De retour du Caire: insécurité pour les touristes
by Gazelle78
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous rentrons du Caire et voulions mettre en garde les touristes voulant s'y rendre.
L'insécurité est partout.
Agression par des jeunes autour de notre voiture proche des pyramides, jets de parpaings sur notre voiture par des hommes cagoulés, manifestation en pleine rue où notre taxi passait (hommes avec battes de baseball, mitraillettes ....)
Nous avons eu très peur pour notre sécurité.
Je confirme que ces agressions et manifestations n'étaient pas seulement sur la place Tarir !
Vu que les touristes ont déserté Le Caire, certains egyptiens sont prêts à tout pour avoir de l'argent.
Nous avons été harcelés sur le site de Gizeh des pyramides.
Nous ne sommes pas prêts de retourner un jour au Caire dans de telles conditions.
vous avez eu des explications sur cela ? (je demande cela sans aucun esprit polémique). qui sont visés ? ls occidentaux en général ? les français ? autre chose ?
Bonsoir,
Je voulais juste prévenir des personnes qui souhaitent aller au Caire. Que les gens sachent ce qu'il se passe.
Les touristes sont visés, c'est certain, en ce qui concerne le site des pyramides. Ils veulent nous dépouiller pour avoir un peu d'argent, et sont très agressifs.
En ce qui concerne les jets de pierres et les manifestations, j'ai su qu'il s'agissait d'un mécontentement suite à un match de foot à, Port Saïd !
Malheureusement pour nous, nous nous trouvions à cet endroit à ce moment là.
ok ; merci
Bonsoir,
Je voulais juste prévenir des personnes qui souhaitent aller au Caire. Que les gens sachent ce qu'il se passe.
Les touristes sont visés, c'est certain, en ce qui concerne le site des pyramides. Ils veulent nous dépouiller pour avoir un peu d'argent, et sont très agressifs.
En ce qui concerne les jets de pierres et les manifestations, j'ai su qu'il s'agissait d'un mécontentement suite à un match de foot à, Port Saïd !
Malheureusement pour nous, nous nous trouvions à cet endroit à ce moment là.
Je rentre du caire, je dirais tout le contraire. Comme quoi!.. La règle que nous avons appliqué, ne jamais resté à proximité d'une manifs. Pour Gizeh, nous étions sur place avec nos enfants, aucun problèmes. effectivement, il y a beaucoup de jeunes qui essayent de vous vendre des trucs icic et là. Ils faut être ferme.
Avons dormis dans un hôtel à 200m de la place tarhir le dernier, flâner et fais des achats dans le alentours, aucun problèmes avec qui que se soit, et je redirais encore, au contraire! Mais qu'avez vous fait en Egypte?
Je rentre du caire, je dirais tout le contraire. Comme quoi!.. La règle que nous avons appliqué, ne jamais resté à proximité d'une manifs. Pour Gizeh, nous étions sur place avec nos enfants, aucun problèmes. effectivement, il y a beaucoup de jeunes qui essayent de vous vendre des trucs icic et là. Ils faut être ferme.
Avons dormis dans un hôtel à 200m de la place tarhir le dernier, flâner et fais des achats dans le alentours, aucun problèmes avec qui que se soit, et je redirais encore, au contraire! Mais qu'avez vous fait en Egypte?
Tant mieux pour vous et vos enfants.
Nous rentrions d'une semaine passée à Hurghada et voulions passer la journée au Caire.
Agressés en taxi (le Consulat français est au courant pour ces agressions en voiture très récentes), puis nous longions le nil en taxi quand des hommes cagoulés ont jeté des parpaings sur toutes les voitures pour finir dans une manifestation surprise suite aux résultats d'un match de foot très contestés à Port Said.
Le Consulat m'a confirmé qu'en ce moment, la moindre contrariété faisait réagir Le Caire et qu'il n'y avait plus de touristes français au Caire. Je confirme.
Le site des pyramides était vide de touristes ... il parait que c'est du jamais vu.
Nous voyageons beaucoup, mais nous n'avions jamais rencontré autant d'insécurité dans une ville et connu autant d'agressivité.
C'est dommage, car le pays est magnifique.
Pas de soucis à Hurghada ... il y a trop de touristes.
Juste des chauffeurs de taxi qui ne sont pas très corrects ... disent que vous n'avez donner que tant de billets et pas le chiffre exact ... il sont tous comme ça.
Ou bien ils rajoutent une somme à l'arrivée ... mais rien de bien méchant, juste un peu d'arnaque.
Mais si vous tenez ça en compte, tout va bien. Il faut être ferme sur les prix et ne plus négocier le prix avec eux.
Ils essaient toujours, mais avec moi, ça ne marche pas.
On a rencontré des gens charmants à part ça, notre guide de plongée, personnel sur la plage ...
Rien à voir avec La Caire.
Merci, je compte aller soit à Sharm, soit à Hurghada pour plonger, mais mon mari n'est pas très chaud.
J'essaie encore ce week end de le convraincre, autrement cela lui coûtera plus cher si je choisis les îles 😉
Beaucoup de touristes ne veut rien dire, rappelez-vous l'attentat de Louxor en 1997 ...
Revil
J'essaie encore ce week end de le convraincre, autrement cela lui coûtera plus cher si je choisis les îles 😉
Beaucoup de touristes ne veut rien dire, rappelez-vous l'attentat de Louxor en 1997 ...
Revil
Nous y étions le week-end dernier, et les faits sont là.
Je ne veux pas polémiquer sur la situation au Caire, mais je veux juste expliquer ce que nous avons vécu au Caire.
Le consulat français au Caire en est bien conscient.
Après cette expérience, je peux affirmer qu'il fait bon vivre à Paris.
« manifestation en pleine rue où notre taxi passait (hommes avec battes de baseball, mitraillettes ....) «
Votre imagination vous joue des tours. Personne n’a de « mitraillettes » au Caire.
Les jets de parpaing par des fans de foot énervés que leur équipe ait perdu, c’est débile mais ca arrive aussi en Europe.
Votre imagination vous joue des tours. Personne n’a de « mitraillettes » au Caire.
Les jets de parpaing par des fans de foot énervés que leur équipe ait perdu, c’est débile mais ca arrive aussi en Europe.
Je voulais retourner en Égypte pour une deuxième fois (car il y a tellement de choses que je n’ai pas vu!) Mais je ne le ferai jamais dans ces conditions… j’aime sortir des sentiers battus mais je ne suis pas suicidaire…et je suis loin d’être un trouillard, pas besoin d’un tout-inclus pour moi! Bien dommage tout ça!
"On ne va jamais aussi loin que lorsqu'on ne sait pas où l'on va."
(Christophe Colomb)
Bonjour,
je reviens de 15j (rentrée jeudi 14 mars) en Égypte où nous sommes partis en couple sans agence et je peux vous assurer aussi que nous n'avons rien ressenti de ce qui a été décrit. Nous avons passé 3j au Caire et en effet place Tahrir, il peut y avoir des manifestations, mais partout ailleurs, aucun problème, nous nous sommes baladés seuls sans difficultés et avons juste contourné la place Tahrir pour aller au musée ! Au pire, zappez le Caire mais ne zappez pas l'Egypte... à Louxor et Assouan il n'y a pas l'ombre d'une agressivité, les égyptiens attendent juste les touristes et vous serez très très bien accueilli.
je reviens de 15j (rentrée jeudi 14 mars) en Égypte où nous sommes partis en couple sans agence et je peux vous assurer aussi que nous n'avons rien ressenti de ce qui a été décrit. Nous avons passé 3j au Caire et en effet place Tahrir, il peut y avoir des manifestations, mais partout ailleurs, aucun problème, nous nous sommes baladés seuls sans difficultés et avons juste contourné la place Tahrir pour aller au musée ! Au pire, zappez le Caire mais ne zappez pas l'Egypte... à Louxor et Assouan il n'y a pas l'ombre d'une agressivité, les égyptiens attendent juste les touristes et vous serez très très bien accueilli.
Anne
« Mais quand il n'y a plus de touristes dans un pays comme l'Egypte ... on peut se poser des questions.
Je vivais au Kenya lors des précédentes élections (200*0, le pays s’est littéralement vidé de ses touristes pendant plus d’un an, alors qu’il n’y avait plus le moindre danger deux mois après les élections. A l’époque, tous les expats et leurs familles multipliaient les safaris et les séjours à la plage car les tarifs avaient baissé de moitié. Même chose actuellement en Egypte.
Je vivais au Kenya lors des précédentes élections (200*0, le pays s’est littéralement vidé de ses touristes pendant plus d’un an, alors qu’il n’y avait plus le moindre danger deux mois après les élections. A l’époque, tous les expats et leurs familles multipliaient les safaris et les séjours à la plage car les tarifs avaient baissé de moitié. Même chose actuellement en Egypte.
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Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies




