Voyage en Patagonie chilienne et argentine en novembre-décembre 2009
by Isabelgaudie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Voila, le compte à rebours est lancé. Dans un an je retourne en Patagonie. Six ans après un premier voyage. J'aimerais prendre mon temps. Pas forcément voir le plus d'endroits possibles mais découvrir des ambiances, faire des rencontres rares, contempler la démesure de la nature australe.
Merci de partager vos coups de coeur, j'établirai mon itinéraire en fonction. Quelqu'un peut il me parler de caleta Tortel ? des bonnes adresses de Punta Arena, Puerto Williams, Puerto natales ? J'aimerais aussi franchir le Cap Horn en voilier, voire en kayak de mer. Qui peut me renseigner? est-il aussi possible de loger chez l'habitant ?
Merci de vos contributions
Isabel
Isabel
Bonsoir
ah quelle chance tu as ! 🙂
"...faire des rencontres rares..." Celles que j'ai faites tu ne pourras pas les refaire et celles que tu comptes faire, automatiquement, je ne les ai pas effectuées...sinon elles ne seraient plus rares 😉
Difficile de partager mes coups de coeur, la Patagonie dans son intégralité est un coup de coeur 🙂 D'ailleurs, tu le sais puisque tu y retournes. Pas besoin par exemple de te parler du Parc de Torres del Paine, n'est-ce pas ? Caleta Tortel : un coin de paradis. Je n'y suis resté que 2 jours, mais j'aurai bien prolongé mon séjour tant cet endroit respire la plénitude. Le coin est splendide. Et que dire de la vie sur ce village dans lequel on ne circule qu'à pieds sur des passerelles. Puerto Natales : Ville sympathique, ni trop grande, ni trop petite. Je n'y resterai pas une semaine, mais je l'ai trouvée plutôt agréable. Je n'ai pas de bonnes adresses à te donner. J'ai aimé les différents endroits où j'ai mangé, ou j'ai bu, où j'ai fait du shopping, voire les magasins dans lesquels je suis entré juste pour le plaisir d'être là, de regarder et d'entendre parler les commerçants chiliens. Puerto Arena : Autre style : cela fait plus ville. Une jolie place, quelques jolis monuments. Une colline où il est agréable de flâner et d'embrasser d'un seul regard (ou presque) la ville et son port. Et de nouveau des restaurants sympas où j'ai apprécié la nourriture et la boisson. Mais au fait, y a-t-il des endroits au Chili où l'on mange mal et dans lesquels le vin n'est pas bon ? 🙂
Bon allez Thierry, calme toi. Ce n'est pas toi qui repars ! 🤪😇
Bon voyage
PS : Je ne connais pas la Terre de Feu et n'ai pas logé chez l'habitant.
ah quelle chance tu as ! 🙂
"...faire des rencontres rares..." Celles que j'ai faites tu ne pourras pas les refaire et celles que tu comptes faire, automatiquement, je ne les ai pas effectuées...sinon elles ne seraient plus rares 😉
Difficile de partager mes coups de coeur, la Patagonie dans son intégralité est un coup de coeur 🙂 D'ailleurs, tu le sais puisque tu y retournes. Pas besoin par exemple de te parler du Parc de Torres del Paine, n'est-ce pas ? Caleta Tortel : un coin de paradis. Je n'y suis resté que 2 jours, mais j'aurai bien prolongé mon séjour tant cet endroit respire la plénitude. Le coin est splendide. Et que dire de la vie sur ce village dans lequel on ne circule qu'à pieds sur des passerelles. Puerto Natales : Ville sympathique, ni trop grande, ni trop petite. Je n'y resterai pas une semaine, mais je l'ai trouvée plutôt agréable. Je n'ai pas de bonnes adresses à te donner. J'ai aimé les différents endroits où j'ai mangé, ou j'ai bu, où j'ai fait du shopping, voire les magasins dans lesquels je suis entré juste pour le plaisir d'être là, de regarder et d'entendre parler les commerçants chiliens. Puerto Arena : Autre style : cela fait plus ville. Une jolie place, quelques jolis monuments. Une colline où il est agréable de flâner et d'embrasser d'un seul regard (ou presque) la ville et son port. Et de nouveau des restaurants sympas où j'ai apprécié la nourriture et la boisson. Mais au fait, y a-t-il des endroits au Chili où l'on mange mal et dans lesquels le vin n'est pas bon ? 🙂
Bon allez Thierry, calme toi. Ce n'est pas toi qui repars ! 🤪😇
Bon voyage
PS : Je ne connais pas la Terre de Feu et n'ai pas logé chez l'habitant.
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
Ola Isavelle
Comme toi, nous avons été envouté parla Patagonie argenetine et Chilienne, Du coup nous y sommes retournés 4 mois, avec notre Combi VW.
La Patagonie Chilienne est certainement la plus sauvage et la plus belle. Nous sommes descendus jusqu'à VILLA O'Higgins au fin fond de la carretera australe et là que du bonheur. Isolemment total garanti, mais des gens sympa qui nous ont acceuillis les bras ouverts.
En décembre tu peux quitter Villa O'Higgins pour rejoinde EL Chalten, en prenant un petit bateau, puis marche à pied à travers les montagnes.. et rejoindre Clafate, et desendre ensuite vers le grand Sud.
Si tu cherches à sortir des sentiers battus c'est qq chose qu'il faut faire..
La région de Puerto Montt, magnifique....Barriloche, aussi, Sarmiento, et tant d'autres coins d'ou nous n'avons gardés que de bons souvenirs, tant l'acceuil des Patagons fut extrême de gentillesse et fraternité
Plus au sud, Rio grande, et Ushuaia à ne pas louper à mon avis... Tout autour de ces 2 villes y plein de choses à faire et à voir....si on est curieux et qu'on s'intersse à la nature sauvage et aux animaux pOUR finir, je te dirais qu'on a qu'une envie, c'est d'y retourner une troisième fois. bon voyage Christian http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chancelaye83/
N'hésite pas à nous contacter si besoin
La région de Puerto Montt, magnifique....Barriloche, aussi, Sarmiento, et tant d'autres coins d'ou nous n'avons gardés que de bons souvenirs, tant l'acceuil des Patagons fut extrême de gentillesse et fraternité
Plus au sud, Rio grande, et Ushuaia à ne pas louper à mon avis... Tout autour de ces 2 villes y plein de choses à faire et à voir....si on est curieux et qu'on s'intersse à la nature sauvage et aux animaux pOUR finir, je te dirais qu'on a qu'une envie, c'est d'y retourner une troisième fois. bon voyage Christian http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chancelaye83/
N'hésite pas à nous contacter si besoin
Merci Thierry et Christian du partage de vos expériences. Je crois bien que je vais programmer la carreterra austral jusqu'à Villa O'Higgins en faisant le détour par Chiloë.
Y a t'il des traversées entre Quellon par exemple et Chaiten.
Je pense utiliser les bus locaux pour des raisons de coût. Faut il réserver à l'avance ou peut-on improviser?
Je n'abandonne pas mon envie de doubler le Cap Horn. Qui aurait des infos sur les mini-croisières Cap Horn et glaciers sur voilier proposées par des agences de rando.
Isabel
Holà
moi aussi j'y retournerai bien quelle chance, va biensur faire un tour à Chiloé j'y suis résté 4 semaines c'est un endroit envoutant plein de mystère.J'ai pris un bateau quellon Chaiten mais à l'époque ou le volcan n'avait pas encore explosé, je me rappel tres bien de cette petite ville toute tranquille.Apres j'ai fait de belles rencontre à Cohiaique en ballade et biensur au parc torres del paine et punta arenas, la prochaine fois que j'y retourne je ne manquerai pas la terre de feu ue je ne connais pas
très bon voyage a toi.
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un petit blog sur le voyage en amerique du sud que j'ai fait en 2006 -2007😎
Il n'est pas pire aveugle que celui qui ne veut pas voir.
Salut,
Bon tes petits orteils et tes yeux peuvent être tranquilles. Pour les premiers, le soleil de novembre chasse peu à peu le froid de cet hiver et pour les seconds, le spectacle est toujours aussi beau et impressionant.
En température, on commence à atteindre les 10° ce qui est plutôt appréciable. En Terre de feu, il fait un peu plus frais (autour de 8°) mais comme ce n'est pas le plus intéressant en patagonie, on n'y reste pas longtemps c'est donc très supportable.
la patagonie se compose en gros de trois types de paysages et le plus intéressant est la patagonie andine. A cette époque, pourquoi ne pas faire la patagonie atlantique. Moins impressionante par ses paysages mais stupéfiante par les baleines et les orques qui s'ébattent en mer à cette période.
Voilà, je te souhaite une bonne préparation et à bientôt;
N'hésite pas si tu as besoin
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Bonjour,
Je souhaite partir en patagonie en janvier 2009.. Ma première question est de savoir si ce n'est pas trop tardif comme préparatif (les prix des billets d'avions sont encore abordables)? Certaiens personnes m'ont suggéré de préparer ce voyage entre 6 mois et 1 an à l'avance.
Si la réponse à la première question est non, quel est le parcours qui me permettra de voir le plus de choses sans pour autant faire une course contre la montre😉(3 semaines sur place)..
Merci pour vos réponses,
Jean Etienne
Je souhaite partir en patagonie en janvier 2009.. Ma première question est de savoir si ce n'est pas trop tardif comme préparatif (les prix des billets d'avions sont encore abordables)? Certaiens personnes m'ont suggéré de préparer ce voyage entre 6 mois et 1 an à l'avance.
Si la réponse à la première question est non, quel est le parcours qui me permettra de voir le plus de choses sans pour autant faire une course contre la montre😉(3 semaines sur place)..
Merci pour vos réponses,
Jean Etienne
Bonsoir
Tu ne dis pas si tu arrives par Buenos Aires ou par Santiago.
Si tu arrives par Santiago, en 3 semaines, tu as le temps de filer vers les Torres del paine, prévois plusieurs jours de trek, tu peux aussi faire le tour du Fitz Roy, descendre à Puerto Natales, naviguer jusqu'aux glaciers Balmaceda et Serrano, rejoindre Calafate et le Perito Moreno et pousser jusqu'à Punta Arena si tu peux remonter par un vol intérieur.
Je pense qu'en 3 semaines, tu n'auras pas le temps de passer en Terre de feu ni par la Péninsule de Valdès, il faudra revenir !
Par contre, garde 1 ou 2 jours pour aller à Valparaiso,
Voila, bonne préparation. Si tu as des conseils à ton retour n'hésite pas, je prépare mon voyage pour novembre 2009 et j'ai beaucoup de mal à faire mes choix !!
Isabel
Isabel
Bonjour,
Nous partons chaque année 2 mois avec notre petite fille qui aura 4 ans cette année. Nous envisageons de découvrir la Patagonie en novembre et décembre 2009. Pour des raisons de budget, est-il intéressant et raisonnable de prévoir de faire du camping ? la location de voiture est-elle aussi une bonne idée ? Le projet est à son début et on tatonne un peu... toutes les idées sont les bienvenues. 😉
jacques, Chloé et Noa
Nous partons chaque année 2 mois avec notre petite fille qui aura 4 ans cette année. Nous envisageons de découvrir la Patagonie en novembre et décembre 2009. Pour des raisons de budget, est-il intéressant et raisonnable de prévoir de faire du camping ? la location de voiture est-elle aussi une bonne idée ? Le projet est à son début et on tatonne un peu... toutes les idées sont les bienvenues. 😉
jacques, Chloé et Noa
En Argentine le camping est financierement interessant, sutout si, dans votre cazs, vous ne voulez pas sejourner en dortoir. Au Chili il y a des chambres pas cheres chez l'habitant, le camping est agreable si vous voulez camper en dehors des vlles et villages dans la nature. La location de voiture revient tres cher.
Bonjour à tous,
Je viens de découvrir le site et a lu déjà pas mal de messages.... tres interessants.
Je sais que je vais répéter les questions deja existantes mais je pars en patagonie pendant les vacances scolaires de noel donc 12 jours sur place. Je sais que cela n'est pas assez mais bon... je recherche donc le circuit au top pour profiter d'un max de choses.
Est ce que la peninsule valdes vaut le cout, y a t il encore bcp d animaux? ou pourrais je en trouver autant dans le sud vers Ushuaia???? Merci de vos reponses...
P.S: Etes vous aller eux iles Malouines.... dois je y aller à la place de la peninsume????
Est ce que la peninsule valdes vaut le cout, y a t il encore bcp d animaux? ou pourrais je en trouver autant dans le sud vers Ushuaia???? Merci de vos reponses...
P.S: Etes vous aller eux iles Malouines.... dois je y aller à la place de la peninsume????
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If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine