Matériel solide et fiable pour grand raid
by Axiom
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous, je souhaite equiper mon cadre Orange acier cr-mo 4130 avec du matos solide en terme de transmition. plateu, bielles et derailleurs , .actuelement monte avec un Sram X9 , cassette sram 12x34 , chaine meme chose, fourche Infinity acier et moyeu Chrisking 20mm axe . peut-etre monter un 8 speed serait il plus fiable ??, les freins sont des Avid BB7 mtn neufs , je sais mecaniques mais pas de pb de fuite de liquide.
Merci pour vos conseils pour du matos bombproof.😉
Alors aucun bons conseils sur du matos fiable?? pneumatiques et transmition???
Salut,
Quel est ton projet et pourquoi veux tu remplacer ton équipement actuel, il est mort ou tu l'estime peu fiable ?
D'une manière générale, plus tu monte en gamme, plus c'est solide et plus c'est fiable.
Quel est ton projet et pourquoi veux tu remplacer ton équipement actuel, il est mort ou tu l'estime peu fiable ?
D'une manière générale, plus tu monte en gamme, plus c'est solide et plus c'est fiable.
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Salut , mon projet est : je reside dans l extreme sud de Espagne , traversee du pays jusque Pyrenees, puis les departements 65,64 32 40 47 46 12 15 43 63 42 71 et final 69 lyon.
mon bike est acier 4130 , jantes atomlab trailpimp et moyeux King , à ce niveau pas de souci . freins BB7, rear mech Sram x9, c est là que je doute , je veux rester en 9v et monter un double comme 36 / 24 en plateaux , que me conseilles tu? , pneus shwalbe , quel modele?
merci
C'est un projet sur route ou VTC/VTT ????
Sinon, côté transmission, le "manque de fiabilité est apparu avec les 10 vitesses (résistance et espérance de vie de la chaîne) - sur du 9V, ça parait suffisamment résistant et sur Espagne + France, on trouve facilement le matériel ad'hoc ...
Côté pneus, sur route je suis sur SCHWALBE "Kojak" en 1,35 ou 2" (c'est ce que j'ai trouvé de plus léger, en slick, pour un vélo chargé ... en plus, un "tringle souple" de rechange dans les bagages ...) - Si VTT/VTC, ça ne manque pas (toujours un pneu de rechange sur grand raid, ou, au minimum, emplâtre, un "bout" de chambre à air, et ruban de toile adhésive (type pharma "elastoplast" ...) pour réparer la structure d'un pneu endommagé...
Bonne préparation
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Le sram X9 devrait faire l'affaire. C'est l'équivalent d'un SLX, certains font le tour du monde avec moins que ça.
Le double si tu as les jambes pas de soucis, par contre je mettrais un 28x40. En 28x34 je serais passé partout et en 40x11 il y a déjà de quoi rouler, surtout que tu ne devrais pas être super chargé. J'avais un triple avec un 44 donc pour le grand, et je ne me verrais pas tomber de 8 dents, c'est qu'on a du mal à être véloce après quelques jours. Mais il faudrait essayer.
Les pneus je pense au Racer, mais les Kodak sont peut être bien.
Le double si tu as les jambes pas de soucis, par contre je mettrais un 28x40. En 28x34 je serais passé partout et en 40x11 il y a déjà de quoi rouler, surtout que tu ne devrais pas être super chargé. J'avais un triple avec un 44 donc pour le grand, et je ne me verrais pas tomber de 8 dents, c'est qu'on a du mal à être véloce après quelques jours. Mais il faudrait essayer.
Les pneus je pense au Racer, mais les Kodak sont peut être bien.
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Et que pensez-vous des pedaliers triple Suntour ? vu chez un velociste , pas cher du tout un triple 22-32-44 bielles de 170 pour axe carre ( c est ce que je veux , pas de hollo chose de chez shimano , tres mauvaise reputation les axes hollowtech.) donc prix 32 € un peu lourd certes mais parait super costaud.
vos impressions , ce velo ainsi montes avec moeux King ou sun ringle , jantes Atomlab trailpimp et rayons alpine III de dt, BB7 pour les freins. fera la route Bogota _Perito moreno en 2015 donc du solide me faut.il.
merci
Je ne connais pas Suntour, mais j'ai fait 30 000 Km avec un Hollowtech en voyage (je l'ai changé une fois après 20 000 bornes par sécurité). Que ce soit en route ou vtt, j'ai des cuvettes extérieurs partout. Toutes les marques s'y sont mises et depuis le temps que ça existe si leur mauvaise réputation était avérée voilà longtemps que ça aurait changé.
Ça reste de la mécanique, rien n'est indestructible et bien sûr ce sont toujours les mécontent qui se manifestent, mais il faut relativiser, surtout que la raison de leur mécontentement est probablement la manière dont ils ont monté le pédalier. Si tu écrase les roulement comme une brute forcément ça va s'user prématurément, idem si tu laisse du jeu.
Ça reste de la mécanique, rien n'est indestructible et bien sûr ce sont toujours les mécontent qui se manifestent, mais il faut relativiser, surtout que la raison de leur mécontentement est probablement la manière dont ils ont monté le pédalier. Si tu écrase les roulement comme une brute forcément ça va s'user prématurément, idem si tu laisse du jeu.
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Salut Bertrand merci pour les reponses , J ai pas mal de stock en boitier carre iso et JIs c est pour cela que je cherche un pedalier enmanchement carre.
Que penses tu du shimano M442 parait-il un alivio de qualite sup. a partir du deore et slx et compa. c est du hollowtech , donc.
j ai eu en mains des pedaliers shimano acera et alivio , c est du costaud , plateaux acier, comme le plus important est le boitier et ses roulements je ne risque pas grand chose avec un m442 , tu en penses quoi?
merci
ChristianJ'en pense que tant que tu ne prend pas un pédalier de supermarché avec manivelles en plastiques tu ne risque pas grand chose :)
Après le changement de vitesses risque d'être un peu moins bon sur des plateaux en tôle que des plateaux en alu usinés mais ce n'est pas des plus important en voyage.
Après le changement de vitesses risque d'être un peu moins bon sur des plateaux en tôle que des plateaux en alu usinés mais ce n'est pas des plus important en voyage.
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Je mettrai bien plus haut de gamme , mais je ne veux pas de roulements exterieurs , donc à ce jour j ai pas trop le choix , si tu pense à un autre modele , axe carre , bienvenu.
MATERIEL SOLIDE ET FIABLE ? Ha ! Ha! Ha!
On ne sait jamais quand c'est solide et fiable. Et quand un produit l'est, c'est qu'il a été mal conçu DONC on ne le trouve plus dans les magasins. Donc il faut toujours partir avec du matériel de rechange...
On ne sait jamais quand c'est solide et fiable. Et quand un produit l'est, c'est qu'il a été mal conçu DONC on ne le trouve plus dans les magasins. Donc il faut toujours partir avec du matériel de rechange...
yop
mes conseils :
groupes 8 vitesses : oui! plus standard dans la grande majorité des pays, plus durable et moins cher. de l'alivio fain le boulot aussi bien
freins : mets des V brakes ;)
Salut .
quel pedalier en 8 V ? shimano alivio aussi le fait en 7 /8 il me semble. le 9 je peux le toucher `pour pas cher .
merci
le "seuil de fiabilité" me semble être à 10 vitesses (chaînes fragiles pour les 10 et 11...) - Donc, 9, pourquoi pas (c'est ce que j'ai, et, jusque là, ça tient bien )
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
salut Chris
Autant pour moi, je n'avais vu que ton premier message et je n'avais donc pas vu ton itineraire. Pour voyager en France et en Espagne, zéro soucis, ne dépense pas d'argent inutilement. Sauf si la transmission que tu as est trop usée, tout ce que tu as conviendra très bien, et tu trouveras toujours des pièces de rechanges en cas de problème.
Salut Loic et Michel , oui pour ce projet de voyage ce sera Granada _ Lyon , centre España et les departements Français cites plus haut. pour les freins je garde mes BB7 , les jantes sont pour disque donc pas envie de changer pour des jantes avec piste de freinage , ce qui implique aussi moyeux etc etc...
J ai un drailleur arriere Sram x9 pour cassete 9v il me manque le pedalier , je pense triple 22-32-44 . Maintenant monter un 7/8 v comme dit Loic ou rester avec un Alivio FC M442 en 9 , ( aussi solode qu´un 7/8 v ?? shifter et derailleur en 9 passent bien avec un 8 speed ? question-.
merci encore.
Salut . voici les choix auxquels je suis confronte pour mon voyage sud España Granada- lyon environ 3000 kms par routes secondaires , pas de pistes juste asphalte.
1) mon vtt acier en 26, fourche acier rigide donc, axe de 20mm, freins disques BB7 cadre et fourche non pourvus de fixations porte bagage et sacoches , pas grave ya la solution remorque mono roue fixee tige de selle.triple plateaux, bielles deore lx axe carre et cassete 9 v 12-34.
2) Seven axion titane neuf montage pas termine, roues 28, la fourche peu etre remplacee pas une rigide , roues : jantes Ambrosio Nemesis , boyaux de 25 , moyeux campa record ( ces roues ont fait Paris Roubaix durant des annees dans les equipes pro ) je peux monter un compact 34/50 ou un triple , à voir , non plus pas de oeillets de fixation mais encore une fois solution remorque .
tige selle Thomson , selle Brooks , casste de 10 .ok mais seulement route.
merci
Salut,
Le VTT n'a pas l'air de correspondre à la description, il est en alu.
Pour 3000 bornes sur route, en été, donc peu chargé et avec remorque, je partirais avec le Seven. La position à l'air assez sportive mais tu y es sans doute habitué. A confirmer selon le nombre de km que tu as prévu de faire par jour et le nombre d'heures que tu es capable de tenir confortablement dans cette position.
Le VTT n'a pas l'air de correspondre à la description, il est en alu.
Pour 3000 bornes sur route, en été, donc peu chargé et avec remorque, je partirais avec le Seven. La position à l'air assez sportive mais tu y es sans doute habitué. A confirmer selon le nombre de km que tu as prévu de faire par jour et le nombre d'heures que tu es capable de tenir confortablement dans cette position.
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Salut , j ai fait erreur en decharger la fopto orange couleur egalement voici le cadre sans fourche mais monte avec une acier rigide , le cadre est cr-mo 4130.
Ça fait vélo de freeride presque à nu ;)
Je resterais sur le Seven je pense.
Je resterais sur le Seven je pense.
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Free ride pas exactement mais park oui ça peut le faire .
centre gravite bas , pas trop lourd hyper solide , confortable , pneumatiques Hutchinson acrobat , (pour le moment ) , j ai un triple plateau qui arrive cette semaine.
La premiere foto le velo vert , ça c est un bike de free , j ai fait la Mountain of hell aux Alpes avec.
le triple ce sera un Deore LX axe carre , , oui y en a encore.
A +
ton velo c est quoi?
merci
Tu touche à tous les domaines ;)
J'ai un Surly Long Haul Trucker en XT 9v avec lequel j'ai voyagé, un Caad 10 en ultegra sur route et un Taurine en SLX en VTT. Je suis plus routard à la base, je n'ai jamais fait de VTT sérieusement, mais venant du motocross et ayant passé quelques temps dans les skate park plus jeune, la descente ou l'enduro m'ont toujours attiré. Malheureusement le nord-est ne s'y prête pas beaucoup.
A+
J'ai un Surly Long Haul Trucker en XT 9v avec lequel j'ai voyagé, un Caad 10 en ultegra sur route et un Taurine en SLX en VTT. Je suis plus routard à la base, je n'ai jamais fait de VTT sérieusement, mais venant du motocross et ayant passé quelques temps dans les skate park plus jeune, la descente ou l'enduro m'ont toujours attiré. Malheureusement le nord-est ne s'y prête pas beaucoup.
A+
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Park velo.
Tommasini fire route campa 10
Pinarello opera route 10 campa
Seven axiom titane pas encore monte
Brooklynmachineworks racelink ( bete de descente )
Turner 6 pack free
Orange hitman
Caad 7 saeco campa 10
je m´arrete là , je ne garderai pas tout mais bon quand on aime.........
attention a la qualité des roulements de pédalier
si tu peux mettre du XT c'est bien ce sont surtout les roulements qu'il faut soigner ! http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/dep-fiche.php?N=83
si tu peux mettre du XT c'est bien ce sont surtout les roulements qu'il faut soigner ! http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/dep-fiche.php?N=83
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Salut pas de troubles , je monte un axe carre skf ou Phil wood. Pour la selle , ce sera une B17 , que savez-vous à propos des differents modeles, de B17 ?
merci
sur mes velos jai une brooks B17 , après 40.000 km elle est toujours en place
mais attention elles ont tendance a s'affaisser et a se déchirer au niveau des rivets
mais bon elle est toujours vivante
claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Si il y a plus solide que B17 ? swift ou autre modele ?
merci
pour les selles plus solides je ne sais pas
je mettrai les fotos de mes selles des que jai 5 mn
cb
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
voici un texte que claudio a honteusement piqué a un ami cyclo naute
que celui ci me pardonne
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/selle.php
Petite étude relative à la selle de vélo Voici le petit grain de selle de Lescudé
Après avoir beaucoup entendu sur le sujet, la seule chose dont je sois sûr est que le problème de selle à vélo est un problème personnel ! En effet, il n’existe aucune vérité sur le sujet, à preuve les quelques témoignages parvenus sur ce forum donnent tous des solutions différentes. Dans un article dans Cyclotourisme j’avais écrit “à chacun ses fesses, à chacun sa selle !”..
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/selle.php
Petite étude relative à la selle de vélo Voici le petit grain de selle de Lescudé
Après avoir beaucoup entendu sur le sujet, la seule chose dont je sois sûr est que le problème de selle à vélo est un problème personnel ! En effet, il n’existe aucune vérité sur le sujet, à preuve les quelques témoignages parvenus sur ce forum donnent tous des solutions différentes. Dans un article dans Cyclotourisme j’avais écrit “à chacun ses fesses, à chacun sa selle !”..
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
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One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance
hi,
I'm planning a recumbent bike trip from the Pyrenees to Greece. On the EuroVelo 8 route, it doesn't specify the path through the Alps.
Are there any experienced cyclists here who can tell me where they go to avoid climbing too high?
Also, is there another traveler/bike forum better suited for broadening the responses?
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