Frontière terrestre entre le Maroc et l'Algérie
by Sarahhhh
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour !
je voudrais savoir s'il était possible d'entrer en algerie depuis le maroc par la frontière terrestre sachant que la frontière est censée etre fermé. Peut on rentrer en algerie avec un passeport francais sans visa? Merci d'avance.
NON c'est fermé depuis 1994
PAPY
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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OUI bien sur que c'est possible d'y passer, il y a plein de trous dans le grillage pour la contrebande du carburant, bien moins cher en Algérie !!
Mais pour y tamponner ton passeport NON !!
Avion entre les deux pays ! ou passer par l'Espagne en bateaux ou depuis Marseille aussi!!
PAPY
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
JE sais k c fermé depuis 94 mais j ai entendu qu'il etait possible de passer.
Si cé fermé comment feras tu pour passer? en clandestin oui
Si ta porte est fermé comment font les gens pour rentrer chez toi a ton avis? 😏
Si cé fermé comment feras tu pour passer? en clandestin oui
Si ta porte est fermé comment font les gens pour rentrer chez toi a ton avis? 😏
c'est toi le passeur des clandestins? 😛
as-tu bien lu les messages precedents? 😮
Si la frontiere est fermée il n y a qu'une seule facon de passer: clandestins.
je crois que tu as du mal a comprendre que la frontiere est fermée.
il n y a aucunes contradictions vue que la frontiere est fermée.
Si tu veux aller en algerie a partir du maroc il suffit de prendre l'avion.
je crois que tu as du mal a comprendre que la frontiere est fermée.
il n y a aucunes contradictions vue que la frontiere est fermée.
Si tu veux aller en algerie a partir du maroc il suffit de prendre l'avion.
G BIEN COMPRIS CE K TU VEUX DIRE JE C K LA FRONTIERE EST FERMé! Mais apparament tout le monde c k dans les faits le passage à la frontière se fait normallement. Ca m est egal d'y passer clandestinement du moment k je puisse visiter l'algerie. Donc g ma reponse normallement ca pourrait etre possible clandestinement c ca?
aah enfin, Oui tu peux passer seulement clandestinement.
Mais c'est a tes risques et peril 😏
a mon avis cé mieux de prendre l'avion que d'essayer de passer clandestinement. N'oublie surtout pas les risques (prison dans les meilleurs des cas ou bien je ne te souhaite pas une balle...)
c'est juste par simple curiosité mais pkoi ne veux-tu pas prendre l'avion?
Mais c'est a tes risques et peril 😏
a mon avis cé mieux de prendre l'avion que d'essayer de passer clandestinement. N'oublie surtout pas les risques (prison dans les meilleurs des cas ou bien je ne te souhaite pas une balle...)
c'est juste par simple curiosité mais pkoi ne veux-tu pas prendre l'avion?
Ollalalaaaaaaaaa
d'abord il y a des vols de la RAM de casa a alger.
Cela etant dit, tu veux aller en clandestin et revenir en clandestin. Tu es sure que cela vaut la chandelle? Tu vas passer 2 fois avec les militaires tu ne risques pas seule d'aller loin sauf en utilisant les passeurs qui ne sont pas gratuits 😏
Estce que ca vaut de se faire zigouiller ou de faire de la taule pour ci peu.
Oui pour aller en algerie il faut un visa si tu es de nationalité francaise.
d'abord il y a des vols de la RAM de casa a alger.
Cela etant dit, tu veux aller en clandestin et revenir en clandestin. Tu es sure que cela vaut la chandelle? Tu vas passer 2 fois avec les militaires tu ne risques pas seule d'aller loin sauf en utilisant les passeurs qui ne sont pas gratuits 😏
Estce que ca vaut de se faire zigouiller ou de faire de la taule pour ci peu.
Oui pour aller en algerie il faut un visa si tu es de nationalité francaise.
Je vois pas pourkoi tu dis "oh la la" excuse moi si je suis qu'etudiante et k je ne puisse pas me permettre de prendre l avion. Je trouve que dans ce forum certaines personnes sont trés désagréables et prennent les gens pour des illétrés c dommage d'avoir une telle attitude! A quoi ca sert je me le demande. Et question sécurité les gens qui m ont di qui etaient passé ne m ont pas parlé de risques.
tu sais quand tu passes une frontiere clandestinement il y a toujours un risque: se faire attraper puis prison, se faire tirer dessus....
et surtout si tu passes en algerie sans visa que vas tu faire si on te controle?
et surtout si tu passes en algerie sans visa que vas tu faire si on te controle?
bonjour; la frontiere est toujours fermee entre algerie et le maroc ; algerie applique le principe de la reciprocite il vous faut un visa pour entrer en algerie etant donne que algerien doit avoir un vvisa pour rentrer en france
la, il y a une incoherence..si tu presentes ton passeport a la police...je pense qu'il vont regarder s'il y a le visa à l'interieur!
pour passer par la route les experts t'ont répondu (c pas gagné...) mais on dirait qu'il y a aussi le petit probleme du visa ... le passeport français n'ouvre pas toutes les portes et celles là elles sont dures à enfoncer!!
pour le visa tu trouveras tout ce qu'il faut sur internet mais il te faudra aussi une invitation ou une resa d'hotel.
bon courage et prends l'avion.
par contre moi, j'aimerai bien savoir si il y a des gens du forum qui ont pu faire ça!que ça soit dans le sens maroc algérie ou algérie maroc.maintenant pour répondre a certain d'entre vous, en algérie, si vous vous faites pas trop remarquer, vous avez de trés faible chance de vous faire arreter pour un contrôle de routine surtout si vous voyagez en transport public.mais bon y a tjr un risque donc si tu a le visa vaut mieux prendre l'avion
Il y a bien des gens qui ont dû faire cela . Il y en a probablement parmis ceux là qui ne peuvent pas te répondre car ils sont en tôle.
J'en connais un qui l'a fait. C'était avec un 4*4 et il venait de la Mauritanie par le désert. Je précise qu'il avait ( a cette époque ) les visas . Il n'y avait pas de poste d frontiére par là ou il était passé. Il s'est fait prendre bétement un peu avant Figuiz à un controle . Il a du prendre un avocat et attendre le jugement. Cela lui a couté une belle amende et une grosse perte de temps.
Passer la frontiére à pied n'est pas un problème. Il y a une route qui longe plus ou moins la frontiére. Mais est-ce que cela vaut le coup de risquer la prison et une grosse amende pour passer quelques jours en Algérie ?
A toi de voir.
bonjour,
cette été j'était a beni saaf, j'ai volu rentré au maroc par la frontière, mes c'était imposible, il m'on dit que personne ne peut passé, mais j'ai essayé et voila je suis revenu sont voir le maroc.😠
AIME celui qui t'aime et soi heureux avec lui, tu es son amour, il est le soleil de tes jours, et la lune de tes nuits
Alors tu vas tenter le passage en clandestin?
Bonjour,
Vous pouvez effectivement entrer - de manière clandestine - en Algérie mais si vous vous faites contrôler, on le verra et vous risquez de passer bien plus que deux jours au trou. Ne prenez pas de risques inconsidérés. Salutations.
Vous pouvez effectivement entrer - de manière clandestine - en Algérie mais si vous vous faites contrôler, on le verra et vous risquez de passer bien plus que deux jours au trou. Ne prenez pas de risques inconsidérés. Salutations.
elle est libre apres tout elle peut la faire.
Et apres on verra si ca a marché comme ca on le saura si on peut le faire aussi 😏
Et apres on verra si ca a marché comme ca on le saura si on peut le faire aussi 😏
Bonjour,
Elle est effectivement libre mais ce choix - de franchir clandestinement cette frontière terrestre - peut finir par lui restreindre sa liberté de mouvement. Et si il lui arrive une mésaventure, les autorités algériennes ne pourront rien pour elle. Souvenez vous de l'épisode de ces autrichiens entrés clandestinement par le Grand Erg Oriental. Si elle ne s'est pas enregistrée à un poste de douane - quoiqu'il puisse lui arriver - l'Algérie n'a aucune obligation envers elle. Salutations.
Elle est effectivement libre mais ce choix - de franchir clandestinement cette frontière terrestre - peut finir par lui restreindre sa liberté de mouvement. Et si il lui arrive une mésaventure, les autorités algériennes ne pourront rien pour elle. Souvenez vous de l'épisode de ces autrichiens entrés clandestinement par le Grand Erg Oriental. Si elle ne s'est pas enregistrée à un poste de douane - quoiqu'il puisse lui arriver - l'Algérie n'a aucune obligation envers elle. Salutations.
ni le maroc d'ailleurs
😏
Bonjour,
Certainement aussi que le Maroc ne pourra rien pour elle. Salutations.
Certainement aussi que le Maroc ne pourra rien pour elle. Salutations.
Salut ous le monde
Oui effectivement il es possible de passer du Maroc en Algérie par les frontière mais le problème ce que tu va être un pure clandestin et si tu te fait ta une amende et tu ira en prison peut etre pour une longue durée et tu payera une lourde amende même je pense que ton véhécule sera saisie si j"était toi je risquerai pas renseigne toi s'il y a un bateau entre l'algérie et le maroc je pense que c le meilleur moyen.
Oui effectivement il es possible de passer du Maroc en Algérie par les frontière mais le problème ce que tu va être un pure clandestin et si tu te fait ta une amende et tu ira en prison peut etre pour une longue durée et tu payera une lourde amende même je pense que ton véhécule sera saisie si j"était toi je risquerai pas renseigne toi s'il y a un bateau entre l'algérie et le maroc je pense que c le meilleur moyen.
SAM
la frontiere est fermée coté algerien mais pas marocains ça n'empeche que tu ne peut passais du maroc vers l'algerie et inverse, ça se saurait vu qu'il y a des milliers d'algeriens et moi le premier qui attendons l'ouvrture de la frontiere, pour allez en vacances via l'espagbe et le maroc.surtout ne tente pas le diable en essayant clandestinnement l'etat d'urgence est toujours de rigueur en algerie.au pire tu te fait tirer dessus, au moins tu irra en prison pour passage clandestin et ce n'est pas la france avec canal plus, tu te retrouvera avec des terroristes, des droit communs en plus si t'est une fille, je ne fait pas de dessins.prend l'avion entre les deux pays ce sera mieux.et bon voyage quand mm
la frontiere est fermée coté algerien mais pas marocains ....
Ah bon cé nouveau ca???? ca existe ca? 😏
Ah bon cé nouveau ca???? ca existe ca? 😏
Comment ça tu as tenté de rentrer au Maroc ??!! C'est impossible vu que les frontières ont été bouclées depuis bien longtemps.. On ne peut passer et on ne peut essayer de passer..
Et puis tu dis "Les frontières sont fermées du côté Algérien pas Marocain", comment ça ??!!!! Si c'est fermé eh bien c'est des deux côtés non ?
Et puis tu dis "Les frontières sont fermées du côté Algérien pas Marocain", comment ça ??!!!! Si c'est fermé eh bien c'est des deux côtés non ?
bein oui je suis arriver jusqu'a ghazaouet, alors qu'on a désider d'éssayer, aller vers maghnia et peut etre.
mé impossible, déja on savait que les frontières sont fermées des deux cotés (des gendarmes, barbelés ...)
alors !!!!!!!!!!!!🏴☠️
salutation
AIME celui qui t'aime et soi heureux avec lui, tu es son amour, il est le soleil de tes jours, et la lune de tes nuits
😛 on passe la frontiere marocaine et puis on arrive dans un pays inconnu Et apres arrivée à la frontiere algerienne cé fermé 😛
Je montre mon passeport 😉😉😉 deja je te conseille de remplir des fiches individuelles cela te fera gagner du temps ( enfin cote marocain ) .
Ensuite tu peux essayer de passer mais tu ne fera meme pas dix metres, du coté de Figuig et Ich nous avons bien vu les posts de douane c est sympa mais il n y apas que les postes militaires sur la route, de temps en temps il faut aussi lever les yeux et tu verras que l on t observe de tres loin .
Nemmo 1001 le paxs sans nom c est peut etrel e noman, s land !!!!!!!😉😉😉😉😉
N allez pas chercher des emmerdes ou il n y a pas lieux d en avoir mais apres tout c est votre vie et non la mienne .
Thierry
Nemmo 1001 le paxs sans nom c est peut etrel e noman, s land !!!!!!!😉😉😉😉😉
N allez pas chercher des emmerdes ou il n y a pas lieux d en avoir mais apres tout c est votre vie et non la mienne .
Thierry
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je crois que tu te trompes de personnes mon cher. Lit les messages depuis le debut et tu comprendras qui veut traverser.
2 pays ennemis et où les frontieres sont surveillées meticuleusement jour et nuit. 😏
2 pays ennemis et où les frontieres sont surveillées meticuleusement jour et nuit. 😏
Excuse moi nemo1001 mais j ai repondu trop vite et j ai cliqué sur ton nom 1001 excuse j avais bien compris que tu es contre ce genre de demande a vouloir passer en clandestin .
Thierry
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Trés drôle nemo 😏.
Y avait un membre du nom de maila qui disait qu'elle avait réussi à passer la frontière Algéro-Marocaine, mais qu'avant il a fallu qu'elle se batte avec les douaniers !!!😏 J'ai l'impression que des fois (rarement) des personnes sur ce forum prennent leur désir pour des réalités, et du coup ils se permettent de raconter des bétises..
Y avait un membre du nom de maila qui disait qu'elle avait réussi à passer la frontière Algéro-Marocaine, mais qu'avant il a fallu qu'elle se batte avec les douaniers !!!😏 J'ai l'impression que des fois (rarement) des personnes sur ce forum prennent leur désir pour des réalités, et du coup ils se permettent de raconter des bétises..
Faux, même si tu ne veux pas te faire remarquer... le policier ou le douanier verra tout de suite que t'es pas du coin et il t'arrêtera. Je vais régulièrement en Algérie, je connais les moeurs, mais avec ma tronche je m'y fais contrôler ultra régulièrement.
En tout cas pour celui qui veut aller clandestinement en Algérie parce qu'il est étudiant et pas riche et gnagnagna... est totalement inconscient du risque encourru. Les policiers et douaniers sont loin d'être des enfants de coeur et ne sont absolument pas compréhensifs même si on leur dit qu'on est français, étudiant, pauvre et gnagnagna...
salut
tu qu'on algerie les etranger son signialer quand il sont seul et les service de securites vons surement tareter pour prendre de tes renseigniement et parmis les info qui von demander ca sera num de visa et validiter et puis la date d'entre donc il faut bien penser avans d'agir .
tu peut prendre le billet bateau il va te couter dans les 50euro je pense alicant- alg et puis le retour billet moin cher ca sera dans les 150 euro alort pour quoi tanter le diable .
PS: c juste mon avie sinon tes libre de fair ce qui te semble bon
tanguet
Certains frontaliers (algériens ou marocains) passent régulièrement la frontière "clandestinement". J'ai l'exemple de mon épicier (marocain) qui a une partie de sa famille du côté marocain (à quelques centaines de mètres de la frontière) et une partie de sa famille qui est du côté algérien (à quelques centaines de mètres de la frontière). Il m'a dit que lorsqu'il retourne au maroc il passe la frontière plusieurs fois par jour ! Selon ces dires, c'est tout à fait courant au niveau de son village. Les gens vont faire leurs courses d'un côté ou de l'autre de la frontière. Donc c'est possible. Mais, il le dit lui même : il fait ça clandestinement.
Mais, sais-tu ce que c'est que d'être cladestin à l'étranger ? Sais-tu ce que risquent des clandestins dans un pays ? Lis un peu le Figaro et le Monde et tu verras ce que la France (pays des droits de l'homme...) fait avec les clandestins... je te laisse imaginer ce que pourrait faire l'Algérie d'une pauvre étudiante clandestine !
L'avion entre les 2 pays coûte entre 230 et 300€ selon si tu pars de Casa ou de Marrakech et selon ta destination (Alger ou Oran). Air Algérie et la RAM font ces liaisons.
Tu as aussi la solution de faire la traversée en bateau (pas une barque de clandestins ! un bateau officiel), mais je ne connais pas le nom des compagnies maritimes. Mais d'autres pourront te le donner.
Où as-tu prévu de loger en Algérie ? Chez l'habitant ou dans un hotel ? Je me suis rendu compte que les hoteliers regardent les visas des étrangers (même si ça n'est pas leur rôle !). A plusieurs reprises des hoteliers m'ont fait des remarques du genre : c'est bientôt la fin des vacances... ah... vous avez fait prolongé votre visa, vous aimez bien l'Algérie ? c'est la preuve qu'ils regardent les visas et sa date de validité. (En France les hoteliers font la même chose !)
Franchement, tu prends un risque inconsidérable ! Tu es étudiante, tu n'as pas beaucoup de sous. J'ai connu ça quand j'étais jeune... mais quand on est étudiant il y a plein de petits boulots que l'on peut faire pour gagner quelques sous. Et en plein mois de septembre il est impossible que tu ne trouves pas un petit boulot si tu as envie d'en trouver un et de gagner quelques sous ! Et même si c'est un boulot de m... tu peux bien te forcer à bosser pendant une semaine ou 2 pour un boulot de m... qui te permettra de payer l'avion et d'éviter les ennuis !!!
Après tout ce qu'on t'a dit tu fais ce que tu veux...
Mais, sais-tu ce que c'est que d'être cladestin à l'étranger ? Sais-tu ce que risquent des clandestins dans un pays ? Lis un peu le Figaro et le Monde et tu verras ce que la France (pays des droits de l'homme...) fait avec les clandestins... je te laisse imaginer ce que pourrait faire l'Algérie d'une pauvre étudiante clandestine !
L'avion entre les 2 pays coûte entre 230 et 300€ selon si tu pars de Casa ou de Marrakech et selon ta destination (Alger ou Oran). Air Algérie et la RAM font ces liaisons.
Tu as aussi la solution de faire la traversée en bateau (pas une barque de clandestins ! un bateau officiel), mais je ne connais pas le nom des compagnies maritimes. Mais d'autres pourront te le donner.
Où as-tu prévu de loger en Algérie ? Chez l'habitant ou dans un hotel ? Je me suis rendu compte que les hoteliers regardent les visas des étrangers (même si ça n'est pas leur rôle !). A plusieurs reprises des hoteliers m'ont fait des remarques du genre : c'est bientôt la fin des vacances... ah... vous avez fait prolongé votre visa, vous aimez bien l'Algérie ? c'est la preuve qu'ils regardent les visas et sa date de validité. (En France les hoteliers font la même chose !)
Franchement, tu prends un risque inconsidérable ! Tu es étudiante, tu n'as pas beaucoup de sous. J'ai connu ça quand j'étais jeune... mais quand on est étudiant il y a plein de petits boulots que l'on peut faire pour gagner quelques sous. Et en plein mois de septembre il est impossible que tu ne trouves pas un petit boulot si tu as envie d'en trouver un et de gagner quelques sous ! Et même si c'est un boulot de m... tu peux bien te forcer à bosser pendant une semaine ou 2 pour un boulot de m... qui te permettra de payer l'avion et d'éviter les ennuis !!!
Après tout ce qu'on t'a dit tu fais ce que tu veux...
Merci pour l info t inkiete pas k je c ce k c les petits boulots g pa attendu que tu me l apprenne pour travailler. Je parlais de passer la frontiere car comme pour ton epicier une amie a une amie disait k elle passait regulierement pour aller voir sa famille en algerie sans aucun problème. Ce sont juste des renseignements k je veu prendre et certaine personne s enerve c grave quan meme! ( on en prend plein la gueule dans ce forum heureusement tout le monde n est pas comme ca) (je disais k c t cher l avion parce k je serai o maroc et k je voulais juste faire un petit coucou a ma famille en algerie). DONC C T JuSTE DES RENSEIGNEMENTS K JE PRENAIS C BON!
pkoi alors évoqué les frais de visa puisque tu es algerienne!!!
bon voyage
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- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!




