Merci beaucoup!
Prix de l'entrée pour le Machu Picchu, nécessité du guide?
by Jude1983
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour à tous,
je suis nouvelle sur ce forum et j'ai vraiment besoin de vos lumières!
Je suis actuellement à Arequipa en stage (pour préciser que je ne suis pas là en touriste et que je n'ai pas un budget énorme!).je veux aller à Cuzco et au Machu Picchu cette semaine (je peux rester 3 /4 jours).j'y vais avec un ami péruvien, étudiant.Nous avons un budget très limité, surtout lui.En lisant les discussions de ce forum j'ai eu un doute:est-il possible de se rendre directement de cuzco au machu picchu?sans payer un tour, un guide etc??Y a til un tarif réduit pour léentrée du machu picchui pour les péruviens?
Merci beaucoup!
Merci beaucoup!
Bonjour,
Pour les Péruviens, j'avoue ne pas savoir... Sinon, tu n'es pas obligé de passer par une agence. Il y a la possibilité train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes, assez cher (35, 50 US$, idem pour le retour). Sinon, pour moins cher, j'ai rencontré des français qui on fait une partie en bus et le reste à pieds. Cette possibilité est décrite ici : http://www.routard.com/forum_message/1140580/aller_au_macchupichu_en_bus_et_a_pied_depuis_cuzco.htm
Ensuite, pour faire Aguas Calientes - Machu Picchu, tu as soit le bus (6US$ la montée, idem pour la redescente), soit les pieds. La montée est rude (que des escaliers en pierres), mais faisable (je l'ai fait, et je ne suis pas sportivedu tout !) Et d'y aller à pieds, c'est gratuit !
Il y a bien sur l'entrée du Machu Picchu à payer (120, 50 soles)
Le guide, ceux qui en ont pris un te diront que c'est surement necessaire, moi je n'en ai pas pris, et je ne le regrette pas. J'ai visité le site à mon rythme...
En tous cas, si tu peux le faire, passe la nuit précédente à Aguas Calientes pour voir le soleil se lever sur la Machu Picchu le lendemain matin. Franchement, c'est magnifique !! 😎
Pour les Péruviens, j'avoue ne pas savoir... Sinon, tu n'es pas obligé de passer par une agence. Il y a la possibilité train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes, assez cher (35, 50 US$, idem pour le retour). Sinon, pour moins cher, j'ai rencontré des français qui on fait une partie en bus et le reste à pieds. Cette possibilité est décrite ici : http://www.routard.com/forum_message/1140580/aller_au_macchupichu_en_bus_et_a_pied_depuis_cuzco.htm
Ensuite, pour faire Aguas Calientes - Machu Picchu, tu as soit le bus (6US$ la montée, idem pour la redescente), soit les pieds. La montée est rude (que des escaliers en pierres), mais faisable (je l'ai fait, et je ne suis pas sportivedu tout !) Et d'y aller à pieds, c'est gratuit !
Il y a bien sur l'entrée du Machu Picchu à payer (120, 50 soles)
Le guide, ceux qui en ont pris un te diront que c'est surement necessaire, moi je n'en ai pas pris, et je ne le regrette pas. J'ai visité le site à mon rythme...
En tous cas, si tu peux le faire, passe la nuit précédente à Aguas Calientes pour voir le soleil se lever sur la Machu Picchu le lendemain matin. Franchement, c'est magnifique !! 😎
Tous mes voyages en images : sur mon blog
Aucun besoin de guide ou de tour.
Oui, l'entree est nettement moins chere pour les Peruviens et pour les etudiants si tu as une carte ne l'oublies pas ¡¡¡ De Cusco tu peux aller en colectivo jusqu'a Ollantaytambo, via Pisac qui vaut aussi la visite ¡ (pour ca il te faut le billet touristique achete a l'OT de Cusco, vraiment rentable surtout si vous y restez quelques jours) par ce biais cela devra te revenir a 2/3 soles, il y a 2 ans j'ai paye 1.5s donc ... pour le train, prenez le depart du soir avec retour le surlendemain matin, c'est 50% de moins, sinon la grimpette. Sur place vous avez des campings sinon les hotels dans les 10 soles, gaffe a ne pas etre proche du rio si vous optez pour le c.municipal, en cas de pluie le fleuve peut deborder tres vite ...
Oui, l'entree est nettement moins chere pour les Peruviens et pour les etudiants si tu as une carte ne l'oublies pas ¡¡¡ De Cusco tu peux aller en colectivo jusqu'a Ollantaytambo, via Pisac qui vaut aussi la visite ¡ (pour ca il te faut le billet touristique achete a l'OT de Cusco, vraiment rentable surtout si vous y restez quelques jours) par ce biais cela devra te revenir a 2/3 soles, il y a 2 ans j'ai paye 1.5s donc ... pour le train, prenez le depart du soir avec retour le surlendemain matin, c'est 50% de moins, sinon la grimpette. Sur place vous avez des campings sinon les hotels dans les 10 soles, gaffe a ne pas etre proche du rio si vous optez pour le c.municipal, en cas de pluie le fleuve peut deborder tres vite ...
pour les peruvien qui sont de la region de cusco ca va ne doit pas etre chere
mais cepandent je sais que le dimance c gratuit pour eux ...
alors rensegine toi pour les touriste peruvien qui ne sont pas de la region de cusco appel a l'info touriste de cusco
je pensse me rappeler que le prix pour les visiteur peruviene ete assez demesure .
en ce qui conserne
_le guide pas besoin
_ le transport le matin parter en bus de preference le premier a 5h ci je me rapel bien puis le soir redessente a pieds tranquile sur ag
alors voila tous bon voyage le lieux et manifique rende-vous tres tot le matin moins de monde donc en profite plus a plus sur le forum
_le guide pas besoin
_ le transport le matin parter en bus de preference le premier a 5h ci je me rapel bien puis le soir redessente a pieds tranquile sur ag
alors voila tous bon voyage le lieux et manifique rende-vous tres tot le matin moins de monde donc en profite plus a plus sur le forum
Salut!
Je suis allé au Perou il y a deux ans, à l'époque (mais les prix ont augmenté depuis!) tu pouvais prendre un bus pas cher pour ollantaytambo, ensuite prendre le train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes (20 dollars pour les touristes, beaucoup moins pour les Péruviens), aller au Machu Picchu à pied, 10 dollars l'entrée avec la carte ISIC et beaucoup beaucoup moins pour les péruviens. Je ne me souviens pas du prix pour les péruviens mais la différence était vraiment énorme!
Prends en compte le fait que les prix ont augmenté depuis, mais rassure toi, il n'y a rien d'impossible pour les petits budgets (j'étais en stage aussi!)
Ciao et surtout profite bien!
Marco
Salut,
Je confirme, pas besoin de guide ! Si vous avez du temps et une bonne condition physique, la solution la plus économique consiste à prendre un collectivo jusqu'à Ollantaytambo (le plus tôt possible), puis un autre jusqu'au km82, puis à marcher le long de la voie de chemin de fer jusqu'à Aguas Caliente : 28 km que nous avons fait en 6h... comme c'est en fond de vallée, c'est assez plat, mais pas très confortable pour les pieds, car il faut souvent marcher sur les rails. Vous croiserez pas mal de péruviens qui empruntent aussi ce chemin. Bonne balade, c'est vraiment un coin superbe !
Tit
PS : Ne pas oublier de prendre une lampe de poche en cas d'arrivée un peu tardive à Aguas Calientes et pour aller voir le lever et/ou le coucher du soleil sur le Machu !
Je confirme, pas besoin de guide ! Si vous avez du temps et une bonne condition physique, la solution la plus économique consiste à prendre un collectivo jusqu'à Ollantaytambo (le plus tôt possible), puis un autre jusqu'au km82, puis à marcher le long de la voie de chemin de fer jusqu'à Aguas Caliente : 28 km que nous avons fait en 6h... comme c'est en fond de vallée, c'est assez plat, mais pas très confortable pour les pieds, car il faut souvent marcher sur les rails. Vous croiserez pas mal de péruviens qui empruntent aussi ce chemin. Bonne balade, c'est vraiment un coin superbe !
Tit
PS : Ne pas oublier de prendre une lampe de poche en cas d'arrivée un peu tardive à Aguas Calientes et pour aller voir le lever et/ou le coucher du soleil sur le Machu !
Salut,
J'y serai vers le 10 septembre. Je comprends qu'on peut donc se débrouiller seuls sans guide du moment qu'on ne prend pas le trek de l'Inca?
Je pense faire le trek du Salcantay ou le petit trek de l'Inca. Combien de temps à l'avance faut-il (si c'est nécessaire) réserver le train pour rentrer d'aguas calientes, le premier bus vers le macchu pichu, l'entrée au site... Ce n'est pas réglementé comme le trek si j'ai bien compris, mais on ne doit pas être seuls!!
Enfin, pour prévoir un petit sommet dans la région, peut-on se débrouiller sur place pour trouver des mules sans passer par une agence? Il n'y avait jamais de pbs en Bolivie ou vers Huaraz.
Merci pour vos réponses et suggestions alternatives! FB
J'y serai vers le 10 septembre. Je comprends qu'on peut donc se débrouiller seuls sans guide du moment qu'on ne prend pas le trek de l'Inca?
Je pense faire le trek du Salcantay ou le petit trek de l'Inca. Combien de temps à l'avance faut-il (si c'est nécessaire) réserver le train pour rentrer d'aguas calientes, le premier bus vers le macchu pichu, l'entrée au site... Ce n'est pas réglementé comme le trek si j'ai bien compris, mais on ne doit pas être seuls!!
Enfin, pour prévoir un petit sommet dans la région, peut-on se débrouiller sur place pour trouver des mules sans passer par une agence? Il n'y avait jamais de pbs en Bolivie ou vers Huaraz.
Merci pour vos réponses et suggestions alternatives! FB
Bonjour,
Quand j'y suis allée, il y a 2 ans, les guides n'étaient obligatoires que pour faire le chemin de l'Inca. C'est comme cela qu'ils contrôlent le nombre de touristes qui emprûntent ce chemin. Pour le bus qui va au Machu, pas besoin de réserver... (pas besoin également de le prendre : la montée se fait en 1h15/1h30 et la descente est bien plus rapide). Pour revenir d'Aguas Calientes, tu peux prendre ton billet de train le jour même sans réserver. Le guichet est ouvert environ 1h avant chaque départ de train (du moins pour ceux qui sont dans la journée, je ne suis pas allée vérifier pour celui qui est aux aurores). Pour les mules, je ne sais pas, on en a souvent croisées, mais jamais utilisées. Bon voyage.
Tit
Quand j'y suis allée, il y a 2 ans, les guides n'étaient obligatoires que pour faire le chemin de l'Inca. C'est comme cela qu'ils contrôlent le nombre de touristes qui emprûntent ce chemin. Pour le bus qui va au Machu, pas besoin de réserver... (pas besoin également de le prendre : la montée se fait en 1h15/1h30 et la descente est bien plus rapide). Pour revenir d'Aguas Calientes, tu peux prendre ton billet de train le jour même sans réserver. Le guichet est ouvert environ 1h avant chaque départ de train (du moins pour ceux qui sont dans la journée, je ne suis pas allée vérifier pour celui qui est aux aurores). Pour les mules, je ne sais pas, on en a souvent croisées, mais jamais utilisées. Bon voyage.
Tit
salut Jude,
Marrant je suis moi aussi en stage a arequipa avec ma copine. Si tu veux boire un verre un de ces 4 fais moi signe. Donc deja pas besoin de guide, tu y vas par tes propres moyens sans souci. Par contre c'est tres cher. Si tu as ta carte etudiant ca sera moins cher, je sais plus combien. Donc t'as 2 solutions, soi prendre le train jusqu'a aguas calientes, soit aller a olltaytambo (je sais plus comment ca s'ecrit) en taxi (ca coute rien) puis prendre un train jusqu'au villauge de pichu pichu si je me souviens bien. Mais le tout j'¡en ai bien eu pour 100 euros, c'est pas donné.
Voila a bientot peut etre
Marrant je suis moi aussi en stage a arequipa avec ma copine. Si tu veux boire un verre un de ces 4 fais moi signe. Donc deja pas besoin de guide, tu y vas par tes propres moyens sans souci. Par contre c'est tres cher. Si tu as ta carte etudiant ca sera moins cher, je sais plus combien. Donc t'as 2 solutions, soi prendre le train jusqu'a aguas calientes, soit aller a olltaytambo (je sais plus comment ca s'ecrit) en taxi (ca coute rien) puis prendre un train jusqu'au villauge de pichu pichu si je me souviens bien. Mais le tout j'¡en ai bien eu pour 100 euros, c'est pas donné.
Voila a bientot peut etre
Bonjour a tous,
nous sommes actuellement en tour du monde avec ma copine, et on vetu bien evidement aller au machu pichu. Le probleme, c'est est ce que'on fait le chemin de l'inca? il parait que c'est hyper cher et qu'il faut reserver hyper en avance. On y sera vers le 10 septembre normalement. Est-ce que vous pensez qu'il vaut le coup de monter pendant 4 jours à 15 avec un guide? combien a peut couter?
Merci des infos.
Coolgeff
qui veut voyager loin ... enfin bon tout le monde la connait celle là
salut Julien 😉
J'ai regardé un peu au niveau des réservations, tout semble plein jusqu'à mi octobre. tu dis que ton agence peut proposer des tours 😮 ? on est intéressés, n'hésite pas à me contacter pour me donner des détails.
qui veut voyager loin ... enfin bon tout le monde la connait celle là
ayé je suis de retour!merci beaucoup pour tous vos précieux conseils!
Je suis saine et sauve et enchantée, meme si après 6 jours de voyage je susi un peu fatiguée (et je reprends le boulot aujourdhui!)
je mets tout de suite un nouveau message pour actualiser les prix du machu picchu et donner les dernières infos
cuidense
ps:julien;pas de souçi, on peut essayer de se capter!par contre avec les fetes d'arequipa qui commencent, ca va etre un peu la folie.tu bosses dans quoi?ou?(moi je suis en stage a l'ispa, connu aussi comme el pedagogico de Caima.
cuidense
ps:julien;pas de souçi, on peut essayer de se capter!par contre avec les fetes d'arequipa qui commencent, ca va etre un peu la folie.tu bosses dans quoi?ou?(moi je suis en stage a l'ispa, connu aussi comme el pedagogico de Caima.
salut,
Ouais je viens de regarder, il n'y a pas de disponibilites pour le chemin Inca avant le 26 Octobre. Pour info, le site pour voir les dispos c'est http://www.inc-cusco.gob.pe/
Ce que je te proposais coolgeff c'est une route alternative qu'on propose quand il n'y a pas de disponibilites. C'est en fait un nouveau chemin, aussi beau et qui se termine aussi au Machu Picchu. Bien sur il n'a pas la meme reputation, il a ete cree il y a peu. Si ca t'interesse, tu peux m'ecrire a incaventura@hotmail.com, je te donnerai tous les renseignements. Je peux pas le faire ici au risque d'etre censure alors j'attends ton mail.
A bientot
Ouais je viens de regarder, il n'y a pas de disponibilites pour le chemin Inca avant le 26 Octobre. Pour info, le site pour voir les dispos c'est http://www.inc-cusco.gob.pe/
Ce que je te proposais coolgeff c'est une route alternative qu'on propose quand il n'y a pas de disponibilites. C'est en fait un nouveau chemin, aussi beau et qui se termine aussi au Machu Picchu. Bien sur il n'a pas la meme reputation, il a ete cree il y a peu. Si ca t'interesse, tu peux m'ecrire a incaventura@hotmail.com, je te donnerai tous les renseignements. Je peux pas le faire ici au risque d'etre censure alors j'attends ton mail.
A bientot
salut, je suis presentement a santiago au chili, et lundi je pars pour le peru, mais en bus, donc je sais plus peut un truck comme 2 jours, enfin bref, je conte aussi faire ca pour peut de moyen, donc dis moi si on ni vas pour la meme periode??
et si tu es deja allé bas dis moi comment tu as fait stp, moi je pence partir comme ca sans guide, rien, donc je vais galeré mais on aime ca finalement!
merci de me repondre, a plus ciao
morgan
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍