Deux étudiantes partant au Chili (informations générales)
by Chacou05
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour bonjour !
Nous sommes deux étudiantes et nous partons explorer le Chili 3 semaines en Août 2015 ! De ce fait j'aurai quelques questions pour les connaisseurs 😎
- le climat est il agréable pour le mois d'août ?
- devons nous explorer d'avantage le sud ou le nord du pays ?
- comment jugez vous la sécurité ? (Sachant que nous partons que à deux filles)
- est il possible de loger chez les locaux ?
- avons nous besoin d'un guide ? (Trek, balades...)
- quand réserver les billets d'avion ?
Je vous remercie pour vos réponses ! 🙂
Charlotte
Vaste sujet!août ce sera l'hiver le pays fait environ 4000kms du nord au sud avec des climats très différents, sec au nord, tempéré au centre humide au sud, sans parler de la montagne.Les distances et temps de parcours sont énormes.En bus, Santiago-San Pedro de Atacama c'est 24h.Explorer c'est un grand mot, disons visiter.A cette période, le sud et la Patagonie seront frais et humides, pas folichon.Le mieux est sans doute de visiter le centre jusque La Serena puis d'aller à San Pedro de Atacama au nord.Le Chili est un des pays les plus sécurisé mais comme partout il faut respecter les mesures de bon sens.Oui, on peut loger chez l'habitant en B§B par exemple.Pas besoin de guide, éventuellement agences locales comme à SPA.Les bus sont très bien organisés et adaptés aux longues distances.Pour les billets d'avion, le mieux est de s'y prendre plusieurs mois à l'avance en suivant leur évolution sur les sites comparatifs.
le Chili 3 semaines en Août 2015
- le climat est il agréable pour le mois d'août ? devons nous explorer d'avantage le sud ou le nord du pays ?
Non, c'est l'hiver partout. Le nord et l'extreme nord restent fréquentable.
- comment jugez vous la sécurité ? (Sachant que nous partons que à deux filles)
Pas de problemes particuliers á condition de ne pas trainer dans les endroits oú vous n'avez pas á explorer.
- est il possible de loger chez les locaux ?
Pas évident dans le nord mais vous pouvez trouver des residenciales ou hostales économiques.
- avons nous besoin d'un guide ? (Trek, balades...)
Pas de guides mais vous devrez passer par l'intermédiare d'agence de tourisme si vous n'étes pas motorisé. Se motoriser (location) est une alternative interessante á certains endroits (la plupart) mais onéreuse.
- quand réserver les billets d'avion ?
Janvier est une haute saison pour les Paris/Santiago, achetez á moins de 1200 euros
Le Chili étant étroit, envisagez donc un circuit sur le nord ouest de l'Argentine et le Sud ouest de la Bolivie avec le nord du Chili.
Suerte
Non, c'est l'hiver partout. Le nord et l'extreme nord restent fréquentable.
- comment jugez vous la sécurité ? (Sachant que nous partons que à deux filles)
Pas de problemes particuliers á condition de ne pas trainer dans les endroits oú vous n'avez pas á explorer.
- est il possible de loger chez les locaux ?
Pas évident dans le nord mais vous pouvez trouver des residenciales ou hostales économiques.
- avons nous besoin d'un guide ? (Trek, balades...)
Pas de guides mais vous devrez passer par l'intermédiare d'agence de tourisme si vous n'étes pas motorisé. Se motoriser (location) est une alternative interessante á certains endroits (la plupart) mais onéreuse.
- quand réserver les billets d'avion ?
Janvier est une haute saison pour les Paris/Santiago, achetez á moins de 1200 euros
Le Chili étant étroit, envisagez donc un circuit sur le nord ouest de l'Argentine et le Sud ouest de la Bolivie avec le nord du Chili.
Suerte
Bonjour Charlotte !
Pour la question du climat, c'est en effet l'hiver au Chili, mais pour être restée tout le mois de Juillet et un peu du mois d'Août à Santiago, l'hiver y est tout de même moins rude que chez nous... Tu arrives encore à sortir sans manteau durant les belles journées. Après c'est relatif et changeant un climat. (c'était un bel hiver pour eux) Je vous conseille de prévoir un imperméable et des bonnes chaussures, les averses sont pas forcément sympa.. Voir même les affaires de ski si ça vous dit, c'est quand même la saison des sports d'hiver à côté de Santiago à ce moment là !
Si vous optez pour le Sud, ce sera surement beaucoup d'averses, je pense qu'il y a toujours des belles ballades à faire mais pas avec la même aisance et les mêmes possibilités.. Surtout en Patagonie ou beaucoup de structures ferment.
Le bon conseil serait en effet de parcourir de Santiago jusqu'au Nord du Chili et à voir en combinant avec le Pérou ou la Bolivie. (avec en incontournable Santiago-Valparaiso-Canyon du Maipo, la région de la Serena qui est réputé.. mais surtout le désert de San Pedro). Vous pourriez combiner avec le Salar d'Uyuni qui est à côté en Bolivie et a vraiment l'air magnifique.
Les bus m'ont paru surs et le pays est un pays sécurisé, je ne m'y suis jamais senti en danger même en étant une fille et en se baladant seule !
Pour les balades, tout dépend du lieu mais dans le désert il peut être difficile de se balader seule, il faudra donc passer par des agences ou par le biais des hébergements (hostel -hôtels) qui proposent souvent les tours organisés. Je pense par exemple pour voir les geysers du Tatio, aller voir un salar, se baigner dans la lagune Cejar, se ballader dans la vallée de la Lune...
Même pour un petit trek dans la montagne il peut être intéressant de passer par une agence ou un parc, ça vous permettra de découvrir les meilleurs "spots" avec de beaux points de vue. (Par exemple le parc Cascada de las animas à côté de Santiago dans les montagnes).
Enfin pour le logement chez des locaux, je pense qu'il y a pas mal de possibilité par le Couchsurfing au moins à Santiago-Valparaiso.
Pour un petit aperçu du Chili vous pouvez visiter mon blog, j'ai passé 5 mois au Chili: http://11312km-plus-loin.over-blog.com/
Bonne préparation !
Gaëlle
Pour la question du climat, c'est en effet l'hiver au Chili, mais pour être restée tout le mois de Juillet et un peu du mois d'Août à Santiago, l'hiver y est tout de même moins rude que chez nous... Tu arrives encore à sortir sans manteau durant les belles journées. Après c'est relatif et changeant un climat. (c'était un bel hiver pour eux) Je vous conseille de prévoir un imperméable et des bonnes chaussures, les averses sont pas forcément sympa.. Voir même les affaires de ski si ça vous dit, c'est quand même la saison des sports d'hiver à côté de Santiago à ce moment là !
Si vous optez pour le Sud, ce sera surement beaucoup d'averses, je pense qu'il y a toujours des belles ballades à faire mais pas avec la même aisance et les mêmes possibilités.. Surtout en Patagonie ou beaucoup de structures ferment.
Le bon conseil serait en effet de parcourir de Santiago jusqu'au Nord du Chili et à voir en combinant avec le Pérou ou la Bolivie. (avec en incontournable Santiago-Valparaiso-Canyon du Maipo, la région de la Serena qui est réputé.. mais surtout le désert de San Pedro). Vous pourriez combiner avec le Salar d'Uyuni qui est à côté en Bolivie et a vraiment l'air magnifique.
Les bus m'ont paru surs et le pays est un pays sécurisé, je ne m'y suis jamais senti en danger même en étant une fille et en se baladant seule !
Pour les balades, tout dépend du lieu mais dans le désert il peut être difficile de se balader seule, il faudra donc passer par des agences ou par le biais des hébergements (hostel -hôtels) qui proposent souvent les tours organisés. Je pense par exemple pour voir les geysers du Tatio, aller voir un salar, se baigner dans la lagune Cejar, se ballader dans la vallée de la Lune...
Même pour un petit trek dans la montagne il peut être intéressant de passer par une agence ou un parc, ça vous permettra de découvrir les meilleurs "spots" avec de beaux points de vue. (Par exemple le parc Cascada de las animas à côté de Santiago dans les montagnes).
Enfin pour le logement chez des locaux, je pense qu'il y a pas mal de possibilité par le Couchsurfing au moins à Santiago-Valparaiso.
Pour un petit aperçu du Chili vous pouvez visiter mon blog, j'ai passé 5 mois au Chili: http://11312km-plus-loin.over-blog.com/
Bonne préparation !
Gaëlle
Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces précisions qui me sont très utile. C'est vrai que le climat nous pose un peu problème car nous voudrions vraiment faire la Patagonie! 😕
Nous avons eu plutôt des échos négatif sur Santiago du style "pas grand chose à voire" de ce fait nous allons rester plus longtemps à Valparaiso, qu'en pensez vous ?
Enfin, pensez vous qu'il est indispensable de passer quelques jours au Pérou ? Beaucoup de gens nous disent de faire les deux mais que le Pérou est moins "sécurisé". 😎
Merci Gaëlle!
Bonne soirée.
Charlotte
C'est vrai que le climat nous pose un peu problème car nous voudrions vraiment faire la Patagonie! 😕
Alors là.... C'est foutu!
moi que j'habite au coeur du coin le plus pluvieux de la Patagonie.... mais ça reste le paradis 😏
Alors là.... C'est foutu!
moi que j'habite au coeur du coin le plus pluvieux de la Patagonie.... mais ça reste le paradis 😏
La diferencia entre un loco y yo, es que el loco esta loco, y yo no estoy loco...
Pour ce qui est de Santiago, oui ce n'est pas une ville ayant beaucoup de patrimoines ou gros sites touristiques, mais pour moi ça vaut quand même le coup d'y passer. (Mais bon, c'est vrai qu'après y avoir passé 5 mois, je me suis attachée mon avis est forcément subjectif)
Tout dépend de ce que vous voulez voir mais si vous avez l'occasion d'y passer un ou 2 jours, vous serez largement occupé en allant sur le Mont San Cristobal, en visitant la maison "La Chascona" de Pablo Neruda, en allant au marché, en se balladant dans le centre, en visitant le musée de la mémoire pour en apprendre + sur le passé du Chili et il y a aussi d'autres musées si vous êtes intéressées...
Mais aussi pour sortir, la vie nocturne dans le quartier Bellavista est plutôt sympa! (pour tester notamment les boissons locales..).
Depuis Santiago il y a aussi la possibilité d'aller dans les montagnes pour de belle balades (Canyon du Maipo dont je parlais plus haut) ou aussi la possibilité de visiter les vignobles (il y en a sur la route vers Valparaiso aussi).
Mais oui Valparaiso vaut le coup donc vous pouvez y passer plus de temps, en 2 jours vous aurez le temps de visiter Valparaiso et la station balnéaire Viña del Mar. Il y a aussi Isla Negra, qui vous permet de voir une autre maison de Pablo Neruda.
Pour ce qui est de visiter le Pérou, tout dépend de votre itinéraire, et du temps que vous passez dans chaque endroit bien sûr. Mais moi je trouve que ça ajouterait un grand + à votre voyage si vous voulez un meilleur aperçu de l'Amérique du Sud. Certes, le Pérou est un pays moins sécurisé mais pour avoir visiter Lima et Cusco, c'est nettement + dépaysant, c'est un pays fascinant, la culture y est bien différente du Chili (et de même pour la Bolivie) !
Et pour reparler de sécurité, c'est toujours une question délicate, mais je pense vraiment qu'en prenant les précautions habituelles (pas circuler de nuit, pas de richesses apparentes, etc.) vous pourrez y passer un très bon séjour. (de même pour la Bolivie) Je me suis baladée dans Lima, Cusco, La Paz seule sans jamais me sentir en danger ! (même si oui, en lisant quelques post sur les forums on peut vite devenir parano, après c'est bien aussi de partir "prévenu" pour éviter les dangers) Pour moi ce qui est le plus "stressant" ce sont les trajets et transports donc pour ça il faut bien faire gaffe à prendre de bonnes compagnies de bus et des taxis officiels. CruzdelSur serait la compagnie de bus la plus sûre au Pérou
Et je tiens aussi à vous dire qu'en Aout vous rencontrerez plein d'autres européens en voyage comme vous, donc vous devriez être entourés aussi !
En espérant être assez claire et vous éclairer un peu... Vous avez encore le temps de la réflexion pour prévoir tout ça au moins :)
Bonne soirée
Gaëlle Mes 5 mois au Chili (voyages (+ Argentine/Pérou/Bolivie) et quotidien chilien): http://11312km-plus-loin.over-blog.com/
Mais oui Valparaiso vaut le coup donc vous pouvez y passer plus de temps, en 2 jours vous aurez le temps de visiter Valparaiso et la station balnéaire Viña del Mar. Il y a aussi Isla Negra, qui vous permet de voir une autre maison de Pablo Neruda.
Pour ce qui est de visiter le Pérou, tout dépend de votre itinéraire, et du temps que vous passez dans chaque endroit bien sûr. Mais moi je trouve que ça ajouterait un grand + à votre voyage si vous voulez un meilleur aperçu de l'Amérique du Sud. Certes, le Pérou est un pays moins sécurisé mais pour avoir visiter Lima et Cusco, c'est nettement + dépaysant, c'est un pays fascinant, la culture y est bien différente du Chili (et de même pour la Bolivie) !
Et pour reparler de sécurité, c'est toujours une question délicate, mais je pense vraiment qu'en prenant les précautions habituelles (pas circuler de nuit, pas de richesses apparentes, etc.) vous pourrez y passer un très bon séjour. (de même pour la Bolivie) Je me suis baladée dans Lima, Cusco, La Paz seule sans jamais me sentir en danger ! (même si oui, en lisant quelques post sur les forums on peut vite devenir parano, après c'est bien aussi de partir "prévenu" pour éviter les dangers) Pour moi ce qui est le plus "stressant" ce sont les trajets et transports donc pour ça il faut bien faire gaffe à prendre de bonnes compagnies de bus et des taxis officiels. CruzdelSur serait la compagnie de bus la plus sûre au Pérou
Et je tiens aussi à vous dire qu'en Aout vous rencontrerez plein d'autres européens en voyage comme vous, donc vous devriez être entourés aussi !
En espérant être assez claire et vous éclairer un peu... Vous avez encore le temps de la réflexion pour prévoir tout ça au moins :)
Bonne soirée
Gaëlle Mes 5 mois au Chili (voyages (+ Argentine/Pérou/Bolivie) et quotidien chilien): http://11312km-plus-loin.over-blog.com/
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Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍