bonjour
nous recherchons un pays pour notre voyage de noce, un peu de chaleur et pas trop de pluie pour debut novembre
donc je crois que l'egypte correspond
j'ai commence a parcourir le forum mais j'ai peu de temps pour me decider et budget moyen
alors nous aimerions allier les visites avec des jours de plongée/farniente
mais je ne sais pas par ou commencer
j'ai vu que pour la plongée hurgadha était bien
la j'ai pu trouver un vol debut novembre pour pas trop cher mais qui nous ferai arriver au caire a 2h20 le matin et pour le retour ca nous ferai partir pour 4h10 alors comment faire apres
nous ne voulons pas aller dans des hotels trop touristiques mais plutot des appartements pour etre plus tranquille
j'ai pu voir des sites de francais qui proposait d'organiser des sejours ou activites mais sont il fiable je n'ai pas envie de me faire avoir(hurghada'venture, envie d'egypte)
et combien coute la vie la bas, vu que notre bucget n'est pas a rallonge
bon en fait en relisant j'ai vu que hurghada etait plutot pour les touristes
et nous pouvons aussi sejourner en hotel mais pas un hotel bas de gamme
merci
bonjour MArine,
si votre objectif principal est celui d'aller passer une semaine au bord de la mer rouge pour vous cocooner tous les 2 ensemble ( voyage de noce oblige ) et plonger dans la mere rouge,
allez plutot voir une agence de voyage qui vous proposera un package avec un vol direct charter inclus , plutot que vous emmer...er la vie a passer par le caire pour économiser rien du tout au final, vu la prise de tete et les frais additionnel que cette escale nocturne va engendrer.
bien sur plus les packages sont chères, plus les hotels sont de luxe, plus les prix sont bas, moins il faut vous attendre a du grand service !!
la gamme va pour les hotels club depuis la marque rouge M...A à 450 euros la semaine en vol inclus ..à la marque au trident en super all inclusive à 1500 euros la meme semaine ...
entre les 2 , vous avez tous les généralistes qui vous proposeront des prix moyens dans des hotels plus ou moins all in ....a prestation plus ou moins haut de gamme.. et plus ou moins en extra sur certains hotels en prix d'appel (une bonne facon de faire baisser le prix brochure ) ...
pensez que les plongées sont toujorus en extra et nécessitent déja par elles meme un certain budget !
merci de votre réponse apres il est vrai que nous aimerions aussi visiter et je trouve que oui ca monte tres vite avec des TO si on veut quelque chose de plus prestigieux
je pense hélas qu'il vous faudra faire des choix et des concessions :
- il esst difficile de visiter des sites majeures e facon satisfaisante depuis Hurgada ( beaucoup de route pour des journées de visites très longues et peu interessantes au final)
- il est difficile de vouloir le vrai luxe sans en payer le prix !
De plus, sachant que la marge bénéficiaire des TO se font sur des prix négociés avec les hoteliers, au final les prix sur internet ne sont pas TANT interessants que cela , si vous tenez compte qu'ils associent souvent un vol direct charter a prix plus interessant qu'un vol régulier ...
internet est interessant surtout si vous voulez faire du "a la carte" 2 jours d'un coté, 2 jours de l'autre et d'un troisième ...et y racrochee des transports entre les sites ...
si c'est pour se poser sur une plage ou un hotel unique pour une semaine, pas mal de promo sur nobmreux TO en basse saison ( hors congés scolaires )
cherchez peut etre un package du coté de "MARSA ALLAM3
c'est une station balnéaire plus au sud de hurgada ( à trois heures de transfert si jamais le vol arrive tout de meme sur hurgada )
mais hotels moins nombreux et plus récents ( pas grand chose d'autre a faire que la mer , le soleil et les poissons ....et honey mooner ! lol )
par contre les fonds marins sont bien plus beaux car peu déteriorés par le tourisme de masse de hurgada et une population un peu moins "lourdingue russe alcoolo "
une probable option sympa pour un bon rapport qualité prix pour un hotel en bord de mer ... mais vous sereza au bout du monde = pas top poour les visites
bon plus j'y pense et plus je sens que mon cheri ca va moyennement lui plaire de faire une semaine farniente
n'y a t'il pas une ville ou l'on pourrait allier les deux sans faire 7h de route
moi ce que j'aimerai s'est d'avoir au moins deux jours de farniente plongée et plutot a la fin du sejour pour pouvoir se reposer
le soucis s'est que le vol le moins cher s'est au depart du caire
donc il faudrai faire des visites au depart du caire (en sachant qu'on arriverai a 2h du mat alors ou trouver un logement)
pendant 4/5jours puis 2/3 jours farniente en sachant que le dernier jour nous devrions etre au caire car depart le matin a 4h du mat
apres je ne connais pas tout les aeroports peut etre que je pourrai trouver quelque chose de pas trop cher ailleurs
dans ce cas, il vous faut :
- atterir au caire
- 3 ou 4 jours de visites du caire et monuments ( y'a de quoi faire !)
- 1 vol domestique (1h) vers SSH ou HRG
- 1 hotel all in bord de mer pour 2 / 3 nuits
- vol retour dernier vol du soir ( souvent des vols vers 22 ou 23 ou 24h) pour connection directer aéroport du caire ...
si en plus vous restez sur egyptair, ils s'occupent de garantir votre connection, et vous restez au caire dans le meme terminal 3 ...
autre option si vous n'etes pas fada des tres grandes villes ( tres poluée , sale et un peu timbrée que le caire !)
vol France / Caire / Louxor
- séjour 4 jours louxor (y a de quoi faire aussi pas mal de visite archéologiques mais ville plus petite de dimension et abbord plus humaine)
- tranfert par la route vers Hurgada ( 5H de route)
ou transfert par avion LXR SSH (1 vol par jour )
- prolongation séjour bord de mer à hurgada ou sharm
- vol départ idem première proposition avec package vol retour avec escale sur le caire
merci vous etes d'une aide precieuse nous aimons plus les villes de moins grandes importance ou l'on peut circuler plus facilement
donc la deuxieme option me plait davantage
donc je peux directement prendre un avion nantes/luxor
arriver le mardi matin y rester jusqu'au vendredi midi et partir vers hurghada pour profiter jusqu'au lundi matin de la semaine suivante et revnir sur louxor pour reprendre l'avion
merci vous etes d'une aide precieuse nous aimons plus les villes de moins grandes importance ou l'on peut circuler plus facilement
donc la deuxieme option me plait davantage
donc je peux directement prendre un avion nantes/luxor
arriver le mardi matin y rester jusqu'au vendredi midi et partir vers hurghada pour profiter jusqu'au lundi matin de la semaine suivante et revnir sur louxor pour reprendre l'avion
excellent parcours ... voyez meme si vous ne pouvez prendre un vol retour directement de hurgada !
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I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
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Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
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Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier.
Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel...
Day 3: Stop in Tetouan
Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains
Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!)
Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis
Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad)
After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF).
Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary:
From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure)
Arrival and departure: Essaouira
Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest
Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities
Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering?
Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac
Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel
Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac
Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep
Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac
Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac
Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest
Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay
Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac
Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight)
Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online
We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide?
👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.)
🍽️ Restaurants / meals
We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal.
👉 Any thoughts?
👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.)
For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal
Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊
🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood
We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street).
👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍
Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is...
My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music.
Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians?
We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley.
If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening
Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada
Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon
Day 6: Luxor
Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon
Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada
Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van.
Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help