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Discussion started by Philippebrg on 2026-10-08
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Markets, the living heart of gastronomy and local cuisine.
Chalembert · 2026-10-13 · Message 21 of 50
Fruit bought at a market in Bajawa on the island of Flores (Indonesia): I don’t know its Indonesian name or its French name (if it has one). Pretty good with a creamy texture and a yogurt-like taste! We even ate it with a small spoon.
Hey, my first guess: soursop.
Same family as the sugar apples mentioned in the previous post, but bigger and with a different taste.
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Djalma · 2026-10-13 · Message 22 of 50
Hey
Yeah, those are soursops. They're called graviola in Brazil, where they make really good juice with them.
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Songsam · 2026-10-13 · Message 23 of 50
Yes, you're right, the look matches better.
The correct spelling is "soursop."
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Cerelinde · 2026-10-13 · Message 24 of 50
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Djalma · 2026-10-13 · Message 25 of 50
A variety of jackfruit: the Indonesian cempedak
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Philippebrg · 2026-10-14 · Message 26 of 50
@Cerelinde @Eiger @Songsam
Djalma is right. There was a trick—it’s not jackfruit, even though it’s from the same family; it’s different in many ways. It’s the chempedak, jumpada, jampada, cempadak... (in Thai: จำปาดะ). It’s more elongated and less imposing. The inside forms a cluster where the bulbs are attached, and you can easily remove them, unlike with jackfruit. The bulbs are round, very soft, fleshy, creamy, and the taste is rich, sweet, and sugary.
It stinks... You have to admit it—when the fruit is very ripe, it gives off an incredible smell, not very pleasant. You could compare it to durian, maybe even worse... But man, is it good!
You can also fry the bulbs with their seeds, coated in batter.
It grows mainly in southern Thailand, especially around Nakhon Si Thammarat, which produces a ton of it.

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Cerelinde · 2026-10-14 · Message 27 of 50
Djalma is amazing! ๐
Thanks for the explanation, Philippebrg! ๐
In Indonesia, locals translate it as "jackfruit," but I guess that’s just for convenience.
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Songsam · 2026-10-14 · Message 28 of 50
Markets, the living heart of local gastronomy and cuisine.
Philippebrg · 2026-10-15 · Message 29 of 50
All-you-can-eat dried shrimp.😋
Lovely market, run by what seems to be a Burmese Muslim community.
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Songsam · 2026-10-18 · Message 30 of 50
Markets, the living heart of local gastronomy and cuisine.
Philippebrg · 2026-10-19 · Message 31 of 50
Lovely market, I don’t know this part of Bangkok.
At first, when I saw those stalls of fish or meat, I told myself I’d never buy or eat those products—they weren’t in refrigerated displays. I was worried about hygiene in that heat, with no obvious cold chain management...
But that was before. I admit I don’t pay any special attention to it now. Maybe because I’ve never gotten sick... After every purchase, at home, meats or fish are thoroughly washed. Usually, the food is cooked very well. And what I’m often told is that the meat found in markets comes from animals that were recently slaughtered, and they haven’t been sitting in cold storage—I like to believe that. For fish, since we’re near the sea, they often come straight from the port, which reduces the risks.




I even catch myself eating raw shrimp or oysters...
Though I’m not sure I’d try beef tartare...
Here, oysters are always enjoyed with condiments (grilled onion, garlic, chili paste, lemon, fish sauce, *krathin* (a herb from the mimosa family), and chilies. Without these accompaniments, I admit they have absolutely no flavor...


Shrimp are served raw, on a bed of cabbage or lettuce, with thin slices of *mara* (bitter cucumber) and a sauce made from lemon, chili, and cilantro.

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Songsam · 2026-10-19 · Message 32 of 50
At first, when I saw those stalls with fish or meat, I told myself I’d never buy or eat those products—they weren’t in refrigerated displays. I was worried about hygiene, with the heat and the obvious lack of cold chain management...
But that was before. I admit now I don’t pay any special attention to it anymore.
Whether you cook at home while living there or eat only in street stalls or restaurants as a tourist, the products usually come from the same kind of rustic shops anyway, so...
And some meat or fresh fish vendors who are more careful about hygiene go so far as to set up old, grimy recycled fans as fly repellents by attaching a plastic bag to a single blade spinning just above the goods—it’s reassuring...
Below is an illustration from the Sangkhom market (Nong Khai province, on Route 211) where there are no fewer than 5 fly repellents spinning above the meat. You can also see one (cleaner) in your first photo.

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Songsam · 2026-10-20 · Message 33 of 50
Here, oysters are always enjoyed with condiments (grilled onion, garlic, chili paste, lemon, fish sauce, krathin (a herb from the mimosa family), and chilies. Without these accompaniments, I admit they have absolutely no taste at all...
Oysters in Thailand? I tried them twice. Oh, the rage, oh, the despair!...
They’re completely bland, and for good reason—those #@ยต$ wash them before serving, so goodbye to the briny taste, which is pretty much the only flavor the little critter has. As for the condiments, that little herb (krathin?) in your photo has absolutely no taste, and the rest are just tongue-and-palate-traumatizing stuff for farangs (and oysters!)...
While I’m at it, I’ll also mention prawns and other crustaceans of similar shape, whose species name changes depending on their size. They’re excellent, but damn—will no one ever tell them that grilling on the barbecue isn’t the only way to cook and prepare them?*
During my last visit to the food corner at Chiang Rai’s night bazaar, I noticed that all 20 or 30 food stalls were selling prawns, but just like everywhere else, every vendor served them grilled on the BBQ (and took "uniformity" to the extreme by selling them all at the exact same price). Ffffh...
Conclusion: I love Thai cuisine, but when I start dreaming of a good seafood platter, no way—I’ll wait until I’m back in France**, even if it costs me three times as much.
* You’re implicitly on the mission now ๐
** Or until I go back to Chile or Argentina... ๐
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Chalembert · 2026-10-21 · Message 34 of 50
Oysters in Thailand? I tried them twice. Oh rage, oh despair!...
They’re completely flavorless, and for good reason—those #@ยต$ wash them before serving.
Same thing in Vietnam.
The first time I bought oysters at the nearby market, I saw the vendor open them with a hammer/chisel and then scrub the inside with a high-pressure water jet
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Philippebrg · 2026-10-22 · Message 35 of 50
Here, oysters are systematically enjoyed with condiments (grilled onion, garlic, chili paste, lemon, fish sauce, Krathin—a herb from the mimosa family—and chilies. Without these accompaniments, I admit they have absolutely no taste at all...
Conclusion: I love Thai cuisine, but when I start dreaming of a good seafood platter, well, now I just wait until I’m back in France**, even if it costs me 3 times as much.
* You’re implicitly on the mission now ๐
** Or to head back to Chile or Argentina... ๐
Please don’t talk to me about seafood platters... I’m drooling...๐คช
I don’t even know if it’s the fact that they’re washed before eating that removes the briny taste, or if they just don’t have it to begin with...
For raw shrimp, they’re washed with sparkling water... ๐
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Philippebrg · 2026-10-22 · Message 36 of 50
Oysters in Thailand? I tried them twice. Oh rage, oh despair!...
They’re completely tasteless, and for good reason—those #@ยต$ wash them before serving!
Same thing in Vietnam.
The first time I bought oysters at the nearby market, I saw the vendor open them with a hammer/chisel and then scrub the inside with a high-pressure water jet
Do they taste the same as in Thailand? Do you eat them with condiments too?
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Chalembert · 2026-10-22 · Message 37 of 50
They’re always cooked in the shell, over charcoal, with various sauces and ingredients: butter (actually margarine), green onion, peanut, chili... and even Laughing Cow cheese! ๐
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Philippebrg · 2026-10-22 · Message 38 of 50
Mmmmm, oysters with Laughing Cow cheese, what a wild combo 😄. Had to be bold.🤪
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Chalembert · 2026-10-22 · Message 39 of 50
Coming from a region where the only accepted pairing for oysters is Muscadet, it’s definitely a change
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Songsam · 2026-10-23 · Message 40 of 50
Coming from a region where the only accepted pairing for oysters is muscadet, it’s definitely a change
Not even Gros Plant is tolerated??