Nous prévoyons un mois au chili. D'aprés ce que j'ai entendu, le pays n'est pas trés bon marché. Avec un hebergement modeste et des repas normaux ainsi que les excursions sur les plus beaux sites du pays. Quel budget pour deux ? Si quelqu'un a fait un séjour récemment, toutes infos et tuyaux sur les hôtels ou chez l'habitant seront les bienvenus. Auriez-vous un itinéraire à nous conseiller. Au plaisir de vous lire Chris
Périple au Chili en novembre-décembre: budget pour deux personnes?
by Chrised
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut à tous,
Nous prévoyons un mois au chili. D'aprés ce que j'ai entendu, le pays n'est pas trés bon marché. Avec un hebergement modeste et des repas normaux ainsi que les excursions sur les plus beaux sites du pays. Quel budget pour deux ? Si quelqu'un a fait un séjour récemment, toutes infos et tuyaux sur les hôtels ou chez l'habitant seront les bienvenus. Auriez-vous un itinéraire à nous conseiller. Au plaisir de vous lire Chris
Nous prévoyons un mois au chili. D'aprés ce que j'ai entendu, le pays n'est pas trés bon marché. Avec un hebergement modeste et des repas normaux ainsi que les excursions sur les plus beaux sites du pays. Quel budget pour deux ? Si quelqu'un a fait un séjour récemment, toutes infos et tuyaux sur les hôtels ou chez l'habitant seront les bienvenus. Auriez-vous un itinéraire à nous conseiller. Au plaisir de vous lire Chris
chrisjane
Bonjour,
j'ai été au Chili 2 semaines en novembre 2008, et c'est magnifique ! d'abord à cette période il fait un peu froid car c'est le printemps et si vous montez dans les montagnes il caille assez.
nous on est parti de santiago on est montés jusqu'à arica (en bus) puis on est on redescendu d'une traite par avion, pour notre retour à paris.
on a visité la serena (2 jours), antofagasta (3 jours), san pedro d'atacama (3jours), arica, parinacota pour le lac chungara, iquique copiapo et on a terminer par vigna/valparaiso.
les endroits que j'ai le plus adorés sont san pedro d'atacama, lac chungara, antofagasta.
c'est vrai que les hôtels sont un peu chers mais ça reste raisonnable comparé à certains pays. peut être cela a augmenté depuis...
les transports tels que le bus et métro à santiago sont pas très chers, la nourriture aussi car les chiliens mangent beaucoup de ptits sandwich (à base d'avocat).
Au niveau budget, je ne peux pas te dire car nous avons beaucoup voyager en bus de nuit (trés confortables) donc ça évite des frais d'hôtels et avons été hébergés quelques fois chez des amis de mon mari.
sinon, cela reste un des plus beaux pays que j'ai fait.
et pourtant, je n'ai pas tout vu du Chili.
bonne préparation et bon voyage.
hola
j etais au chili en decembre janvier dernier, c etait le deuxieme voyage au chili, j aime toujours bc Valparaiso, mais les ascenseurs pour aller sur les cerros sont arrétés sauf un ou deux, dommage. Si on aime la nature la region des volcans aux alentours de Villarrica, Puerto varas, mais il faut qu il fasse beau. lors du premier voyage en janvier pas vu un volcan, il pleuvaitou les nuages etaient tres bas. valdivia est aussi une jolie ville, avec le soleil.
Je suis resté 10 jours à Chiloe je logeais dans des fermes du reseau agroturismo agrotur_chiloe@hotmail.com.
dans les offices de tourisme de castro ou ancud, il y a la liste des fermes qui font ce type d accueil.
je suis allé dans des communautés Mapuche dans la region de Melipeuco à santa maria de LLaima et chez des artisans Mapuches au lac Icalma, à la frontiere avec l argentine. si tu veux connaitre la culture mapuche, à Icalma, il y a une association "etnoturismo " qui propose 3 jours /2nuits de découverte de la culture Mapuche et de leurs croyances, des luttes pour retrouver leurs terres contacter bernarda nahuelcuro pilun9@yahoo.es , etnoturismo9@hotmail.com . On peut loger aussi dans d autres communautés mapuches à coté de Villarrica comunidad Ignacio Yevilao la presidente est maria luisalincolao mluisa.lp2@gmail.com. il faut ecrire en espagnol.
un autre endroit qui est saisissant est chaiten, patagonie nord, entrée du parc Pumalin, on y arrive en bateau à partir de queillon au sud de chiloe ou de puerto montt ou castro. les randos et visites proposées par Nicolas de Chaitur sont tres interessantes.
Chaiten a été recouvert de cendres du volcan , la population est partie mais 500 habitants sont revenus, atmosphere vraiment particuliere, mais d y aller ça aide les gens qui ont eu le courage de revenir
lors du premier voyage j avais été jusqu à puerto natales en bateau à partir de puerto montt, c est bien , 3 jours de navigation dans les canaux de patagonie mais un peu cher
cette fois je suis resté une semaine à santiago, ça m a permis de decouvrir des quartiers completement differents de ce que j avais vu lors du premier voyage. par ex j ai découvert le parque por la Paz , un parc qui a été construit sur la "villa" où étaient torturés les opposanats à Pinochet, jai découvert les pavés en bronze disséminés parmis dautres pavés, sur les quels sont inscrits les noms, l age, le parti politique des opposant tués par la dictature.
En fait j allais reperer un voyage pour l association de tourisme solidaire dont je fais partie www.departs-voyages-solidaires.com,
si tu vas sur le site tu pourras trouver le programmes de 3 semaines que l on propose , j ai supprimé la visite de la partie nord du Chili parce que c est un grand pays . On va y retourner de fin novembre jusqu à fin janvier. Pour le sud, il vaut mieux y aller à cette periode, si tu es interessé par l hebergement dans les communautés mapuches, je te donnerai quelques autres adresses, mais parfois quand on est pressé, ce n est pas toujours facile d y arriver sans vehicule.
evidemment si tu vas à Puerto natales, il faut aller au parc de torres del paines
bonne preparation
ajc
Salut,
J'ai passé une semaine au Chili au mois d'avril.
Les bus ne sont vraiment pas chers (surtout par rapport à l'Argentine) et très confortables. Je vous conseille de voyager de nuit pour économiser un peu de temps et d'argent.
J'ai dormi dans des hostels, en dortoir, le moins cher m'a coûté 5000 chiliens la nuit à Santiago (plutôt bien situé), deux autres (San Pedro de Atacama, Vina del mar) m'ont coûté 8000 pesos chiliens la nuit et un 6000 (La Serena)
La nourriture n'est pas très chère, surtout si vous êtes disposés à manger léger ou à cuisiner.
En revanche, les excursions sont souvent très chères..
Par jour, je dirais environ 30 euros par personne
J'ai passé une semaine au Chili au mois d'avril.
Les bus ne sont vraiment pas chers (surtout par rapport à l'Argentine) et très confortables. Je vous conseille de voyager de nuit pour économiser un peu de temps et d'argent.
J'ai dormi dans des hostels, en dortoir, le moins cher m'a coûté 5000 chiliens la nuit à Santiago (plutôt bien situé), deux autres (San Pedro de Atacama, Vina del mar) m'ont coûté 8000 pesos chiliens la nuit et un 6000 (La Serena)
La nourriture n'est pas très chère, surtout si vous êtes disposés à manger léger ou à cuisiner.
En revanche, les excursions sont souvent très chères..
Par jour, je dirais environ 30 euros par personne
Bonjour,
J'ai vécu au Chili 4 mois l'été dernier. J'y suis retourné il y a une semaine. Ma nana est chilienne. Je connais pas mal, surtout les coins assez "roots."
Le Chili, c'est vaste, très divers. Les prix varient donc d'une région à l'autre (le Nord est très cher du fait de la mane du secteur minier), Santiago aussi puisque c'est la capitale. C'est le pays le plus cher en Amérique du Sud, Buenos Aires étant le seul lieu ou les prix sont encore plus élevés.
Pour voyager, je vous conseille les bus de nuits, très très bon marché, et vraiment confortable, même les catagories qui ne sont pas luxueuses à mon gout. C'est d'ailleurs le seul pays ou je n'ai pas été fatigué par les bus de nuit. Voir les compagnies: www.turbus.cl et www.pullman.cl Il y en a d'autres, ce sont les compagnies principales. Pour les longues destinations, il vaut mieux réserver une semaine en avance, surtout en période de vacances ou de long weekends (c'est aussi beaucoup plus cher à ce moment)
Une chambre pour 2, c'est plus ou moins 20-25 euros pour une chambre confortable. A San Pedro, par exemple, en dortoire, c'est 10-12 euros la nuit. Un peu moins cher dans les zones moins connus (Vilches, la Serena pare exemple). Pour le Sud je ne connais pas, je vivais chez des amis. Les repas sont pas chers. Le resto, c'est 2-3 euros grand max. Sinon c'est que vous allez dans les coins pour touristes !!!! La cuisine chilienne est très bonne, mais n'est pas aussi réputée que la cuisine Péruvienne (de Lima). Donc pour 2, selon moi, on peut s'en sortir pour 20 euros par jour, environ. Un peu plus si vous êtes sur San Pedro. Les excursions peuvent vous paraître cher, mais je vous jure que c'est vraiment très dur pour les entreprises la bas, du fait de la concurrence. Leur marge de maneuvre est moins de 10%. Ils ne négocieront pas à moins que vous vous fidélisiez chez eux.
Je vous souhaite un très bon voyage, c'est un pays extraordinaire, terre de contraste entre le Nord, désert, minéral, coloré, le centre, au climat plus méditerranéen, aux montagnes d'une hauteur et aux couleurs impressionantes (que peu connaissent ou visitent, malheureusement), le pays Mapuche, très vert, aux lacs émeraudes, ou la Patagonie, entre fjords, volcans, glaciers... Malgré mon jeune age, j'ai eu la chance de beaucoup voyager. Je ne suis pas seulement tombé amoureux d'une chilienne, mais aussi et d'ailleurs avant tout d'un pays magnifique et à la population très chaleureuse, très acceuillante, et peu réservée comparée aux populations altiplaniques !
J'ai vécu au Chili 4 mois l'été dernier. J'y suis retourné il y a une semaine. Ma nana est chilienne. Je connais pas mal, surtout les coins assez "roots."
Le Chili, c'est vaste, très divers. Les prix varient donc d'une région à l'autre (le Nord est très cher du fait de la mane du secteur minier), Santiago aussi puisque c'est la capitale. C'est le pays le plus cher en Amérique du Sud, Buenos Aires étant le seul lieu ou les prix sont encore plus élevés.
Pour voyager, je vous conseille les bus de nuits, très très bon marché, et vraiment confortable, même les catagories qui ne sont pas luxueuses à mon gout. C'est d'ailleurs le seul pays ou je n'ai pas été fatigué par les bus de nuit. Voir les compagnies: www.turbus.cl et www.pullman.cl Il y en a d'autres, ce sont les compagnies principales. Pour les longues destinations, il vaut mieux réserver une semaine en avance, surtout en période de vacances ou de long weekends (c'est aussi beaucoup plus cher à ce moment)
Une chambre pour 2, c'est plus ou moins 20-25 euros pour une chambre confortable. A San Pedro, par exemple, en dortoire, c'est 10-12 euros la nuit. Un peu moins cher dans les zones moins connus (Vilches, la Serena pare exemple). Pour le Sud je ne connais pas, je vivais chez des amis. Les repas sont pas chers. Le resto, c'est 2-3 euros grand max. Sinon c'est que vous allez dans les coins pour touristes !!!! La cuisine chilienne est très bonne, mais n'est pas aussi réputée que la cuisine Péruvienne (de Lima). Donc pour 2, selon moi, on peut s'en sortir pour 20 euros par jour, environ. Un peu plus si vous êtes sur San Pedro. Les excursions peuvent vous paraître cher, mais je vous jure que c'est vraiment très dur pour les entreprises la bas, du fait de la concurrence. Leur marge de maneuvre est moins de 10%. Ils ne négocieront pas à moins que vous vous fidélisiez chez eux.
Je vous souhaite un très bon voyage, c'est un pays extraordinaire, terre de contraste entre le Nord, désert, minéral, coloré, le centre, au climat plus méditerranéen, aux montagnes d'une hauteur et aux couleurs impressionantes (que peu connaissent ou visitent, malheureusement), le pays Mapuche, très vert, aux lacs émeraudes, ou la Patagonie, entre fjords, volcans, glaciers... Malgré mon jeune age, j'ai eu la chance de beaucoup voyager. Je ne suis pas seulement tombé amoureux d'une chilienne, mais aussi et d'ailleurs avant tout d'un pays magnifique et à la population très chaleureuse, très acceuillante, et peu réservée comparée aux populations altiplaniques !
bonjour
on dit que le chili est le pays le plus cher d'amérique latine mais j'ai trouvé que le venezuela etait trés cher alors que c'est beaucoup moins joli...
Bonjour,
Nous avons fait un périple au chili pendant 4 semaines l année derniere en octobre / novembre. Budget : 8000 € pour deux Nous n'avons pris aucune excursion organisé, car le pays est sur et qu'en voiture tout est bien indiqué ! Les tours sont très cher et vous n avez pas la meme liberté qu avec votre voiture .. arret dès qu un paysage en vaut le coup ou si vous apercevez des animaux. Pour la loc de voiture le site auto escape est TB , bon prix. Pour les hotels je peux vous recommender le site booking.com pour les grandes villes ou sinon je vous donnerai des adresses en MP d hebergement tres sympa à - 70 € / nuit. Pour les restau les prix sont corrects , tres bon repas pour environ 20 / 25 € avec vins. Que vous dire d autres ... prenez des vols interieurs mais il faut les réserver sur un site chilien c est beaucoup moins cher qu en europe. Nous avons fait 5 vols interieurs pour 600 € pour 2.
A votre dispo pour répondre à toutes vos questions.
Notre trip : Nord au Sud Arica / Putre / Lauca / Atacama / Chiloe / region des lacs / Patagonie / Santiago / Valparaison et regions des vins.
hélène
Nous avons fait un périple au chili pendant 4 semaines l année derniere en octobre / novembre. Budget : 8000 € pour deux Nous n'avons pris aucune excursion organisé, car le pays est sur et qu'en voiture tout est bien indiqué ! Les tours sont très cher et vous n avez pas la meme liberté qu avec votre voiture .. arret dès qu un paysage en vaut le coup ou si vous apercevez des animaux. Pour la loc de voiture le site auto escape est TB , bon prix. Pour les hotels je peux vous recommender le site booking.com pour les grandes villes ou sinon je vous donnerai des adresses en MP d hebergement tres sympa à - 70 € / nuit. Pour les restau les prix sont corrects , tres bon repas pour environ 20 / 25 € avec vins. Que vous dire d autres ... prenez des vols interieurs mais il faut les réserver sur un site chilien c est beaucoup moins cher qu en europe. Nous avons fait 5 vols interieurs pour 600 € pour 2.
A votre dispo pour répondre à toutes vos questions.
Notre trip : Nord au Sud Arica / Putre / Lauca / Atacama / Chiloe / region des lacs / Patagonie / Santiago / Valparaison et regions des vins.
hélène
Juste une petite précision par rapport à ce qui été dis plus haut, et sans aucune animosité:
Je confirme d'une part que les restos a Chili sont tops, vous ne serez pas déçus de la qualité.
Je préfère d'autre part annoncer que vivant en partie au Chili, et donc connaissant les prix, on peut manger, par personne, pour moins de 3000 pesos (5 euros), sans vin, des repas plus que copieux et de très bonne qualité. Du type congre en sauce + salade chilienne.
Je préfère avertir que c'est possible.
Et si vous êtes plus chanceux (la il faut souvent un peu plus connaître car il faut sortir du coin ou les touristes vont), on trouve la même qualité, pour seulement 2000 pesos:
A Hurtado, j'ai bouffé chez une vielle Mapuche exilé loin de son Aracaunia natale, pour 2000 pesos, entrée de salade chilienne plus que garnie, cazuela chilienne (en gros une soupe type pot au feu), et un beafteaks accompagné de légume).
Il suffit de chercher un tout petit peu, parfois, et de sortir du coin touristique.
Profitez bien de votre voyage au Chili, c'est un pays merveilleux ! et bien trop eu le savent !
Profitez bien de votre voyage au Chili, c'est un pays merveilleux ! et bien trop eu le savent !
Surtout n'hésite pas à me demander quoique soit, j'essayerai bien sur de répondre dans la limite du possible !
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I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine