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Kate · 2026-03-03 · Message 201 of 361

He stares in disbelief at the ridiculous amount I hand him. Kate and Nathalie giggle, but Bruno, ever the gentleman, covers my blunder by giving him a more substantial sum. The price of danger.

Nath and I still don’t get why this maniac behind the wheel earned your gratitude Just so you know, if you’re traveling with Richard and Bruno, budget for tips!

On that note, it seems tourists’ tips are becoming increasingly rare...

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Djalma · 2026-03-03 · Message 202 of 361

Do you tip taxi drivers in France? If tipping is an institution in some countries, I don’t recall it being common in Thailand. Personally, I tip when it’s customary in the country and when I’m happy with the service.

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Kate · 2026-03-03 · Message 203 of 361

Do you tip taxi drivers in France?

No. So what? 😛

Personally, I tip when it’s customary in the country

So you tip in France? Because it *is* customary.

We probably kept our old habits from our two previous trips to India... But as the trip went on, the tips got smaller, even disappeared

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Solene40 · 2026-03-03 · Message 204 of 361

Aaaaah tipping, such a big debate. Back home, I think we’re a bit like your folks—we practice "smile tipping": even if the service is crap (or the driving catastrophic in this case 😵), if the person is nice and we’ve had a good time with them, we tip. And because of that, we end up tipping often since most of the time, they respond well to our joking side (yes, even the only Parisian taxi driver we’ve ever taken in our lives 😂). In 30 years of traveling, we’ve only brought a friend along once, in India, and the whole tipping question really showed us a side of their personality we hadn’t noticed at all. Well, we ended up ditching the shared fund by the third day… and we’ve never traveled with anyone else since 😆

Anyway, can’t wait for sunrise to discover your new paradise 🌴

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Kate · 2026-03-03 · Message 205 of 361

Beach, pool, pool, beach...

Richard’s chilling on the beach, so I’m taking over ;)

With just a few days left before departure, we had to reorganize the trip, and I set out to find our hidden paradise. Thanks to some forum members and a lot of perseverance, I discovered a little spot that perfectly matched all our expectations for the end of our trip.

Villas scattered throughout a tropical garden that smells like frangipani flowers. A clean, huge, deserted beach. Absolute peace and quiet. A few rare Thai tourists enjoying their last tea at the end of the weekend. Hey! I’ve got the pool all to myself! Weird... In high season, just 2-3 hours from Bangkok, we’re in a nearly empty hotel. Could it be the isolated location that doesn’t attract crowds looking for parties, bars, pubs, restaurants, or nightclubs? Here, no activities are offered. No snorkeling or other water fun to fill the days. Perfect—we don’t want to do anything! 😛









But the four of us can’t sit still for long and decide to explore the area on foot. A few discreet hotels line the beach, and at the end of a small road, we reach the village of Haad Chao Samran. A pleasant, calm, family-friendly vibe—some are picnicking on the beach, others swimming in bright yellow floatation vests. It’s market day, which works out great for Bruno, who’s been looking for swim trunks for days. Long story short, a floral-print boardshort will do the trick (unwearable in France 😏).







After a very pleasant morning, we head back to the hotel for lunch, not without spotting a little street restaurant we love just a few steps away for the evening. The essentials are covered: we can eat easily—there are 4 or 5 food stalls in the village and two 7/11s for beers and the now-essential apéro peanuts.





The rest here

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Kate · 2026-03-03 · Message 206 of 361

Well, we ended up stopping the shared kitty after the 3rd day... and we never shared expenses with anyone again 😅

We also had a shared kitty. But before leaving, we made it clear what counted as personal expenses—including some tips (and the guys’ beers 😄).

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Jojoone1 · 2026-03-04 · Message 207 of 361

Tipping isn’t traditional at all in Thailand, nor in most of Southeast Asia. Demanding a tip can be seen as one of the unpleasant consequences of mass tourism. What’s certain is that someone who demands a tip doesn’t respect themselves or the customer. More often than not, there are drug and/or gambling issues—or even credit abuse—behind it.

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Solene40 · 2026-03-04 · Message 208 of 361

It's all about guilt, Joel. When I eat divinely in a restaurant for 2 € or an Indian mechanic spends an hour elbow-deep in our scooter's grease for the same price, I honestly feel ashamed. So I double the tip... without ever shaking off that feeling of guilt, since it's such a ridiculous amount for us! Have a great day, everyone! 😅

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Muriel18 · 2026-03-04 · Message 209 of 361

I mostly agree with you, Christelle, except that...

So I double the tip amount...

... In some countries (I’m thinking of Namibia, but there are probably others), you can’t find teachers or doctors anymore because it’s way more lucrative to work in tourism—not because of the salaries, but because of the tips 🤪.

On the other hand, what really annoys me in countries where haggling isn’t a tradition is people trying to nickel-and-dime a few euros (sometimes just a few—or even tens of—cents), even though that amount is significant compared to local wages 😡.

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Solene40 · 2026-03-04 · Message 210 of 361

".. In some countries (I'm thinking of Namibia but there are surely others), you can't find teachers or doctors anymore because it's much more lucrative to work in tourism—not because of salaries, but because of tips .

Totally agree with you, Muriel. That's why we give 4 € and not 20 € (because the mechanics totally deserve the 20 € for getting us out of a jam like that 😅)

On the other hand, what really annoys me in countries where haggling isn't a tradition is people trying to nickel-and-dime a few euros (sometimes just a few cents—or even tens of cents) when that amount is significant compared to local salaries

So true! And I love it when people cry "scam" over 1 € too 😂

But we're getting off topic—we're gonna get scolded LOL

I'm waiting for tonight to enjoy Kate's latest paradise post

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Djalma · 2026-03-04 · Message 211 of 361

Asking for a tip can be seen as one of the unpleasant consequences of mass tourism

That’s unfortunately true :(

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Kate · 2026-03-04 · Message 212 of 361

But we're getting off topic, we're gonna get told off LOL

No, not at all—I just copied a trick I saw. I added a link at the end of the posts about the travel journal, linking to the next one ;P ;) It’s mostly for family and friends who find the reading a bit choppy. My mom asked me: "Who’s that guy?" "Do you know him?"

I think we’ll post on MyAtlas—it’ll be easier for beginners. Otherwise, at the end of the journal, we can debate without guilt. I’ve got a few topics in mind!

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Montagnard74 · 2026-03-04 · Message 213 of 361

I’m waiting tonight to enjoy Kate’s latest heavenly post

And why would it be the last one?

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Montagnard74 · 2026-03-04 · Message 214 of 361

It’s mostly for families and friends who find the reading not very smooth. My mom asked me: « But who’s that guy? », « Do you know him? »

My respects to your mother, ma’am—I’m Bruno. Another one, not the one from the Gang of Four.

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Montagnard74 · 2026-03-04 · Message 215 of 361

On the other hand, what really annoys me in countries where haggling isn’t a tradition is people trying to scrape off a few euros (sometimes just a few cents or even tens of cents), even though that amount is significant compared to local wages.

You’re right to point out “where it’s not the tradition.” I remember epic haggling sessions in the Maghreb over a few coins that delighted both my counterpart and me… Well, that was a long time ago—now it amuses me less…

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Henon21 · 2026-03-04 · Message 216 of 361

Hello, "Tourism officer: plain and simple" What’s more, when you ask guides about clients being stingy (and across several continents), the French always rank among the top!!! As complainers and know-it-alls! - In Southeast Asia, many Vietnamese agencies, to attract customers with low prices, go so far as not to include salaries for the guide and driver. Instead, they inform the client of a "mandatory" daily tip and even specify the amount. And there you have it—responsible tourism. Great post!

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RichardXI · 2026-03-04 · Message 217 of 361

I'm waiting tonight to savor Kate's latest heavenly post

And why would it be the last?

Here I am again 😉

A day in Phetchaburi

72 hours of beach, coconut trees, white sand, pool, and sun loungers is still a lot. To break the relaxing pace of these "sunglasses-swimsuits" days, we set off this morning to visit the small town of Phetchaburi, an hour's drive from the hotel. It was really a great idea to discover this small, lively, and traditional urban center, quite far from Thailand's usual tourist circuits.

But before wandering through the streets of the town center, we had to change our euros into baht, an operation that turned out to be almost miraculous—more difficult than turning water into wine. I think the employees must have had strict instructions, but it took so long! After presenting my passport, which is normal, I hand over my crisp new 50 euro notes, all clean, and wait to receive my baht, confident. However, I notice that the young woman at the counter looks quite stern. She starts by examining each bill one by one, refuses two that are slightly creased, notes down the numbers, checks something on her screen, conducts another inspection, makes me sign I don’t know how many forms, and finally hands me, after a good 20 minutes, some rather worn-out baht. The transaction is complete. Apparently relieved, she finally cracks a smile, which I happily return. End of the banking suspense...



Leaving the relatively busy street where the bank was located, we head into the small adjacent streets lined with shops. On our right, we spot a gateway leading to a covered market: the Phetchaburi Riverside Old Market. We enter the large wooden hall and stroll among the stalls of vegetables, fruits, and fish. There aren’t many people at this hour, and the atmosphere is truly peaceful. The large central space opens onto a lovely terrace by the river, where a row of small kiosks offer street food.





After crossing the bridge behind the market, we discover a whole collection of temples scattered here and there along a series of small esplanades. The multi-tiered roofs punctuate the landscape with their elegant chopas, sculpted in the shape of bird wings. This walk under an increasingly dazzling sun offers a true explosion of colors: the bright white of the facades, the vivid orange of the roofs and window frames, and the multicolored hues of the surrounding gardens. As is often the case in these Buddhist places of worship, the atmosphere is both spiritual and serene, without too much overwhelming solemnity, I find. We even enter one of them to see a monk and his cat, both quietly sitting down to lunch.









It’s time for us to do the same, so we head back to the market terrace to have lunch in the coolness of the hall. I later learned that UNESCO has classified Phetchaburi as a "City of Gastronomy" for its very diverse local cuisine, especially its desserts. Nathalie, who must have had some kind of premonition, tries—without knowing it—one of the most popular desserts in this region: a Khanom Mor Gaeng, unless it’s a Khao Lam, or maybe a Khanom Chan???

It’s starting to get really hot, but we decide to visit the Khmer archaeological site of Wat Kamphaeng Laeng after lunch, a 20-minute walk away. The red sandstone prangs in the Khmer style stand like ghosts frozen in time in this vast, grassy, and silent enclosure, where there’s absolutely no one. Everyone explores the ruins at their own pace. Once the visit is over, we sit for a long time on the lawn benches, contemplating these stone memories.







A taxi picks us up at the exit. And we leave this charming little town almost reluctantly. It’s time to return to our swimsuits. In the middle of the afternoon, we still have plenty of time to enjoy the "pool, sun lounger, beach, pool" routine...

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Solene40 · 2026-03-05 · Message 218 of 361

"Villas scattered throughout a tropical garden that smells wonderfully of frangipani flowers. A clean, vast, deserted beach. Absolute tranquility." Wow, Kate, you're gonna make me fall in love with Thailand all over again if this keeps up 😲. I didn’t think a place like this was possible less than 10 hours from an airport over there 😄. Kudos for the find

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Muriel18 · 2026-03-05 · Message 219 of 361

This is the region where I had planned to start my trip in Thailand, originally scheduled for January but it didn’t happen... still leaves me with some regrets 🤪

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Djalma · 2026-03-05 · Message 220 of 361

There are entire regions in Thailand that tourists completely overlook, and even just a few kilometers from hyper-touristy cities, you can find yourself far from any tourist activity. Like here in France, actually. In the Gévaudan, the Cévennes, the Queyras, or where I live in the Vercors Drôme area, we’re far from the crowds of the Côte d'Azur or Mont Saint-Michel. 😏

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