on. They cannot change the money because they cannot show the source of the money. Those moneys are completely waste and after the period of change they can give the huge amount of currency to theyyam to make fire. Anyway it is very good decision from government even if people have some difficulties for trade for a few days. Now it is very difficult for people. They are fighting at every office and Market. You can guess at bla bla market now bla bla sure three times double. No business and all streets looks almost strike day. At Bank there are long queue and ATM don't work. The Bank says ATM will work since tomorrow and it would be long queue at ATM for a few days. Anyway I am happy about it, because many corrupted money will be buried and they cannot use especially for political leaders. During the Congress period they planned the same idea but all political leaders protested including Kerala communist party and Indian Industrial Mafias also, because all black moneys were held by Congress leaders, CPM and Industrial mafias. That is why Congress government nothing did to stop black money. Now it is some difficult for people, but it is OK. The difficulties hasn't affect for poor people, only middle class and rich people has problems.
We can change money up to November 24th, that is short time. But we can put money in account up to December 30th. All is complicated. I can put your currency in my account and then give you back with new currency. It is very sudden action from Government. They have been planning about that secretly for several months and secretly they have made new currencies of 500 and 2000. It is government trick to stop fake notes and black money. Fake notes are big problem in India and the black money is worst. Lots of corruptions here and most of the political leaders has million and millions of black moneys in hidden places of their property, in tanks and undergrounds and so on. They cannot change the money because they cannot show the source of the money. Those moneys are completely waste and after the period of change they can give the huge amount of currency to theyyam to make fire. Anyway it is very good decision from government even if people have some difficulties for trade for a few days. Now it is very difficult for people. They are fighting at every office and Market. You can guess at bla bla market now bla bla sure three times double. No business and all streets looks almost strike day. At Bank there are long queue and ATM don't work. The Bank says ATM will work since tomorrow and it would be long queue at ATM for a few days. Anyway I am happy about it, because many corrupted money will be buried and they cannot use especially for political leaders. During the Congress period they planned the same idea but all political leaders protested including Kerala communist party and Indian Industrial Mafias also, because all black moneys were held by Congress leaders, CPM and Industrial mafias. That is why Congress government nothing did to stop black money. Now it is some difficult for people, but it is OK. The difficulties hasn't affect for poor people, only middle class and rich people has problems.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonjour,
Pour notre part, nous avons pu échanger hier 4000 roupies par personne, soit 8000 a 2, mais comme il nous reste environ 30000 roupies en billets de 500 et 1000, il va nous falloir supprimer plusieurs visites pour aller faire encore 4 fois la queue-de-cheval dans des banques....
Dans les ATM, le retrait est limité à 2000 roupies, mais cela ne résoud pas notre problème lié à nos billets de 500 et 1000 roupies.
Je crois savoir que c'est ce qu'avait fait le gouvernement français après la guerre afin de débusquer l'argent accumulé grâce au marché noir. (Peut être un historien sur ce forum apportera-t-il plus de précisions)
Je suis à Bénarès et me suis fait avoir le 1° jour en changeant car je n'étais pas au courant. Mais le lendemain après une discussion appuyée (j'ai parlé fort alors qu'il y avait des clients dans la boutique), le changeur m'a donné des billets de 100 pour se débarrasser de moi. Du coup, j'ai un paquet de billets, je me sens riche.....
ChR
Je suis à Bénarès
Tu veux dire à Varanasi ?
Tu veux dire à Varanasi ?
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MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
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Ben oui, Varanasi, mais le nom de Bénarès me fait davantage rêver (tout comme Madras ou Bombay)
ChR
Ben oui, Varanasi, mais le nom de Bénarès me fait davantage rêver (tout comme Madras ou Bombay)
Peut-être, mais pourquoi ne pas rêver sur Chennai, Varanasi, Mumbai, Kolkota qui sont leurs noms réels et non pas une déformation par des anglais colonialistes/impérialistes ?
Peut-être, mais pourquoi ne pas rêver sur Chennai, Varanasi, Mumbai, Kolkota qui sont leurs noms réels et non pas une déformation par des anglais colonialistes/impérialistes ?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
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MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Le rêve ne se décide pas..
Et je ne m'insurge pas lorsque les Italiens parlent de Pariggi ou les Allemands de Mulhausen.
Que Bombay, Calcutta ou Pékin soient des noms issus du colonialisme m'iimporte peu, il y a d'autres chats à fouetter
ChR
C'est quoi cet integrisme sur les noms de villes ? 🤪
Est-ce que les suisses pleurent lorsqu'on nomme "Basel" Bale, les allemands pour Munchen, Koln, etc... qui deviennent Munich, Cologne, etc...
Les indiens eux-memes ne s'embarassent pas de cette double-denomination, ils s'en fichent.
Est-ce que les suisses pleurent lorsqu'on nomme "Basel" Bale, les allemands pour Munchen, Koln, etc... qui deviennent Munich, Cologne, etc...
Les indiens eux-memes ne s'embarassent pas de cette double-denomination, ils s'en fichent.
J'avais, comme les personnes, qui vont régulièrement en Inde quelques billets de 500 et 1000 roupies bien utiles lorsque je prends un taxi à mon arrivée à l'aéroport. Cela évite de faire aussi la queue pour le change à une heure très tardive ou très matinale. Je ne retourne en Inde que fin janvier donc ce sera trop tard.
J'avais, comme les personnes, qui vont régulièrement en Inde quelques billets de 500 et 1000 roupies bien utiles lorsque je prends un taxi à mon arrivée à l'aéroport. Cela évite de faire aussi la queue pour le change à une heure très tardive ou très matinale.
Et surtout le taux prohibitif pratiqué dans les aéroports. Tu ne connais personne de confiance à qui tu pourrais confier tes roupies ? De toutes façons, tu ne risques rien, perdu pour perdu... Quelqu'un qui habite près de chez toi et qui irais en Inde dans ton secteur aussi. D'où tu es ? où tu vas ?
Et surtout le taux prohibitif pratiqué dans les aéroports. Tu ne connais personne de confiance à qui tu pourrais confier tes roupies ? De toutes façons, tu ne risques rien, perdu pour perdu... Quelqu'un qui habite près de chez toi et qui irais en Inde dans ton secteur aussi. D'où tu es ? où tu vas ?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
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Salut .Je m adresse à toi comme à tous ceux qui sont sur place : quel est le plan à suivre pour celui qui débarque( à Chennai) mardi proch. et doit changer ses €.? Ou bien retarder l'arrivée en Inde? Merci pour toutes vos info.
rajean
Je vais effectivement voir avec les personnes que je connais. Tant pis pour moi, heureusement cela ne représente pas une somme considérable. Je vais au Gujarat de fin janvier à début mars.
Je vais effectivement voir avec les personnes que je connais. Tant pis pour moi, heureusement cela ne représente pas une somme considérable. Je vais au Gujarat de fin janvier à début mars.
Si tu ne trouves personne , moi je pars au Gujarat début Janvierjusqu'au début février...
Si tu ne trouves personne , moi je pars au Gujarat début Janvierjusqu'au début février...
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Ok, merci.
En principe pas de problème pour changer de l'argent à l'aéroport, mais sois vigilant à ce que l'on te donne des nouveaux billets de 500 ou 2000 roupies (déjà un peu en circulation, j'en ai vu aujourd'hui) et pas des anciens billets de 500 ou 1000 roupies.
Ah bon merci. Ça sera déjà en circulation? Et en ville? Le change à l'aéroport de Chennai mà semblé l'an dernier très en dessous de celui buros de la ville (Asian Exchange).
rajean
Voir les anciens et nouveaux billets... Ca peut être utile de les mémoriser avant de se faire avoir !
photo 1 : ancien 500Rs
photo 2 : ancien 1000Rs
photo 3 : nouveau 500Rs
photo 4 : nouveau 2000Rs
Voir les anciens et nouveaux billets... Ca peut être utile de les mémoriser avant de se faire avoir !
photo 1 : ancien 500Rs
photo 2 : ancien 1000Rs
photo 3 : nouveau 500Rs
photo 4 : nouveau 2000Rs
Bonne idée, parce que je sens que ça va y aller les arnaques sur les "first time in India ?
Bonne idée, parce que je sens que ça va y aller les arnaques sur les "first time in India ?
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Bonsoir, je suis dans la même situation que plusieurs ici. Je ne pense pas aller en Inde ces prochains mois et me retrouve avec 16'000Rs en billets de 1'000Rs et 2'000Rs en billets de 500Rs.
Je n'ai pas d'amis partant en Inde avant fin décembre. Quelqu'un aurait une idée ? Merci.
Bonjour et merci effectivement cela va être très utile, peut être aussi une astuce pour différencier les anciens et les nouveaux, regard vers la gauche sur les anciens, vers la droite sur les nouveaux. Quand est il du verso du billet ?
Sur le site de l'Ambassade de France, il est fait mention de ceci :
"Les dépôts demeureront possibles auprès de la Reserve Bank of India jusqu’au 31 mars 2017, sur présentation d’un justificatif."
Personne n'en parle ici pourtant ?.
"Les dépôts demeureront possibles auprès de la Reserve Bank of India jusqu’au 31 mars 2017, sur présentation d’un justificatif."
Personne n'en parle ici pourtant ?.
Mathilde
Le problème c'est justement le justificatif de change indien. Je ne pense pas l'avoir gardé ou même demandé bien qu'il me semble avoir changé dans un bureau Forex ou alors ailleurs sans justificatif...
Il y a peut être cette solution avec Yes Change... www.yes-change.com/...e/index.php?rubid=52
Ils ont un bureau de change sur Paris.
Bonjour François,
Un grand merci pour les images d'anciens et nouveaux billets. Merci également aux autres participants de cette discussion pour les renseignements divers.
Nous partons dimanche prochain pour la première fois en Inde (Rajasthan) et nous sommes les "clients" idéaux pour nous faire arnaquer. Je suppose que les ATM de l'aéroport seront disponibles et approvisionnés en nouvelles coupures. Après le change initial à l'arrivée, d'autres conseils à ce sujet?
Merci d'avance.
Christian
Bonjour Christian,
Je ne peux pas t'affirmer que les ATM de l'aéroport seront approvisionnés en nouvelles coupures, normalement ils devraient l'être.
Personnellement, dès mon arrivée à l'aéroport je change 50€ au bureau de change, certes le taux n'est pas dès plus favorables, mais ça me permet de régler mon prepaid-taxi pour me rendre à l'hôtel et de vérifier que les billets qu'on me donne sont valides.
Une fois installé sur place, je change des grosses sommes et j'ai une préférence pour les Money-Changers ou parfois directement avec l'hôtelier... Selon l'importance de la somme à changer, le taux peut être mieux disant. Ca n'empêche pas de toujours vérifier les billets qu'on te remet... Les Indiens n'ont pas une réputation de voleurs non plus !
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nous sommes rentres de notre séjour au cachemire et Ladakh voici 3 semaines.
4 semaines sur place dont une au cachemire .
nous sommes super contents de notre séjour sur Srinagar et sonamarg. un accueil très chaleureux des cachemiris plutôt contents de voir des touristes autres qu'indiens. et effectivement sur les 4 jours passes à Srinagar nous n'avons vu que 4 personnes typées européennes ... Srinagar est magnifique sur ses lacs et les jardins moghols très vivants . aucune difficulté pour se déplacer soit en sikhara soit en rickshaw ou taxi et beaucoup à pied .. les housesboat sont superbes malheureusement aux mains de consortium... Taxi pour nous rendre à sonamarg(20euros)
Sonamarg(deux nuits) et son glacier facile à faire soit à dos de cheval ou à pied devient un lieu de loisir pour les indiens .
Pour nous rendre au Ladakh par la suite nous avons opte pour le taxi non partage ( assez cher 100euros mais la route est longue ) (nous sommes un couple)mais nous permettant de nous arrêter quand nous le souhaitions ... et la route est superbe tout du long pour rejoindre lamayuru avec un premier col enneige et sous la neige à notre passage vers le 21mai ... puis arrêt à mulbek , kargil avant l'arrivée à lamayuru. (trois nuits) . A nouveau un taxi pour rejoindre Alchi (26 euros), une nuit et bus local de vers 8h le matin pour rejoindre Leh 3euros une heure de bus confortable . Arrivée à Leh vers 9:30 et Gyatsel de la guest house Tsarap guesthouse est venu nous chercher avec nos sacs à dos . sa guesthouse est située à 500m de la place du marche à Leh dans une petite ruelle tres calme et sans circulation . c'est une adresse que l'on conseille vivement car giatsel est précieux dans les prises de contacts pour taxi et organisation des circuits hors agence...
son hébergement est superconfortable et il fait à manger avec les legumes de son jardin . sa femme met aussi la main à la pate ... C'est la mere de giatsel qui fait le jardin .... C'est par son intermédiaire que nous avons établi les laisser passer pour la vallées de la nubra jusqu'à turtuk puis les lacs Pangon et Tsomoriri (finalement pas fait ce dernier pour cause de neige dans la nuit!, et traversee du changtang(magnifique) pour rejoindre thicksey, Stakna, hemis et retour sur Leh . 6 jours en taxi individuel 400euros ) Les routes étant dégagées pour avons repoint le zanskar pour 5jours en taxi partage,28 euros pour nous deux à l'aller et au retour . par la route Leh Zangla qui longe les gorges de la Zanskar(impressionnante!)
découverte de Padum pitibing , , karsha , puktal que l'on peut atteindre par une petite route de 7kms et 3/4 de marche pour finir et le sommet sacre sur la route de Manali .
A notre retour sur Leh nous avons fait prolonge notre permis pour nous rendre dans la vallée des aryens en taxi aller et retour deux jours (90 euros ); deux jours de repos sur Leh pour finir . l'altitude fatigue beaucoup ... je donne les tarifs des taxi à titre indicatif pour un couple . les nuitées auront été de 12 euros à Leh à 30 euros au lac panting euros au plus cher mais en moyenne autour de 15/17 euros ....
nous ne sommes pas des trekkeurs mais aimons les balades et la découverte et rencontres au gré des balades. voyage superbe et découverte de d'un très vieux monastère à quelques kms avant lamayuru avec un moine qui nous y a conduit. hors du temps ... je donne ces quelques renseignements car difficile d'avoir des precisions pour le cachemire .
A notre retour sur Leh nous avons fait prolonge notre permis pour nous rendre dans la vallée des aryens en taxi aller et retour deux jours (90 euros ); deux jours de repos sur Leh pour finir . l'altitude fatigue beaucoup ... je donne les tarifs des taxi à titre indicatif pour un couple . les nuitées auront été de 12 euros à Leh à 30 euros au lac panting euros au plus cher mais en moyenne autour de 15/17 euros ....
nous ne sommes pas des trekkeurs mais aimons les balades et la découverte et rencontres au gré des balades. voyage superbe et découverte de d'un très vieux monastère à quelques kms avant lamayuru avec un moine qui nous y a conduit. hors du temps ... je donne ces quelques renseignements car difficile d'avoir des precisions pour le cachemire .
Bonjour. Je souhaitais connaître les possibilités d'hébergement pour des randonneurs sans guide. Je vois qu'il y a des campings, les tentes sont elles déjà montées ou bien faut il prévoir la sienne ? Idem pour le sac de couchage, les nôtres sont un peu juste je pense - 0° température confort - des couvertures sont elles prêtées ? J'imagine un campement ou tout est prévu avec la possibilité de manger mais j'ai peur de me tromper...
Merci d'avance
Hello, we’re planning a trip to Kerala, in South India, in January/February 2027. We’ve chosen our cities but we’re looking for a French-speaking driver to take us from one city to another: Kochi - Athirappily - Munnar - Kumarakom - Marari - Kochi.
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Hi everyone!
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi there.
I’m used to traveling around Asia, especially India, and I’d love to explore Nepal for about two weeks, stopping in Calcutta.
Backpacking trip, local transport.
Departing from Lyon.
If you’ve got an adventurous spirit and don’t mind taking it slow, get in touch!
I don’t do treks, but I’m a strong walker.
See you soon
Hi there,
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
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Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe







