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In the Land of Mountain Gorillas: An "Epic" Trip Report

Atila · 2020-02-09 · Message 41 of 143

A trip that didn’t exactly go like clockwork...

Hard to believe some people think South Africa, Namibia, and Botswana are *too* structured! They’d better not head to Rwanda, where it feels like every animal has a guide lurking behind it with a dollar cash register... 🤪

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Sissi57 · 2020-02-09 · Message 42 of 143

Hi there, I don’t want to clutter the travel journal with too many financial digressions, but does anyone know who actually benefits from all these $$$$? These activities are really expensive, especially compared to the overall standard of living in these countries. Do conservation efforts for wildlife and their habitat actually see any of this money, or does it end up in a few high-up pockets?

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Rjulie95 · 2020-02-09 · Message 43 of 143

I don’t know about everyone else, but for example, in 1988, there were only around four to five hundred mountain gorillas left. Now, the count is up to 1,060—those numbers speak for themselves!

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Sissi57 · 2020-02-09 · Message 44 of 143

I don’t deny it—it’s a good thing there’s an improvement, and I truly hope the species is saved. But when I see the prices charged for even the shortest excursion, I can’t help but wonder: are the salaries of park employees really that high? I can assume that good wages might deter poaching temptations, but does an employee earn even a fraction of what’s charged for a single day’s gorilla trek in a month? I just can’t shake the feeling that some of that money might be going... elsewhere...

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Blesl · 2020-02-09 · Message 45 of 143

Good evening Antoinette,

I understand your concerns. Human nature is what it is—when temptations are strong and safeguards limited, well... And this is true in every country, even those that claim to be developed/civilized/democratic/etc.

But I think we have to be pragmatic. The main thing is that in the end, wildlife is preserved, even if there was some leakage along the financial chain...

Plus, these high fees—likely the equivalent of a basic annual salary—can help local communities realize the value of wildlife and the importance of protecting it. As Mwalimu Nyerere stated in his Arusha Manifesto (back in 1961!):

"The survival of wildlife is a matter of great concern to all of us in Africa. These wild animals and the natural spaces they inhabit are not only an important source of wonder and inspiration but also an integral part of our natural resources, our future livelihoods, and our well-being. By accepting the stewardship of our wildlife, we solemnly declare that we will do everything in our power to ensure that our grandchildren’s children will be able to enjoy this rich and precious heritage. The conservation of wildlife and natural spaces requires specialized knowledge, trained personnel, and money, and we look to other nations to cooperate with us in this important task, the success or failure of which will affect not only the African continent but also the rest of the world."

Have a good evening,

BL

PS: Lovely colobus photos, Esther! !

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Rjulie95 · 2020-02-09 · Message 46 of 143

Does an employee even earn in a month what’s charged for a single day’s gorilla trek? I can’t help but wonder if some of that money goes... elsewhere...

But—do you think it’s any better where we live? I work for a service company, and do you really think half of what’s billed actually gets passed on? We’re nowhere near that level.

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Sissi57 · 2020-02-09 · Message 47 of 143

even if there was some evaporation during the financial circuit..

I really like the term "evaporation".....

In the Land of Mountain Gorillas: Epic Trip Recap

Plumini · 2020-02-09 · Message 48 of 143

Day 7

Today’s all about birdwatching! Since yesterday’s guide left for Kigali, we’ve got Daniel as our guide. At 7:00 AM, we head out to look for birds along the edge of the forest, walking beside the RN6 road that cuts through the park. Just a few minutes in, Daniel gets a call—a group’s joining us because there’s no other guide available. We’re happy to see the Australians from our guesthouse show up.



Together, we spot some beautiful species, including the impressive "Giant Turaco." They’re *really* into birds, while we’re more general wildlife lovers.











We’re supposed to take a break at 10:00 AM and resume at 3:00 PM for the second part.

By 11:00 AM, when we reach the rangers’ post, Daniel suggests continuing until 2:00 PM because he’s worried the rain might ruin this afternoon’s outing. While waiting for the go-ahead—imagining the head ranger—we spot a L’Hoest’s monkey.



We quickly head back to the guesthouse to grab bananas and caps, then make our way to a patch of forest in the middle of tea plantations.

It’s pretty quiet—it *is* noon 😅—and it’s pretty hot. Still, we spot a long-crested eagle, some weavers, and a village weaver.







Daniel suggests changing spots and heading to another forest patch near a tea factory, just 5 minutes away by car. Daniel tries to reach Ronnie, but he’s disappeared and unreachable... so the Australians make a round trip to pick us up since we don’t all fit in their RAV4.

We walk along another stretch of fragmented forest before crossing it to head back to the car around 2:30 PM. This afternoon, the forest feels pretty empty... but it’s the only time we’ll visit it during these 2.5 days in Nyungwe.





Back at the guesthouse, it starts pouring. Phew! Made it back just in time! 😊

We’re starving, but they’re not serving food at this hour. We ask Joseph if he can bring us a banana and some toast. The rest of the afternoon is spent drinking tea indoors.

That evening, we’re back to stew on the menu. Then we pack our bags because tomorrow we’re off to Lake Kivu.

Tonight’s chilly, and I fall asleep in my fleece and a beanie.

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Blesl · 2020-02-09 · Message 49 of 143

Evening Esther,

Great shots from the wild (though the cercopithecus is also awesome), the turaco is impressive and the yellow white-eye is so cute!

Thanks for sharing!

BL

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Muriel18 · 2020-02-10 · Message 50 of 143

It's true, those turacos are gorgeous 🙂.

Daniel tries to contact Ronnie, but he’s disappeared and can’t be reached...

Seriously, you didn’t have the best driver 🤪🏴‍☠️. Muriel

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Ticapi · 2020-02-10 · Message 51 of 143

Hi Esther,

You were really patient with your driver-guide. I wouldn’t have put up with that level of incompetence. 😐

The agency doesn’t seem professional—they should’ve warned you about the activities and costs upfront. Anyway, I think we got really lucky with our guide and driver.

Carmen

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Rotsaka · 2020-02-14 · Message 52 of 143

No, Ronnie is really a total disaster, and the agency is really unprofessional. I don’t know how much they charged you for all that, but it was definitely way too much.

So, let’s not blame Rwanda for the agency’s inaccuracies and amateurism.

Regarding the price of the parks and gorilla treks: yes, it’s expensive, but it’s legitimate to ask why. In Rwanda, the money is actually very well managed and tightly controlled. It won’t disappear into pockets like some have suggested, and it’s invested in the environment (the natural forest shows no degradation, even though the country’s density—450 people/km²—and the use of wood for cooking should mean it’s either gone or heavily damaged). As mentioned, the number of gorillas is increasing, and communities that once relied on poaching have been supported. African Parks, which manages Akagera, is like an international foundation, so if money *is* going into pockets there, they’re not Rwandan ones. To understand African Parks—they’re not motivated by money, managing many natural areas in hard-to-reach and dangerous places like Garamba in the DRC.

Ronnie’s fear of the police seems exaggerated, but it’s true that in Rwanda, like in any normal country, if you’re at fault, you have to pay or stop the car—no bribing allowed. That’s not really the case in Uganda, though.

It’s possible they couldn’t stop on the road to Nyungwe for photos, but definitely not because you’re not allowed to photograph animals outside paid treks. If that instruction was given (though I’m not aware of it), it would’ve been purely for safety (hence the heavy military presence), as there have been attacks on both the Rwandan and Burundian sides (the Kibira Forest, which is Nyungwe’s Burundian counterpart) by rebel groups. The proximity to Burundi is a bigger concern than the DRC. Maybe the army discouraged stops in the forest for that reason. But otherwise, I stop there every time for photos, to see animals, and to admire the landscapes.

Finally, when it comes to good guides, it’s possible to choose great treks with the right pros for the required price and not have everything ruined because the car breaks down or the schedule is poorly organized.

And besides that, there are plenty of other things to do that aren’t so expensive.

To wrap up, it’s true that some hotels are quite pricey for what they offer, and once again, it’s the agency’s job to choose and prepare (by picking the best value for money). Because you *can* find places that are both affordable and good.

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Max68 · 2020-02-14 · Message 53 of 143

Bravo 🙂, The photos are absolutely stunning! I’d also hoped to see a turaco… no luck though 😛 😎

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Ticapi · 2020-02-15 · Message 54 of 143

+1 for the photos, they're really beautiful.

Can't wait for the rest! :)

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Plumini · 2020-02-15 · Message 55 of 143

Day 8

This morning, after breakfast, we said goodbye to Joseph. The guesthouse was very simple, but Joseph’s kindness—and that of everyone else who worked there—as well as the food, made for great moments and lovely memories. We left Nyungwe Park to head to Gisenyi on the shores of Lake Kivu, where we’d spend the night before crossing the border into Uganda the next day.

The sky was overcast, and it started to rain. The road wound along the hills. Tea fields gave way to rice paddies, then back to tea fields.







The ground was soft, and we saw a few landslides. We arrived at a spot where the hillside had spilled onto the road. Police were already on the scene. We let two cars coming from the opposite direction pass—one was spinning its wheels in the mud. The officer waved us through. We drove onto the muddy section, and luckily, the 4x4 handled it well. Just as we passed, two rocks the size of a good fifty centimeters in diameter came tumbling down the slope 😱😅.







About fifty kilometers before Gisenyi, a motorcyclist flagged us down. Since it was raining, he asked if we could take his passenger, who was headed to the same place as us. Ronnie asked if we were okay with it. We turned the question back to him—it was his car, and he was driving. He said it was up to us since we were the clients. Okay then, if we could help out. Our new passenger was very grateful and, in broken English, thanked us profusely.

Ten minutes later, with the woman now sitting next to him, he told us the vehicle was only insured for the driver and two passengers. "So what does that mean?" He didn’t answer…

Around 1:00 PM, after just over four hours on the road, we finally arrived in Gisenyi, a town on the northern shore of Lake Kivu, bordering Goma in the DRC.

The tour operator had told us we’d be staying at the Musanto Hotel by the lake. Ronnie wanted to "stick us" in a hotel up the hill. We insisted on staying by the lake, as agreed. Luckily, there was still a room available.

No activities were planned in the package for that afternoon, and Ronnie made that clear. We asked the hotel receptionist if it was possible to arrange a boat tour. Ronnie wasn’t happy because he didn’t know what we’d be doing the next morning (he’d planned a boat tour for the following day). No big deal—we could do another boat tour; the lake’s big enough ;-)

The boat tour cost $50 USD for an hour and a half. It seemed expensive, but after three afternoons of doing nothing, we really wanted to do something, especially since the weather was nice!

We ordered food at the hotel restaurant, and an hour and fifteen minutes later, we could finally eat. The boat tour was arranged with the receptionist’s cousin. We needed a car to get to the boat since it was docked in a small village a few kilometers from Gisenyi. Ronnie had to take us there and said he’d agreed with the guide that the boat would drop us off at the end of the excursion in Gisenyi, a five-minute walk from the hotel.

At 3:30 PM, we were finally on the lake. We saw a few artisanal fishing boats docked and some birds too. They dropped us off on a peninsula, which we crossed on foot. We walked among flowers, birds, and goats. The scenery was idyllic, and we were happy to stretch our legs in such a beautiful place. It was really hot—probably around 30°C.

our boat























We met some kids—most said hello, then asked for… money… 😱. Others were more direct. "Give me money" was on just about every lip. We found it really sad… 😢

The hour and a half flew by, and we returned to shore where we’d boarded. Wait—had we misunderstood Ronnie? The guide told us Ronnie had asked to take us back to Gisenyi, but since he’d have to spend gas on the round trip, it would cost us an extra $50. "Uh, you’ve got to be kidding?" We quickly asked the guide to call Ronnie to come pick us up. If he’d asked for $10, we probably would’ve paid, but $50 for a 12-kilometer round trip seemed way over the top.

Ronnie didn’t answer right away, and the guide had to call him again. He told us it wasn’t safe to stay at the port and suggested we start walking toward Gisenyi. We walked along the road and began climbing the hill. It was scorching hot—after about twenty minutes of walking, we figured Ronnie shouldn’t be far since it had taken less than ten minutes to get there. We stopped in the shade and were quickly surrounded by about fifteen kids watching us.

Minutes passed, and still no Ronnie. The guide tried calling him. He said he was already there… then backtracked. Fifteen minutes later, the guide called Ronnie again. This time, he said he was on the road near the brewery. Except we were much higher up on the (only) road, and none of us had seen him pass—and a safari car stands out. The guide told him where we were; he couldn’t have missed us. Five minutes later, we saw him coming from Gisenyi—not from the brewery, which was in the opposite direction. Long story short, he’d, shall we say, bent the truth a bit. He wasn’t happy and told us he’d agreed with the guide that he’d bring us back by boat and that we’d been okay with it. That was true, but no one had told us we’d be charged an extra $50. We couldn’t really tell if he was mad at us or the other guide…

Anyway, we went back to the hotel, pre-ordered dinner, and had a drink. The night was mild, and the temperature was just right.

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Marati · 2020-02-15 · Message 56 of 143

Here’s how a clown of a guide can ruin a vacation 🤪😠!! I can tell you’re holding back a bit in your travel journal, but I get what you’re really thinking. Makes me understand why you’d want a self-drive trip for next summer...😕 Thanks for sharing.

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Rotsaka · 2020-02-15 · Message 57 of 143

In any case, admiration and respect for your zen attitude and kindness. You managed to keep the positive side of the trip (and some amazing photos) despite a real pain who could have ruined the trip for people with less patience than you. With just a fraction of the tricks he pulled, some (and maybe me) would’ve probably lost it by now... So, bravo!

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Rjulie95 · 2020-02-15 · Message 58 of 143

What a clown that guide was! You’re so chill—I admit I would’ve lost it a long time ago. I’m not as zen as you are !

Some gorgeous photos 😛

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Plumini · 2020-02-16 · Message 59 of 143

Here I am, exposed! 😉

I didn’t want to clutter my travel journal with my feelings too much, even though it’s true that I—well, *we*—regret not listening to our gut and hiring that tour operator/guide.

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Plumini · 2020-02-16 · Message 60 of 143

In any case, admiration and respect for your zen attitude and kindness. You managed to keep the positive side of the trip (and take amazing photos) despite a real pain who could’ve ruined the experience for people with less patience than you. With even a fraction of the tricks he pulled, some (and maybe me) would’ve probably lost it by now... So, bravo!

Thanks! We’re only at the end of the first week... He’ll have tested all our patience/tolerance by the end of the trip... because when it comes to "playing tricks," unfortunately, it’s not over yet.

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