Attentat à la gare de Mumbai (26 novembre 2008)
by Albalb
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Selon l'agence de presse indienne PTI, 16 personnes ont été tuées par balles mercredi dans une série d'échanges de tirs et d'explosions. Selon la police indienne, cela se serait passé dans "la principale gare ferroviaire de Mumbai" (jusqu'à présent la police n'a fourni aucune autre information, évitant également de citer le nom de la gare).
c'est vrai que pour l'instant, les infos sont plutôt réduites...
mais on sait que ça s'est passé à colaba et Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST).
voir par exemple CET ARTICLE du Indian Express... et en regardant la CNN indienne (CNN IBN), ça a un peu l'air d'être la panique à mumbai : gros titres tels que "mumbai on high alert", "terrorists take over mumbai", le "chief minister" conseille aux mumbaikers de ne pas sortir de chez eux...
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edit à 20h38 (1.08 am indian time) : on parle maintenant d'au moins 40 morts, 150 blessés. deux terroristes ont été tués. les sites visés sont entre autres des hôtels de luxe (oberoi, marriott, taj). des explosifs ont été trouvés dans un bateau près du gateway of india. (infos donnés par le gouvernement du maharastra, via CNN IBN)
voir par exemple CET ARTICLE du Indian Express... et en regardant la CNN indienne (CNN IBN), ça a un peu l'air d'être la panique à mumbai : gros titres tels que "mumbai on high alert", "terrorists take over mumbai", le "chief minister" conseille aux mumbaikers de ne pas sortir de chez eux...
🏴☠️
edit à 20h38 (1.08 am indian time) : on parle maintenant d'au moins 40 morts, 150 blessés. deux terroristes ont été tués. les sites visés sont entre autres des hôtels de luxe (oberoi, marriott, taj). des explosifs ont été trouvés dans un bateau près du gateway of india. (infos donnés par le gouvernement du maharastra, via CNN IBN)
Des Occidentaux sont retenus en otage mercredi à l'hôtel Taj de Bombay, l'une des cibles d'une série d'attentats dans la ville qui ont fait au moins 80 morts et 250 blessés, selon la police et des chaînes de télévision indiennes.
Peu avant l'annonce d'une prise d'otages, un témoin présent dans l'établissement avait déclaré que les auteurs des fusillades cherchaient des détenteurs de passeports britanniques ou américains. "Ils voulaient des étrangers", a déclaré à la chaîne NDTV ce témoin, qui a précisé venir de Londres et se trouver en Inde pour un voyage d'affaires.
http://globe-trotteuse.fr : Blog voyage (Inde Nord et Sud, Pérou, Bolivie, Thaïlande....)
J'espère que ça va pas s'étendre sur delhi à partir du 9 déc parce que j'y serais 😕
il manque un "pas", je pense, à ta phrase...
et les habitants de delhi, espèrent, eux aussi, que ça ne va pas s'étendre à leur ville, comme il y a quelques semaines... ni à partir du 9 décembre ni..........
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et les habitants de delhi, espèrent, eux aussi, que ça ne va pas s'étendre à leur ville, comme il y a quelques semaines... ni à partir du 9 décembre ni..........
😕
La série noire continue. 8 attaques ont touché différent lieux de Mumbai ce mercredi soir à partir de 22h33 (heure locale), 18h03 heure française.
Résultat: 80 morts et 250 blessés pour l’instant.
Les lieux: Le Taj Hotel et l’Oberoi Hotel et une station de train (CST - Chatrapathi Shivaji Railway Terminus).
Des terroristes semblent avoir en otages 20-25 personnes dont des étrangers au Taj Hotel.
Pour cette série d’attentats, les terroristes innovent et utilisent des AK-47 pour faire feu sur la foule dans la station de train, et en bonus, des grenades.
😉 je viens de corriger.
Sinon au purée, ça commence à me faire flipper tout ça.
tu pourras eviter les attentats que si tu vas dans les villages. les grandes villes et l'est indien, tu n'es pas epargné.
Evite juste les marchés, les hotels de luxe, les rues commerçantes, les gares, ...
Certains voyageront tranquillou en faisant confiance à la loi de la probabilité...
Evite juste les marchés, les hotels de luxe, les rues commerçantes, les gares, ...
Certains voyageront tranquillou en faisant confiance à la loi de la probabilité...
Vraiment désolée de te dire cela, mais si tes craintes sont justifiées, tes messages sont franchement déplacés.
Des personnes ont été tuées à bout portant par des sauvages, d'autres sont toujours en otages entre leurs mains... Une pensée très forte pour leur famille.
Il faut savoir que l'Inde est un pays violent, il y a hélas des actes terroristes de grande ampleur quasiment tous les mois dans les grandes métropoles du pays, même si on en parle peu ici, et il y a également régulièrement des massacres intercommunautaires d'une barbarie inouïe. Monsieur Jaydev qui fréquente ce forum pourra peut-être vous en parler mieux que moi. A Delhi, il y a eu pas moins d'une dizaine d'attentats à la bombe dans des lieux très fréquentés ces derniers mois pour info...
Si tu as peur pour ta petite personne, garde-le pour toi, personne ne te force à aller en Inde, qui est un pays en guerre larvée contre son voisin pakistanais et en guerre permanente contre le terrorisme et ses extremistes de tous bords. C'est la réalité. Les employés du Taj qui se sont fait massacrer n'ont elles pas eu le choix.
Des personnes ont été tuées à bout portant par des sauvages, d'autres sont toujours en otages entre leurs mains... Une pensée très forte pour leur famille.
Il faut savoir que l'Inde est un pays violent, il y a hélas des actes terroristes de grande ampleur quasiment tous les mois dans les grandes métropoles du pays, même si on en parle peu ici, et il y a également régulièrement des massacres intercommunautaires d'une barbarie inouïe. Monsieur Jaydev qui fréquente ce forum pourra peut-être vous en parler mieux que moi. A Delhi, il y a eu pas moins d'une dizaine d'attentats à la bombe dans des lieux très fréquentés ces derniers mois pour info...
Si tu as peur pour ta petite personne, garde-le pour toi, personne ne te force à aller en Inde, qui est un pays en guerre larvée contre son voisin pakistanais et en guerre permanente contre le terrorisme et ses extremistes de tous bords. C'est la réalité. Les employés du Taj qui se sont fait massacrer n'ont elles pas eu le choix.
Bonjour,
Vous êtes à Bombay ?
Comment puis-je vous joindre ? Auriez-vous un numéro de telephone ? JE vous écris de Paris, de la radio RTL. Nous cherchons à entrer en contact avec des français de Bombay...
En espérant avoir de vos nouvelles benjamin.muller@rtl.fr
Vous êtes à Bombay ?
Comment puis-je vous joindre ? Auriez-vous un numéro de telephone ? JE vous écris de Paris, de la radio RTL. Nous cherchons à entrer en contact avec des français de Bombay...
En espérant avoir de vos nouvelles benjamin.muller@rtl.fr
merci pour les infos !! je viens de lire l'indian express....sa a l'air carrément chaud ...en tout cas fait encore chier pour toute ces vies ...
qelles sont leur motivations ?
lEURS motivation est simple: Le cachemire au pakistan. Les étrangers (americain et britanique) qu'ils arretent d'etre derriere le dos des musulmans (irak, afghanistan...), faire du tors à l'inde, faire fuir les touristes.
en gros punir l'inde à cause du cachemire entre autre.
ma compagne est à Bombay depuis hier soir, dans ce quartier....
Quelle poussée énorme poussée d'adrénaline....!
l'amie avec qui elle était a Delhi m'a passé le nom et tel de son hotel et je viens d'avoir le gars de l'hotel qui m'a rassuré sur son sort...
mais je ne serais rassuré que lorsque je l'aurais entendu !!
cela fait tout bizarre de se retrouver concerné par de tels événements... donc une énorme pensée pour ceux qui ont des proches là-bas...
cela fait tout bizarre de se retrouver concerné par de tels événements... donc une énorme pensée pour ceux qui ont des proches là-bas...
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
salut Phil
j'espère que tu as pu avoir ta copine entretemps une dépêche tombée il y a 20 mn Près de 80 personnes ont été tuées à Bombay mercredi soir dans des fusillades et explosions en série, menées par des hommes armés de fusils d'assaut et de grenades, qui ont visé notamment des grands hôtels de la ville, a annoncé le gouvernement de l'Etat du Maharashtra. la suite : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/2/20081126/twl-inde-pres-de-80-morts-dans-une-serie-4bdc673.html
j'espère que tu as pu avoir ta copine entretemps une dépêche tombée il y a 20 mn Près de 80 personnes ont été tuées à Bombay mercredi soir dans des fusillades et explosions en série, menées par des hommes armés de fusils d'assaut et de grenades, qui ont visé notamment des grands hôtels de la ville, a annoncé le gouvernement de l'Etat du Maharashtra. la suite : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/2/20081126/twl-inde-pres-de-80-morts-dans-une-serie-4bdc673.html
Salut Eric,
j'espère que le gars de l'hôtel dit vrai et j'attends donc son réveil... quel délire !
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
elle se trouve dans quel hôtel ?
apparemment dans la dépêche et selon des témoins, les assaillants étaient très jeunes et munis de AK47
Aucun risque de la savoir dans un 4 ou 5 étoiles... 😉
allez bonne nuit !
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
lu sur Global Voices http://fr.globalvoicesonline.org/
Les premiers témoignages visuels des attentats en cours à Mumbai viennent d'être publiés sur le site de photos Flickr. Vinu du blog Vinu's Online Cloud a téléchargé de nombreuses photos prises dans les rues de la ville.
MumbaiHelp est à nouveau en ligne et propose de passer les appels téléphoniques pour ceux qui n'arrivent pas à joindre leurs familles ou amis. Laissez un message si vous cherchez à contacter des proches en ville De préférence, donnez un numéro de portable pour vous et vos proches ou amis et nous essaierons de leurs envoyer un sms. Conseil: je vous suggère de ne pas m'appeler. Le réseau est probablement surchargé. Envoyez moi plutôt des sms. . Gauravonomics suit en ligne la couverture en temps réél sur les attentats terroristes. Les attentats de Mumbai sont maintenant en page d'accueil de Google news, Mahalo fait du bon travail pour couvrir les événements au fur et à mesure. CNN-IB et NDTV et CNN-IBN diffusent tous deux les images en direct. Je mettrai d'autres liens en ligne au fur et à mesure.
Les premiers témoignages visuels des attentats en cours à Mumbai viennent d'être publiés sur le site de photos Flickr. Vinu du blog Vinu's Online Cloud a téléchargé de nombreuses photos prises dans les rues de la ville.
MumbaiHelp est à nouveau en ligne et propose de passer les appels téléphoniques pour ceux qui n'arrivent pas à joindre leurs familles ou amis. Laissez un message si vous cherchez à contacter des proches en ville De préférence, donnez un numéro de portable pour vous et vos proches ou amis et nous essaierons de leurs envoyer un sms. Conseil: je vous suggère de ne pas m'appeler. Le réseau est probablement surchargé. Envoyez moi plutôt des sms. . Gauravonomics suit en ligne la couverture en temps réél sur les attentats terroristes. Les attentats de Mumbai sont maintenant en page d'accueil de Google news, Mahalo fait du bon travail pour couvrir les événements au fur et à mesure. CNN-IB et NDTV et CNN-IBN diffusent tous deux les images en direct. Je mettrai d'autres liens en ligne au fur et à mesure.
Vraiment désolée de te dire cela, mais si tes craintes sont justifiées, tes messages sont franchement déplacés.
Bien sûr que c'est tragique pour les victimes et surtout leurs familles, et toutes nos pensées sont avec elles.
Ceci dit, sauf erreur, il me semble que c'est très très rare que des touristes soient ciblés. De là l'inquiétude de notre ami, j'imagine. Ne jamais oublier que le risque d'attentats est présent à n'importe quel moment dans les grandes villes en Inde.
Bien sûr que c'est tragique pour les victimes et surtout leurs familles, et toutes nos pensées sont avec elles.
Ceci dit, sauf erreur, il me semble que c'est très très rare que des touristes soient ciblés. De là l'inquiétude de notre ami, j'imagine. Ne jamais oublier que le risque d'attentats est présent à n'importe quel moment dans les grandes villes en Inde.
J'avais posté çà :
Je crois qu'il est opportun d'ouvrir une discussion sur les evenements de Bombay.
Avec les troubles en Thailande, il etait largement previsible que çà pouvait faire tâche d'huile dans la région (quoique, là, on dirait plutot un attentat islamiste qui profite de la situation...)
Y a t il des membres, ici, qui sont sur place ? Quelles infos avez vous ?
en n'ayant pas vu que le post existait... alors je l'ai supprimé pour ne pas disperser la discussion...
Question subsidiaire : je pars en mars (dans 3 mois), dans le cas de recidives de ce genre d'attentats, quelle est l'attitude previsible des tours operateurs ? politique de l'autruche ? annulation ? solution alternative ?
Y a t il des membres, ici, qui sont sur place ? Quelles infos avez vous ?
en n'ayant pas vu que le post existait... alors je l'ai supprimé pour ne pas disperser la discussion...
Question subsidiaire : je pars en mars (dans 3 mois), dans le cas de recidives de ce genre d'attentats, quelle est l'attitude previsible des tours operateurs ? politique de l'autruche ? annulation ? solution alternative ?
Vishnou28
Ca y est je viens d'avoir ma compagne au tel...ouf !
Elle m'a dit qu'à l'heure où j'avais appelé hier, elle n'était pas encore rentré, donc le mec de l'hôtel m'a rassuré sans savoir...
De sa chambre elle voit actuelement le Taj en fumée...
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
Ce que je crains le plus c'est que le conflit international entre les USA+Israël+ Grande Bretagne et leurs "caniches" (pardon l'Union Européenne) d'une part et le Moyen Orient (de la Palestine à l'Indus) d'autre part, ne se déplace vers l'est comme cela est en train de se produire : les USA vont se désengager de l'Irak pour mieux s'embourber en Afghanistan et surtout commencent à porter la guerre au Pakistan 😠 (j'espère que les USA et surtout Israël ne vont pas commettre l'irréparable en bombardant l'Iran, ils en seraient bien capable avant la relève Bush --> Obama 🏴☠️). Si cette guerre gagne le Pakistan, il est évident que cela aura des conséquences en Inde, en exacerbant les problèmes politiques existants (Cachemire et autres) et en forçant Delhi à s'aligner encore plus sur "l'axe du bien". Dans un tel scénario, les attentats vont fatalement se multiplier en Inde --> pauvres indiens 😕 et accessoirement pauvres de nous aficionados du voyage en Inde 🤪
Un bon test pour mesurer la température consiste à observer la cérémonie de fermeture de la Wagha border le soir entre Amritsar et Lahore, quand les deux peuples se font face du haut de leurs gradins respectifs. Il y a quelques années (quand les essais de bombinettes nucléaires indiennes et pakistanaises avaient lieu) quelques illuminés côté indien ont lancé des "Jaï Hind, Bharat Mata Jee" et la foule punjabi jusque là pacifique s'est sentie obligée de se lever et de reprendre le slogan nationaliste face à leurs frères punjabis pakistanais de l'autre côté de la frontière; quelques années plus tard, je me trouvais à nouveau à la Wagha border, c'était le jour de la fête de l'indépendance et plusieurs indiens punjabis portaient des drapeaux tricolores indiens joints à des drapeaux verts pakistanais (l'ambiance était donc passée de l'hostilité à la fraternisation, miracle de la propagande politicienne via les media modernes). En janvier 2009, je vais aller à nouveau observer cette cérémonie quotidienne : je crains que l'ambiance ne soit à nouveau électrique 🤪
Comment pourrais-je vous contacter ?
benjamin.muller@rtl.fr
je vous ai envoyé un mail (globecroqueur@gmail.com)
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
oui je te rejoins. la question que je me pose est qui est derrière tout ça. Evidemment on va s'empresser d'accuser la "mouvance islamiste" mais sur quels critères ? des mails où des groupes inconnus revendiquent les attaques ici comme à Assam.
Il y a des élections prochainement en Inde et ça ne fait que renforcer le parti fondamentaliste hindu dont on connait les connivences avec Israël que l'on ne présente plus. alors mefions nous des conclusions tirées à la hâte
Eric
Il y a des élections prochainement en Inde et ça ne fait que renforcer le parti fondamentaliste hindu dont on connait les connivences avec Israël que l'on ne présente plus. alors mefions nous des conclusions tirées à la hâte
Eric
Bonjour SHAKTISHATI.
Je trouve vos propos déplacé '' l'INDE EST UN PAYS VIOLENT'' vous oubliez notre guerre d'Indochine et surtout d'Algerie avec les répercutions en Métropole, vous oubliez les nombreux attentats à Paris ces denieres années, vous oubliez les attentas de Londres, et les tours de N.Y, vous oubliez le Rwanda, vous oubliez........... Alors ne dite pas de sotises, effectivement il y a eu environ 80 morts et 250 bléssées, ce qui est moralement insuportable, mais l'Inde n'est pas plus violent que la Grece des Colonels ou Pinochet, l'Espagne de Franco ou l'époque d'ALDOPHE !!!!!!! Bonne route et continuer à fermer les yeux.
Je trouve vos propos déplacé '' l'INDE EST UN PAYS VIOLENT'' vous oubliez notre guerre d'Indochine et surtout d'Algerie avec les répercutions en Métropole, vous oubliez les nombreux attentats à Paris ces denieres années, vous oubliez les attentas de Londres, et les tours de N.Y, vous oubliez le Rwanda, vous oubliez........... Alors ne dite pas de sotises, effectivement il y a eu environ 80 morts et 250 bléssées, ce qui est moralement insuportable, mais l'Inde n'est pas plus violent que la Grece des Colonels ou Pinochet, l'Espagne de Franco ou l'époque d'ALDOPHE !!!!!!! Bonne route et continuer à fermer les yeux.
Libre
Salut Vishnou28,
As-tu eu des réponses à ta question subsidiaire ?
"Question subsidiaire : je pars en mars (dans 3 mois), dans le cas de recidives de ce genre d'attentats, quelle est l'attitude previsible des tours operateurs ? politique de l'autruche ? annulation ? solution alternative ? "
Car nous partons aussi en Indes (avec mon compagnon et ma fille de 4 ans et ma soeur) en Janvier pour 2 mois, et je suis assez inquiète... N'hésites pas à me dire si tu en sais un peu plus. Merci, Stéphanie (latitfamille)
As-tu eu des réponses à ta question subsidiaire ?
"Question subsidiaire : je pars en mars (dans 3 mois), dans le cas de recidives de ce genre d'attentats, quelle est l'attitude previsible des tours operateurs ? politique de l'autruche ? annulation ? solution alternative ? "
Car nous partons aussi en Indes (avec mon compagnon et ma fille de 4 ans et ma soeur) en Janvier pour 2 mois, et je suis assez inquiète... N'hésites pas à me dire si tu en sais un peu plus. Merci, Stéphanie (latitfamille)
Bonjour SHAKTISHATI.
Je trouve vos propos déplacé '' l'INDE EST UN PAYS VIOLENT'' vous oubliez notre guerre d'Indochine et surtout d'Algerie avec les répercutions en Métropole, vous oubliez les nombreux attentats à Paris ces denieres années, vous oubliez les attentas de Londres, et les tours de N.Y, vous oubliez le Rwanda, vous oubliez........... Alors ne dite pas de sotises, effectivement il y a eu environ 80 morts et 250 bléssées, ce qui est moralement insuportable, mais l'Inde n'est pas plus violent que la Grece des Colonels ou Pinochet, l'Espagne de Franco ou l'époque d'ALDOPHE !!!!!!! Bonne route et continuer à fermer les yeux.
Tu prends quand même des exemples peu flatteur pour mettre l'Inde a pied d'égalité. On en est a une dizaine d'attentat cette année, sans parler des violences inter-religieuse en Orissa.
Personnellement je vais voyager en Inde dès Janvier et je pense changer un peu mes habitudes: plus de grandes villes ou alors le minimum possible. Ce qui m'attriste.
Je trouve vos propos déplacé '' l'INDE EST UN PAYS VIOLENT'' vous oubliez notre guerre d'Indochine et surtout d'Algerie avec les répercutions en Métropole, vous oubliez les nombreux attentats à Paris ces denieres années, vous oubliez les attentas de Londres, et les tours de N.Y, vous oubliez le Rwanda, vous oubliez........... Alors ne dite pas de sotises, effectivement il y a eu environ 80 morts et 250 bléssées, ce qui est moralement insuportable, mais l'Inde n'est pas plus violent que la Grece des Colonels ou Pinochet, l'Espagne de Franco ou l'époque d'ALDOPHE !!!!!!! Bonne route et continuer à fermer les yeux.
Tu prends quand même des exemples peu flatteur pour mettre l'Inde a pied d'égalité. On en est a une dizaine d'attentat cette année, sans parler des violences inter-religieuse en Orissa.
Personnellement je vais voyager en Inde dès Janvier et je pense changer un peu mes habitudes: plus de grandes villes ou alors le minimum possible. Ce qui m'attriste.
Non, pas de reponse...
A mon avis, c'est une question difficile a trancher.
Si cet attentat reste isolé (apres ceux de l'été), ils ne feront rien.
Je pense qu'ils ne bougeront que s'ils ont peur de se retrouver avec des pertes prejudiciables a leur image, ou s'ils ont peur d'etre responsables pour avoir envoyé des touristes a la mort.
N'oublions pas que les assurances ne couvrent pas les risques de guerre civile ou etrangere, ni les attentats terroristes ou politiques.
Bon, moi c'est dans trois mois.. wait and see.... (dire que j'ai reservé il y a deux jours.. ;-))
mais vous avec un enfant, je comprend votre inquietude...
Si cet attentat reste isolé (apres ceux de l'été), ils ne feront rien.
Je pense qu'ils ne bougeront que s'ils ont peur de se retrouver avec des pertes prejudiciables a leur image, ou s'ils ont peur d'etre responsables pour avoir envoyé des touristes a la mort.
N'oublions pas que les assurances ne couvrent pas les risques de guerre civile ou etrangere, ni les attentats terroristes ou politiques.
Bon, moi c'est dans trois mois.. wait and see.... (dire que j'ai reservé il y a deux jours.. ;-))
mais vous avec un enfant, je comprend votre inquietude...
Vishnou28
Merci pour ta réponse, alors on va attendre et voir la suite des événements...
En tous cas, j'apprends quelque chose en ce qui concerne les assurances ! Je trouve ça stupéfiant !
A plus tard,
C'est valable meme pour l'assurance habitation et auto en France....
lis bien ce qui est ecrit en tout petit a la rubrique :
exclusions de garantie...😏
Vishnou28
Travaillant pour un tour opérateur, je peux vous dire que pour les voyages avec un départ dans deux mois, le tour opérateur ne fera rien. Malheureusement les attentats en Inde sont courants (Jaipur, Delhi cette année) et les ventes de voyages en Inde ne se sont pas arrêtés pour autant. Je pense que les TO vont certainement annuler les séjours et arrivée prévues pour Bombay cette semaine et jusqu'à ce que la situation s'arrange mais ne vont certainement pas annuler les circuits des trois mois à venir. Les TO n'annule les circuits qu'en cas de risques avérés pour leurs client. Malheureusement, si chaque TO devait annuler les circuits dans chaque pays ou il y a eu des problemes, vous n'iriez plus nul part, y compris aux states.
http://globe-trotteuse.fr : Blog voyage (Inde Nord et Sud, Pérou, Bolivie, Thaïlande....)
merci de cet avis autorisé.
J'imagine, d'ailleurs que, tant que le quai d'Orsay n'émet pas un avis défavorable, ils se sentent autorisés a maintenir.... apres tout c'est aux politiques de definir le niveau de risque acceptable...
Devant l'ampleur des problemes en Thailande, ils viennent seulement de "deconseiller" le depart....
J'imagine, d'ailleurs que, tant que le quai d'Orsay n'émet pas un avis défavorable, ils se sentent autorisés a maintenir.... apres tout c'est aux politiques de definir le niveau de risque acceptable...
Devant l'ampleur des problemes en Thailande, ils viennent seulement de "deconseiller" le depart....
Vishnou28
bonsoir du kerala
sous choque pour les évènements, je pense toutefois qu'il n'est pas le cas d'annuller les voyages! partout dans le monde il y a des attentats, de la violence, de la non-justice.... et tous nous devons continuer à vivre de jour en jour. même en europe il y a des bâtiments qui s'écroulent, des bombonnes de gaz qui explosent, des meurtres et du viol. il faut ne pas permettre au terrorisme d'arrêter le monde de tourner!
donnez un sourire à votre voisin où même à la personne inconnue dans la rue, une caresse à un enfant, de l'espoir à un desespéré, de l'affection à une personne agée.... diffusez la non-violence, ne vous fâchez pas, soyez patients.....chaque jour peut être le dernier! il n'y a rien d'autre à faire, le monde tourne en rond!
bon voyage! monique de kochi
sous choque pour les évènements, je pense toutefois qu'il n'est pas le cas d'annuller les voyages! partout dans le monde il y a des attentats, de la violence, de la non-justice.... et tous nous devons continuer à vivre de jour en jour. même en europe il y a des bâtiments qui s'écroulent, des bombonnes de gaz qui explosent, des meurtres et du viol. il faut ne pas permettre au terrorisme d'arrêter le monde de tourner!
donnez un sourire à votre voisin où même à la personne inconnue dans la rue, une caresse à un enfant, de l'espoir à un desespéré, de l'affection à une personne agée.... diffusez la non-violence, ne vous fâchez pas, soyez patients.....chaque jour peut être le dernier! il n'y a rien d'autre à faire, le monde tourne en rond!
bon voyage! monique de kochi
rêve ton rêve intensément jusqu'à sa réalisation! (bertrand piccard, à la fin de son tour du monde en mongolfière)
ne soyez pas inquiets, pour votre séjour dans 3 ou 4 mois, d'ici là!!!!!!!! ce sera plus qu'un vieux souvenir..........vous ne vous souviendrez même pas de ce qui c'est passé le 26 novembre 2008.
alors courage!!!!!!!et concentrez vous sur vos vacances, car à part ces risques l'Inde est un excellent pays..
schawna
la réalité est beaucoup plus intéressante que ses rêves....
la réalité est beaucoup plus intéressante que ses rêves....
je pense qu'il est trop tot pour paniquer.
Ceci dit, si on est tres inquiet, on peut aussi negocier un changement de destination ( Irak, Afghanistan, ;-)))) quitte a aller en Inde l'année prochaine ?
Mais, je le repete, trop tot pour paniquer.🙂
Ceci dit, si on est tres inquiet, on peut aussi negocier un changement de destination ( Irak, Afghanistan, ;-)))) quitte a aller en Inde l'année prochaine ?
Mais, je le repete, trop tot pour paniquer.🙂
Vishnou28
Il est effectivement tôt pour paniquer. Quoique... Je pars jeudi prochain avec une amie pour 4mois, nous ne comptons pas annuler notre voyage et nous arrivons à Mumbai. Ce soir je vais chercher mon visa, j'espère qu'il n'y aura pas de problème.
Wait and see 😐
Wait and see 😐
départ le 2 janvier pour nous, aussi avec notre fils, GLOUPS'🤪
Népal, Inde, Roumanie, Kirghizistan, Irlande, Asie Centrale via la Turquie et l'Iran en mercedes 310D James Cook, le tout en famille
bonjour ....
je viend d'appeler ebookers pour des renseignements, nous partons en fevrier et mars
efectivement pas de remboursements des billets mais quand meme les frais de taxes d'aeroport.
pour nous sur 960 on reccuperrerai 365e
pas simple de faire un choix...
L'Inde, c'est grand. Ce serait dommage d'annuler.
L'Inde, c'est grand. Ce serait dommage d'annuler.
Dans le fond, je suis d'accord avec tout le monde...
Des accidents, des attentats, des guerres, des tsunamis... il peut arriver n'importe quoi, à n'importe qui, à tout moment...
Mais quand même, dans la forme... ça donne à réfléchir... surtout avec un bout'choux !
Je ne sais pas trop... Nous verrons bien d'ici 1 mois l'évolution de tout ça !
Je ne pense pas annuler notre voyage, pour le moment...
Mon vol est pour samedi midi. Même réponse de ebookers pour moi : pas d'annulation du vol, pas d'avis d'Orsay -> pas de remboursement, ou si peu.
Orsay ne déconseille pas pour l'instant de voyager en Inde, on m'a seulement dit qu'éviter si possible Bombay serait plus simple.
Je vais effectivement abandonner l'idée de passer à Bombay et prendre direct un avion vers le sud.
Entre les personnes autour de moi qui me conseillent d'abandonner et le ministère des affaires étrangères qui reste serein, c'est difficile de faire son choix.
En attente d'évolutions, donc.
Je vais effectivement abandonner l'idée de passer à Bombay et prendre direct un avion vers le sud.
Entre les personnes autour de moi qui me conseillent d'abandonner et le ministère des affaires étrangères qui reste serein, c'est difficile de faire son choix.
En attente d'évolutions, donc.
oui c'est sur qu'on peut prendre peur pour nos enfants.
pour le moment, aucun changement à prévoir pour nous.
nous partirons sereins, je l'espère!
Népal, Inde, Roumanie, Kirghizistan, Irlande, Asie Centrale via la Turquie et l'Iran en mercedes 310D James Cook, le tout en famille
... je pense que tu as mal interprété les paroles de Shaktishakti, que je rejoins totalement dans ses propos qui n'ont pour moi rien à voir avec les tiens au sujet des conflits du passé, qu'ils concernent les français ou non ...
... elle n'a fait que rappeler une vérité que certains ont peut-être tendance à oublier, en disant que l'Inde est (aussi) un pays violent
... que d'autres pays soient plus violents n'enlève absolument rien à cette réalité, et il ne s'agit pas ici selon moi d'établir une énième liste VF ( 🤪 !), celle des pays les plus violents !
... enfin, je trouve plutôt sain de sa part, devant certaines réactions exprimées ici, de nous rappeler à tous la définition du mot "dérisoire"
... ce en quoi elle fait tout le contraire de "fermer les yeux" sur les vraies victimes ...
... voilà !
... elle n'a fait que rappeler une vérité que certains ont peut-être tendance à oublier, en disant que l'Inde est (aussi) un pays violent
... que d'autres pays soient plus violents n'enlève absolument rien à cette réalité, et il ne s'agit pas ici selon moi d'établir une énième liste VF ( 🤪 !), celle des pays les plus violents !
... enfin, je trouve plutôt sain de sa part, devant certaines réactions exprimées ici, de nous rappeler à tous la définition du mot "dérisoire"
... ce en quoi elle fait tout le contraire de "fermer les yeux" sur les vraies victimes ...
... voilà !
bon en tous cas j'ai vue les images a la tv a midi ...sa fait peur quand meme . il y sont pas allé de main morte et sauf si je me trompe les touristes etaient visé ...
il y avait une image du café leopold dans un sacrée etat.
bon apres de la à annuler sont voyage; c'est vrai que c'est asser serieux la pour qu'on en parle a la tele mais sinon il y a des attentats asser souvent....
ya pas si longtemp a ajmer !! http://www.aujourdhuilinde.com/actualites-inde-deux-attentats-frappent-le-nord-de-l-inde-ce-week-end-717.asp?1=1
ou a jaipur !! http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/articles/101/article_66187.asp
une pensée pour toute les victimes ....que ce soit en inde ou dans les autres pays....
ya pas si longtemp a ajmer !! http://www.aujourdhuilinde.com/actualites-inde-deux-attentats-frappent-le-nord-de-l-inde-ce-week-end-717.asp?1=1
ou a jaipur !! http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/articles/101/article_66187.asp
une pensée pour toute les victimes ....que ce soit en inde ou dans les autres pays....
Comme je suis coincée au bureau, je me suis connectée sur www.twitter.com et j'y suis les actualités en direct.
Toutes mes prières vont à Sylvie, Muriel et tous les autres qui se trouvent actuellement à Mumbai.
Toutes mes prières vont à Sylvie, Muriel et tous les autres qui se trouvent actuellement à Mumbai.
Balades autour de la boule : Inde, Bangladesh, Turquie, Népal, ..
Récit Bangladesh
Récit Inde 2001
coucou Marie,
Sab tick hai
Sylvie est rentrée de Delhi avant hier et Mu est ok, j'en serais plus ce soir...
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
Pourquoi annuler votre voyage? Il y a eu des attentats aussi meurtriers tous les mois depuis des années en Inde, et cela n'a pas alarmé grand monde ici, tout simplement parce qu'on en a pas parlé dans nos medias. A peine une évocation au Soir 3 pour les 8 attentats simultanés de Jaipur en mai, ça m'a révoltée.
La différence aujourd'hui, c'est qu'il y a des Occidentaux parmi les victimes, dans des hotels de luxe et que l'attaque est très télégénique... Le Taj en feu Wow!... L'Oberoi et le Taj, hôtels qui ont accueilli la délégation de Sarko en Janvier à Delhi, wowow!.. Notez qu'on parle beaucoup moins de la tuerie de la gare ou des hopitaux.
Il a donc eu une dizaine de morts occidentaux, mais vous avez bien plus de chances de perdre une jambe en courant après un train (cas d'une française a Delhi en 2007) ou de mourir dans un accident de voiture dans un car indien ou en traversant une rue en France, croyez-moi mon expérience. Je ne comprends vraiment pas ce genre d'attitude. Il y a eu aussi des attentats du meme type en Europe, c'est la vie!
Alors, d'avance, bon voyage en Inde à tous!
La différence aujourd'hui, c'est qu'il y a des Occidentaux parmi les victimes, dans des hotels de luxe et que l'attaque est très télégénique... Le Taj en feu Wow!... L'Oberoi et le Taj, hôtels qui ont accueilli la délégation de Sarko en Janvier à Delhi, wowow!.. Notez qu'on parle beaucoup moins de la tuerie de la gare ou des hopitaux.
Il a donc eu une dizaine de morts occidentaux, mais vous avez bien plus de chances de perdre une jambe en courant après un train (cas d'une française a Delhi en 2007) ou de mourir dans un accident de voiture dans un car indien ou en traversant une rue en France, croyez-moi mon expérience. Je ne comprends vraiment pas ce genre d'attitude. Il y a eu aussi des attentats du meme type en Europe, c'est la vie!
Alors, d'avance, bon voyage en Inde à tous!
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QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
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Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.





