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Discussion started by Dolma on 2025-07-07

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Vacation

Djalma · 2025-07-14 · Message 21 of 60

Things really need to change by putting all these folks back to work! We’ve got to pay for our pensions (well-earned at 55, mind you) after all ๐Ÿ˜‰ We’re counting on our government ๐Ÿ˜

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Mathews · 2025-07-14 · Message 22 of 60

Hi there, if you're going on vacation, enjoy it to the fullest because things might get rocky when you return. Today, the CAC 40 is in the red, and if you're a manager in a company, you might even be called back to the office in August. All because of the unpredictability of the person leading the USA. Seeing that their measures aren't working, it wouldn't surprise me if they pull another Trafalgar on us.

Vacation Time

Jojoone1 · 2025-07-14 · Message 23 of 60

I did a little research, and if what I read is correct, in the United States, only 15 days of vacation per year are granted at the employer’s discretion! In most Asian countries, it’s 5 to 10 days per year depending on seniority. More fortunate, Austrians get 38 days. At the top of the podium for public holidays: Colombia with its 18 days.

I once read that it was one week at the start of a career, two weeks later, and if all went well, three weeks by the end of a career. At least for those who could have a linear path in the same company.

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Attila · 2025-07-14 · Message 24 of 60

That's what some Americans told me.

More seniority, more vacation days!

We could adapt this for France.

Retirement at 65, but one extra week of vacation per year starting at 60 (funded by the state, not the employer, based on a minimum wage, for example)!

60: 6 weeks 61: 7 weeks 62: 8 weeks 63: 9 weeks 64: 10 weeks 65: time to retire...

Holidays

Voyajou · 2025-07-14 · Message 25 of 60

And here’s the provisional lineup for the shadow government:

Dolma is appointed Minister of Culture Attila is appointed Minister of Holidays, in charge of Labor Mathews is appointed Minister of the Economy and Phynances JojoOne is appointed Secretary of State in charge of Remigrations Djalma is appointed Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of Vacuity

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Jojoone1 · 2025-07-15 · Message 26 of 60

And of course Voyajou in First Class Disaster.

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Djalma · 2025-07-15 · Message 27 of 60

Dolma is named Minister of Culture Attila is named Minister of Vacations, in charge of Labor Mathews is named Minister of the Economy and Phynances JojoOne is named Secretary of State in charge of Remigrations Djalma is named Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of vacuity

Still that irresistible need to display your superiority? To feel above the fray, pulling the strings and handing out the good and bad points?๐Ÿ™

Djalma is named Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of vacuity

It's funny, but this role you so easily assign me—I can just picture you already having done it as a petty bureaucrat behind a desk somewhere in South Africa or in a Parisian closet๐Ÿ˜‰

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Attila · 2025-07-15 · Message 28 of 60

Wasn’t that the Ministry of Free Time? ๐Ÿ˜› So, I’m taking over from Edwige Avice.

I don’t know if I can handle work *and* everything else in just 35 hours a week... I’m a realist, me! ๐Ÿ˜„

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Mathews · 2025-07-15 · Message 29 of 60

Wasn’t it the Ministry of Leisure Time? ๐Ÿ˜›

Yes, the Ministry of Leisure Time actually existed. But now it’s become the primary ministry since civil servants do all the work in its place. All that’s left is to delegate....

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Mathews · 2025-07-15 · Message 30 of 60

Mathews is appointed Minister of the Economy and Finances

I’d have preferred the Ministry of Culture so I could hang out with artists, especially at Hellfest or Printemps de Bourges...

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Attila · 2025-07-15 · Message 31 of 60

Civil servants do all the work for him.

I don’t understand the meaning of this sentence?

Vacation

Kola · 2025-07-15 · Message 32 of 60

now it’s become the top ministry since civil servants are doing all the work for him.

But isn’t he currently, right now, sweating it out and working hard?

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Mathews · 2025-07-15 · Message 33 of 60

I don’t understand the meaning of this sentence?

What I meant was that politicians are mainly there to do PR, so all the actual work is delegated (which is what I wrote) to the administrative services.

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Mathews · 2025-07-15 · Message 34 of 60

But isn't he currently, right now, sweating it out?

yes, most definitely ๐Ÿ™‚ If he wants to save money, retirees might take a hit. So that’ll mean fewer trips to Thailand, Portugal ๐Ÿ˜›

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Jojoone1 · 2025-07-15 · Message 35 of 60

I don’t think a small non-indexation will make much of a difference. At most, they’ll dip into their full savings accounts and other life insurance policies. Nothing new—it’s always us who end up paying for other people’s mistakes; our spot in travelers’ paradise is already secured. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Attila · 2025-07-15 · Message 36 of 60

all the work is delegated (that's what I wrote, after all) to administrative services

To ministry employees who aren't necessarily civil servants and even less so "small hands."

The result wouldn't be such bureaucratic nightmares otherwise.

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Dolma · 2025-07-16 · Message 37 of 60

@ everyone

Four words that intertwine and two pages of replies ๐Ÿ˜ฎ! Wow, that’s something else ๐Ÿ˜‡

Comments on politics, retirement, work, and vacation (seems like ecology is missing) are bickering and applauding, questioning and congratulating each other. I think we’ve just formed a new National Assembly that, of course, looks just like the previous ones—because, as we all know, nothing ever really changes.

I’m really enjoying reading you all ๐Ÿ™‚

Just one thing that strikes me: I wonder how it’s possible to choose a job (with little interest?) just to get the vacations. A passionate job is still a huge advantage when you calculate how many years we spend working!

Vacation

Jojoone1 · 2025-07-16 · Message 38 of 60

Unless you're really passionate, even a job you love can't withstand the wear of time. Everything becomes routine so quickly.

Many who chose a boring job probably don’t have an exciting private life either. My job didn’t often excite me, but once I was out, I enjoyed the pleasures and freedom it afforded me even more. I think some people deliberately choose a well-paid but less interesting job over one they’d enjoy but that pays less.

You could even write a poem about those first moments of vacation—a gulp of pure happiness. A blank page, broken chains, a vast horizon filled with dreams and discoveries, a long-lost energy returning as if by magic, a life coming back to life.

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Mathews · 2025-07-16 · Message 39 of 60

hi there,

4 words that intertwine and 2 pages of replies ๐Ÿ˜ฎ! Wow, that’s too much ๐Ÿ˜‡

Not that off-topic... isn’t *otium*—briefly, free time—a contradiction of work? Etymologically, and everyone knows this, *travail* means torture. But boredom can also be mental torture ๐Ÿ˜‰ It’s certain that when traveling, you eventually get really bored, whether on vacation or in retirement. Patong Beach or Miami Beach or Ibiza—it’s almost deadly dull... No retirement reform on the horizon since retirees are happy being retired and living by the sea, QED. But that’s another topic, already discussed on this forum, I think, ha ha. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Mathews · 2025-07-16 · Message 40 of 60

Unless you're really passionate, even a dream job won't stand the test of time. Everything becomes routine so quickly.

It's true that if you want to reach the holy grail at work, it's tough. But I feel like saying "Get out of here, Sisyphus!" You should consider a craft job like watchmaking, for example. The Swiss do it that way.

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