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Attention aux nouvelles éditions (2012...) de Lonely Planet: ils ont enlevé plein d'infos
by Willemspie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
j'avais trouvé une adresse dans le dernier LP sur le Botswana pour un resto
et bien une fois là-bas, le resto était fermé et n'existait plus depuis.... 6 ans !
oui on peut toujours aller dans le détail et dire qu'il manquait un hôtel par ci et un hôtel par là !
aucun guide ne peut être actualisé à la perfection, faut pas rêver.
car dans l’ensemble, si je déplore cette sale couleur bleue et des cartes moins lisibles dans les nouveaux LP, le reste est très utile en sachant que l'on trouve le plus souvent aussi d'autres choix d'hébergement rien qu'en visitant.
En anglais quels sont les meilleurs ?
J'aime bien celui-la parce que beaucoup d'infos autres que la route touristique.
http://www.roughguides.com/
J'aime bien celui-la parce que beaucoup d'infos autres que la route touristique.
http://www.roughguides.com/
S.D
Si j`ai bien comprit la dernière version précédente est celle de 2008. Je ne sais pas si vous pouvez me confirmer si c`est bien celui apparaissant sur l ìmage ci-bas. Car ne le voyant pas en librairie, je cherche sur le net, et je veux être sûr d`acheter le bon.
Est-ce bien la version 2008?

Est-ce bien la version 2008?

il n'y a pas tous les destionations 😮
?? Je ne saisis pas ton commentaire.
je veux dire que tous les destinations ne sont pas présent sur le site
Les jeunes n utilisent plus de guide donc ils cherchent a gagner un peu de fric avant de disparaitre
Il est évident que la qualité du LP a baissée!
Entièrement d'accord, et cela concerne toutes les destinations, pas seulement la Thaïlande, car cela découle d'une nouvelle orientation commerciale.
J'ai comparé les cartes d'un ancien LP avec le nouveau: les détails sont beaucoup moins lisibles dans le nouveau et les cartes sont plus réduites; la couleur bleue affreuse perd en contraste et en lisibilité; la qualité du papier est très ordinaire et les photos ne sont plus sur papier glacé.
J'approuve totalement. Avec en sus la disparition de cartes autrefois présentes pour certains lieux. En Inde, cela m'a obligé à trouver un café Internet pour accéder à une ancienne édition dont je disposais en pdf. Car le lieu que je venais visiter, Jhalrapatan (Rajasthan Sud-Est), n'était tout simplement plus du tout couvert par la nouvelle édition dont j'avais le guide papier.
Je cite une remarque prise sur amazon: Ce commentaire fait référence à cette édition : Thaïlande (Broché) La qualité d'impression est très mauvaise, beaucoup de pages sont tellement mal imprimées que les numéros de celles-ci n'apparaissent pas. La qualité du papier est médiocre et les contrastes entre les caractères d'imprimerie et le papier sont faibles.
Peut-être ce voyageur a t-il acheté une copie vietnamienne. J'en ai vu de nombreuses vendues à Vientiane à l'étage commercial de l'Arc de Triomphe Patuchai. Si je n'avais pas été informé de telles copies, j'aurai cru à ces tarifs attractifs. A première vue, cela semble une édition originale, couverture couleur cartonnée, insert pages photos couleurs.
Mais le papier laisse souvent apparaître le texte du verso. Surtout les cartes sont de qualité aléatoire, voire difficilement exploitables du fait de la transparence du verso et surtout de la transposition de la couleur bleu en grisé très (trop) clair.
J'ai alors compris que l'introduction de la couleur bleue n'avait pas pour objectif d'égayer la lecture, mais de se protéger des copies. Là, je comprends l'évolution, même si elle ne m'agrée pas.
Fabrice
P.S. : je me suis évidemment abstenu d'acheter le moindre guide en ce lieu.
Entièrement d'accord, et cela concerne toutes les destinations, pas seulement la Thaïlande, car cela découle d'une nouvelle orientation commerciale.
J'ai comparé les cartes d'un ancien LP avec le nouveau: les détails sont beaucoup moins lisibles dans le nouveau et les cartes sont plus réduites; la couleur bleue affreuse perd en contraste et en lisibilité; la qualité du papier est très ordinaire et les photos ne sont plus sur papier glacé.
J'approuve totalement. Avec en sus la disparition de cartes autrefois présentes pour certains lieux. En Inde, cela m'a obligé à trouver un café Internet pour accéder à une ancienne édition dont je disposais en pdf. Car le lieu que je venais visiter, Jhalrapatan (Rajasthan Sud-Est), n'était tout simplement plus du tout couvert par la nouvelle édition dont j'avais le guide papier.
Je cite une remarque prise sur amazon: Ce commentaire fait référence à cette édition : Thaïlande (Broché) La qualité d'impression est très mauvaise, beaucoup de pages sont tellement mal imprimées que les numéros de celles-ci n'apparaissent pas. La qualité du papier est médiocre et les contrastes entre les caractères d'imprimerie et le papier sont faibles.
Peut-être ce voyageur a t-il acheté une copie vietnamienne. J'en ai vu de nombreuses vendues à Vientiane à l'étage commercial de l'Arc de Triomphe Patuchai. Si je n'avais pas été informé de telles copies, j'aurai cru à ces tarifs attractifs. A première vue, cela semble une édition originale, couverture couleur cartonnée, insert pages photos couleurs.
Mais le papier laisse souvent apparaître le texte du verso. Surtout les cartes sont de qualité aléatoire, voire difficilement exploitables du fait de la transparence du verso et surtout de la transposition de la couleur bleu en grisé très (trop) clair.
J'ai alors compris que l'introduction de la couleur bleue n'avait pas pour objectif d'égayer la lecture, mais de se protéger des copies. Là, je comprends l'évolution, même si elle ne m'agrée pas.
Fabrice
P.S. : je me suis évidemment abstenu d'acheter le moindre guide en ce lieu.
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
J`suis bien contente, ma nièce et son amie qui sont allé en Thaïlande vont me prêter l`ancienne version qu`elles ont en leur possession!
La photo que tu as mise est le LP de 2010, donc nouvelle version.
La version 2008 est celle-ci:
Maintenant les Rough Guide sont devenus la nouvelle référence même si l'aspect est moins engageant mais une vendeuse me disait que dans les Rough Guides des articles sont rédigés par des locaux ce qui serait un plus par rapport aux LP.
Les LP anciennes versions vont voir leur cote en occasion grimper... Amateur de Malaisie, les derniers LP dans l'ancienne version sont toujours en vente mais seront remplacés en septembre.. à bon entendeur..
La version 2008 est celle-ci:
Maintenant les Rough Guide sont devenus la nouvelle référence même si l'aspect est moins engageant mais une vendeuse me disait que dans les Rough Guides des articles sont rédigés par des locaux ce qui serait un plus par rapport aux LP.
Les LP anciennes versions vont voir leur cote en occasion grimper... Amateur de Malaisie, les derniers LP dans l'ancienne version sont toujours en vente mais seront remplacés en septembre.. à bon entendeur..
Salut Tokara
je suis en train de faire mon guide VF perso sur la Birmanie en juillet prochain depuis environs 6 mois . Je dis perso car, suivant sa façon de voyager, les infos glanées sont ciblées et je copie , colle règulièrement et j'ai maintenant un petit bouquin de 50 pages qui me servira sûremnt durant le voyage. Mais bien sur ça prend beaucoup de temps mais ça fait aussi voyager avant le départ!!! l'échange est dans les 2 sens puisque je renvoie également des bons plans mais bien sûr suivant mon vécu!!
je prends le LP et le routard mais mon guide VF est précieux!!!
Guy
La photo que tu as mise est le LP de 2010, donc nouvelle version
C'est bien celle de 2010, mais ce n'est pas la dernière. La dernière version, dont il est question ici, c'est celle de 2012 :

C'est bien celle de 2010, mais ce n'est pas la dernière. La dernière version, dont il est question ici, c'est celle de 2012 :

mais mon guide VF est précieux!!!
Bonjour Guy ,
Bien sur et ce presque en temps réel sur certaines infos ce que un guide de papier ne pourra jamais faire , logique aller des infos puis imprimer l'année suivante et encore parfois 2 . Merci VF et aux intervenants de VF .
Bonjour Guy ,
Bien sur et ce presque en temps réel sur certaines infos ce que un guide de papier ne pourra jamais faire , logique aller des infos puis imprimer l'année suivante et encore parfois 2 . Merci VF et aux intervenants de VF .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Pour le Guide du Routard ca n'est pas récent, ca date depuis son rachat par les éditions Hachette dans les années 80. Depuis les mises a jours sont devenues aléatoires ou peu sérieuses quand ce n'était pas mensonger, surtout pour l'Asie ou j'ai vu les pires cas de figures (hotels, GH ou restos n'existant plus depuis une 10 aine d'années, adresses pourries ne correspondant pas aux descriptifs, prix des transports hors du temps et de la réalité quand ce n'était pas l'arrivée dans un aéroport tout neuf non mentionné dans la dernière édition sortie 2-3 mois après l'ouverture du dit aéroport) 🤪
+ 1 C'est exactement ce que nous avions constaté en Indonésie. Un exemple entre mille, un hébergement mentionné dans la dernière édition et fermé depuis 6 ans à la parution du guide. Dans le LP c'est l'exception, dans le GR Indonésie c'est plus ou moins la règle. Un décalage systématique et souvent grotesque entre les infos lues et la réalité constatée. Ce n'est pas le cas pour les destinations "à Français", sur lesquelles il font leur fric : Corse, Maroc.... Les GDR sur l'Asie n'ont pour eux que l'effet comique involontaire. Pourquoi se vendent ils alors ? Leur STYLE, franchouillard et pseudo -post-"baba"-"coolos" ("c'est le bon plan", "bien cool", "se la couler douce", "casser la graine", etc etc) doit y être pour beaucoup.
+ 1 C'est exactement ce que nous avions constaté en Indonésie. Un exemple entre mille, un hébergement mentionné dans la dernière édition et fermé depuis 6 ans à la parution du guide. Dans le LP c'est l'exception, dans le GR Indonésie c'est plus ou moins la règle. Un décalage systématique et souvent grotesque entre les infos lues et la réalité constatée. Ce n'est pas le cas pour les destinations "à Français", sur lesquelles il font leur fric : Corse, Maroc.... Les GDR sur l'Asie n'ont pour eux que l'effet comique involontaire. Pourquoi se vendent ils alors ? Leur STYLE, franchouillard et pseudo -post-"baba"-"coolos" ("c'est le bon plan", "bien cool", "se la couler douce", "casser la graine", etc etc) doit y être pour beaucoup.
Merci pour ta réponse! Ma nièce qui me va me prêter le sien, je vais voir quelle version. Mais j`ai bien l`impression que ce sera le 2010(nouvelle version😕)
le 2010(nouvelle version)
Ancienne version tu veux dire. La nouvelle version c'est 2012, voir l'image au dessus de ton message 😕
Ancienne version tu veux dire. La nouvelle version c'est 2012, voir l'image au dessus de ton message 😕
La version 2008 est celle-ci:
Version 2010 Lonely Planet Thaïlande

Et enfin la version 2012

En résumé, si je comprend bien depuis 2012, les versions éditées sont moins bonnes. Donc il est préférable d`acheter les versions antérieurs que ce soit 2010 ou 2008!
C`est bien ça!!?
Ce qui m`a confondu c`est que chez le libraire, on m`a dit que Lonely Planet n`édite qu`aux 4 ans, donc je croyais que le livre 2010 était la même version que 2008 remit en imprimerie.🤪
Version 2010 Lonely Planet Thaïlande

Et enfin la version 2012

En résumé, si je comprend bien depuis 2012, les versions éditées sont moins bonnes. Donc il est préférable d`acheter les versions antérieurs que ce soit 2010 ou 2008!
C`est bien ça!!?
Ce qui m`a confondu c`est que chez le libraire, on m`a dit que Lonely Planet n`édite qu`aux 4 ans, donc je croyais que le livre 2010 était la même version que 2008 remit en imprimerie.🤪
Le LP Thaïlande a une nouvelle édition tous les deux ans et non 4 ans.
La version 2010 est une nouvelle édition (la bande en bas de la couverture est un signe de la nouvelle édition).
La version 2008 reste la dernière dans l'ancienne présentation.
Sinon préférez les Rough Guides.
La version 2010 est une nouvelle édition (la bande en bas de la couverture est un signe de la nouvelle édition).
La version 2008 reste la dernière dans l'ancienne présentation.
Sinon préférez les Rough Guides.
Malheureusement pas que dans les guides, également sur le forum qu a pris l'allure d'une grande vitrine publicitaire sans possibilité de retrouver quoi que ce soit, si ce n'est les discussions en cours. Le reste ? disparu ainsi que les "anciens" qui en savaient un bout sur les voyages et les bons plans... Tout à une fin et c'est désolant.
Depuis que la BBC a vendu le LP à une société américaine pour la moitié du prix qu'elle l'avait achetée, rien de va plus au sein de cette édition. 🤪
Depuis que la BBC a vendu le LP à une société américaine pour la moitié du prix qu'elle l'avait achetée, rien de va plus au sein de cette édition. 🤪
Bientôt la course aux LP "vintage", hyper-côté et bien monnayé ...
"Tout fout le camp" les LP étaient trop bien, çà pouvait pas durer...
çà devient lourd et pénible de naviguer sur VF... tellement de pub, ma connexion wifi s'affole à chaque fois...
et on s'y retrouve difficilement...
"Tout fout le camp" les LP étaient trop bien, çà pouvait pas durer...
çà devient lourd et pénible de naviguer sur VF... tellement de pub, ma connexion wifi s'affole à chaque fois...
et on s'y retrouve difficilement...
En comparaison avec LP, VF est bien moins lourd, crois-moi !
Les forums étant gratuits, il a bien fallu trouver le moyen de les financer à la longue, mais lorsque c'est trop, c'est trop 🤪 et c'est le cas du LP qui voit sa cote tomber vertigineusement, en tout cas à voir le nombre de connectés à l'heure, on se demande comment il peut encore être une référence en la matière. Dommage, très dommage.
Bizarre... nous avons un LP ( récent, mais pas trop ) mais aucune de ces couvertures ne me dit quoi que ce soit... 🤪
Récent comment ???? quelle date (en français ou en anglais) ?
De mémoire, euh... disons 3, 4 ans... et c'est en français.
De mémoire, euh... disons 3, 4 ans... et c'est en français.
Tu ne l'as pas sous la main ??? la date se trouve en dernière page, avant la couverture 😉
Bah non... au bureau, avec un guide sous le coude, ça ferait pas très sérieux !!! 😄 😄
Bah non... au bureau, avec un guide sous le coude, ça ferait pas très sérieux !!! 😄 😄
Pourquoi pas ? tu pianotes bien sur ton PC et en plus sur un site de voyage 😉 😉 😉
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After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story. Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider. But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube. Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long. Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter. (I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
*Jean d’Ormesson
2)

After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story. Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider. But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube. Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long. Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter. (I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
*Jean d’Ormesson
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Without limiting ourselves to the countries mentioned above—Turkey and others could be added to the list.
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Hi everyone,
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
Hello François, and the new team!
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Hi there,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
Hi,
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Just got back from Egypt a few days ago and couldn't exchange my 1900 Egyptian pounds at the airport. If anyone's interested, let me know!
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi there, I use video and photo editing software for my "work".
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi,
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Hello,
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48
Hi,
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal? It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland). It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks... There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal. That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is. The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai... They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive. Anyway... I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood... The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded. The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call! So, if you’re camping there, be careful... Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal? It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland). It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks... There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal. That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is. The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai... They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive. Anyway... I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood... The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded. The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call! So, if you’re camping there, be careful... Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.