So where are they and what are they doing? (page 20 of 33)

It seems Tatra is becoming a punching bag for some again

I haven’t read anything like that. Tatra writes a message, he gets replies. They don’t always agree with him, which is a good thing for diverse opinions.

Where did Tatra say he preferred Afghanistan to France?)

I’m not telling anyone anything new by saying Tatra does a lot of France-bashing all over the forum. He’s way less critical when it comes to other countries. Maybe the U.S. and Spanish-speaking countries...

Anyway, he gives the impression that France is hell compared to other countries that are actually ranked at the bottom of many lists.

It’s up to him to correct the image some of us (including me) have of him based on his posts. 🙂 If that image is wrong, that is. Tatra is a mystery. Is he for real or just trolling? I’ve never been able to tell.

Hi. Things are going downhill fast—explosion, implosion, we're in the negative. Moderation helps, but it can spiral quickly, especially with topics like money, religion, and politics. I’m not in the mood to stand out with crazy hair.

Yeah, there are some new faces, but it’s still pretty quiet.

Anyway, a lot of the answers are already in the forum! !

Alright, a little Tatra-punching bag session!

Tatra is handing out the stick to get beaten.

So, does that mean we need to take it on? And that there’s a proper way to handle it? Fits right in with the times, doesn’t it.

A tip: if it drives you nuts, just skip it and leave the reading to others.

If you don’t get the metaphors, too bad! It’s not me who used the term "punching bag."

would there be a decent line to follow?

Yes, a code of conduct! When I read in this message: "It’s shocking to say such a thing," I find that it’s not very respectful. And I find the rest of their message disturbing. Everything’s attacked: the Caillavet law, which helped save lives, as well as screening campaigns. Are we serious here?

A tip: if he gets on your nerves, just skip it and let others read it.

Great advice, thanks! Besides, it’s not just him, and I’m simply going to skip VF altogether. Won’t be a big loss! Happy reading! 😛

just skip it altogether

But if no one engages with them, they’ll get bored.

And if only those who share their real or imagined views reply, the forum’s gonna get boring... Might as well just add a like button and send little hearts.

Agnès,

And if only those who share his real or imagined positions respond to him, the forum is going to get boring...

But you’re not stating any position—just a kind of aggressive disbelief.

What I’m presenting is a liberal philosophy, classically rooted in the humanist concept of "natural rights," in its Anglo-Saxon evolution—Hayek, Nozick, Ruwen Ogien. Apparently, that’s enough to knock you off your chair.

Michel

PS: I’m in favor of donation, even organ sales, but against the state’s appropriation of bodies, indeed. Nothing so extraordinary. It’s not me who proposed the Avia law or who files bills to remove online anonymity in France. For the rest, ask in a PM—I’ll provide sources if you can’t find them.

I’m hardly likely to fall off my chair reading you. As I mentioned before, I see you through your posts as some kind of histrionic actor. And even if you weren’t, it wouldn’t change a thing. 🙂

I’m hardly likely to fall off my chair reading you. As I’ve said before, I see you through your posts as a bit of a histrionic, an actor. And even if you weren’t, it wouldn’t change a thing.🙂

Some people just can’t ever think outside their own certainties. Oh well. Have a good evening.

Michel

Yeah, I’m stubborn. You’re absolutely right. 😉

See you soon.

Good evening Anne-Claire,

On the other hand, some members join in to participate and are simply ignored by the big names in the discussions, which makes them feel out of their depth. So they give up. It seems like an insider’s club.😕

I share this observation. I’d add this: experts (the big names) on a destination or topic often welcome new message authors—and sometimes it’s their very first post—with condescension, if not outright contempt and sarcasm. That shuts people down.

Yes, I’m stubborn.

I agree 😇, but in the *Mille Bornes* game, you’re way behind your conversation partner!

Still, you’ve got support: "Thinking against oneself, says the philosopher. Yes, of course. As if the rest of the world weren’t already doing that. Thinking against yourself, being ruthless with your own certainties: fine. But this mental gymnastics still strikes me as intellectual vanity dressed up as modesty—it’s gratifying to imagine you’re thinking against yourself, and saying so lets you wrap your smugness in the guise of humility."

There are people like that who can never think against their own certainties.

That was clearly a self-portrait.

@Herodotos

Yes, a principle to live by! When I read in this message: "It’s shocking to say such a thing," I don’t think it’s very respectful. And I find the rest of their message disturbing.

I share your outrage.

I share your outrage.

That’s the whole difference between us, Jean Luc; I don’t pass moral judgment on viewpoints that aren’t my own. Should I refrain from expressing—let alone referencing—viewpoints just because they ruffle your feathers? Nah.

Agnès is heading to Central Asia soon, and it’s going to be a game-changer for her. Right now, at least one new flight route opens every week between the Stans/Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Russia. Central Asia is clearly turning toward a certain world—one that’s nothing like European progressivism.

Michel

[ Central Asia is clearly turning toward a certain world, one that is not at all that of European progressivism. Michel

With those people, we’re clearly progressivizing our way toward the abyss. Denial of self, of one’s culture, even of one’s civilization.

hi Jojoone and Attila, Sophie Lefol (la chair à nu) has struck again in the Morocco section 🤪

Can’t we send an image in a private message?

I’m starting to reach an age where it’s not really reasonable to post pictures anymore 😉

Let’s just say the kind of travel this person suggests doesn’t meet my standards, which have always been pretty high. I also doubt we’ll ever see them in the "Hiking" section unless they get into outdoor sports. I’ll stop there—it’s easy to dive into the unfathomable 😉

Can’t we send an image in a private message?

You can.

Through a workaround that’s mentioned somewhere on this forum...

Currently, at least one new airline route opens every week between the Stans/Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Russia. Central Asia is clearly turning toward a certain world—one that’s not at all aligned with European progressivism.

Hey there, mysterious one (even though I don’t find you mysterious at all)

Isn’t that kind of normal? A region of "strong" men (what a strange idea of strength), long tightly tied (or even shackled?) to Russia within the USSR. Now, it’s dealing with the return of religion—in this case, Islam—and its spiritual-political offensive. The West, with its material comfort/Prozac combo, isn’t exactly appealing in this context.

Cat