Cabin baggage size (1 centimeter over) (page 4 of 5)

Hello,

Originally, that was the principle 🙂 : cabin bags light enough to be carried easily. By charging for checked baggage, airlines encouraged people to abuse the system, and manufacturers flooded the market with those rigid suitcases that now cause overcrowding issues in the cabin.

Michel

False. If those suitcases meet the standards and are stored properly, then there’s no problem. Oh, but yes, that requires a minimum of responsibility from the passenger—something you strongly oppose.

I think we can’t discuss this with you when your bad faith is so obvious. Do you really think 3 standard-sized cabin bags fit in the overhead compartments in a row on a domestic flight in France, for example????

... The prepared passenger doesn’t wait until the last minute to board, so they have a tiny chance of having to check their bag into the hold...

You should read the messages before replying. Almost the entire discussion is about bags being checked into the hold, including just before entering the plane, during boarding when staff walk among passengers.

It *does* make a difference—if you’re not among the last to arrive, there’s no obligation to check your bag into the hold because, surprise, there’s still space in the cabin. Assuming, of course, the bag meets the size requirements. Some here seem to believe passengers have only rights and no responsibilities when it comes to luggage.

How can I put this? You’re being a bit much. We’ve explained A + B that this has *nothing* to do with the order you arrive at check-in. Are you even reading the messages? We’ve told you it’s in the BOARDING area that staff walk around and check bags that are *within the limits*. The hold is nearly empty, and everyone *wanted* to take their cabin bags. But when the plane is full, staff come around in the BOARDING zone to TAKE BACK your bag and put it in the hold. At check-in, all these people got through without any remarks from the check-in staff. Is that clear enough for you now? Whether you arrived 3 hours early or 10 minutes before check-in closed, you’re treated the same way. And in my case, it was on AF. There you go: CHECK-IN/BOARDING/CABIN/HOLD—see the difference?

So what? You can put a bag under the seat—it’s up to you to plan ahead if there’s something you really can’t part with. You can whine or be insulting, but the facts are there: with a little organization, there’s no need to part with the essentials.

Hello,

Originally, that was the principle 🙂 : cabin bags light enough to be carried easily. By charging for checked baggage, airlines encouraged people to exploit the system, and manufacturers flooded the market with these rigid suitcases that now cause overcrowding in cabins.

Michel

Wrong. If those suitcases meet the size requirements and are stowed properly, there’s no issue. Oh, but yes, that requires a minimum of responsibility from the passenger—something you strongly oppose.

I think we can’t discuss this with you when your bad faith is so obvious. Do you really believe three standard-sized cabin bags fit in the overhead compartments for a row on a domestic flight in France, for example????

Yes. Here’s the best way to stow your carry-on luggage on a plane Oh, sure, if you just toss everything in haphazardly…

Of course you can rush out your meds, stuff them in your pockets, grab your laptop under your arm, and board like that... Travel that way, and still have to wait for your luggage for half an hour standing in front of a conveyor belt on arrival. But that’s not a decent, respectful, or proper way to treat people who’ve gone to the trouble of packing their bags by the rules.

Michel

... The prepared passenger doesn’t wait until the last minute to board either, so they’ve got a slim chance of having to check their bag...

You need to read the messages before replying. Almost the entire discussion is about bags being checked into the hold, including just before entering the plane, when staff walk among passengers during boarding. Prepared or not, it doesn’t change a thing.

It *does* change things, because if you’re not among the last to arrive, there’s no obligation to check your bag since—oh, surprise—there’s still space in the cabin. Assuming, of course, the bag meets the size requirements. Naturally, some here firmly believe passengers only have rights and no responsibilities when it comes to luggage.

How can I put this? You’re being a bit much. We’ve explained to you A + B that this has *nothing* to do with the order you arrive at check-in. Are you even reading the messages? We’ve told you it’s in the BOARDING area that staff walk around and check bags that are WITHIN THE RULES. The hold is nearly empty, and everyone *wanted* to take their cabin bags. But since they don’t fit when the flight’s full, staff take your bag—right there in the BOARDING zone—to put it in the hold. At check-in, all these people passed without any issues from the CHECK-IN staff. Is that clear enough for you now? Whether you arrived 3 hours early or 10 minutes before check-in closed, you’re treated the same way. And in my case, it was on AF. There you go: CHECK-IN/BOARDING/CABIN/HOLD—see the difference?

So what? You can put a bag under the seat—it’s up to you to plan ahead if there’s something you really can’t part with. You can whine or be insulting, but the facts remain: with a little organization, there’s no need to part with the essentials.

With Transavia, the rules are simple and it's not really hard to comply with them.

Of course you can rush to grab your meds, stuff them in your pockets, carry on with your laptop under your arm, and board like that...

Whoa, so much bad faith—even from you—it’s becoming laughable. You pack your meds in a bag that fits under the seat *right from the start*. That’s called being prepared.

Well, yes... Suspenders and belt... Hi-vis vest, whistle, survival mirror, and 20 meters of rope.

So you're recommending mandatory nested bags—nice idea, you should patent it. 🙂🤪

Michel

Of course you can rush out your meds in an emergency, stuff them in your pockets, grab your laptop under your arm, and board like that...

Whoa, so much bad faith—even from you, it’s becoming laughable. You pack your meds right from the start in a bag that fits under the seat. That’s called being prepared.

Alright, it's clear you're trolling, so there's no point in continuing. Come back when you've grown up a bit.

Oh sure... Braces and belt... Hi-vis vest, whistle, survival mirror, and 20 meters of rope.

So you're recommending mandatory nested bags—cute idea, you should patent it. 🙂🤪

Michel

Of course you can rush out your meds, stuff them in your pockets, grab your laptop under your arm, and board like that...

Whoa, so much bad faith—even from you, it’s becoming laughable. You pack your meds right from the start in a bag that fits under the seat. That’s called being prepared.

But I was being very serious, my dear Olivier. Just as much as you, in any case... 😏

Michel

Alright, it’s obvious you’re trolling—no point in continuing. Come back when you’ve grown up a bit.

Oh, sure... Braces and belt... Hi-vis vest, whistle, survival mirror, and 20 meters of rope.

So you’re recommending mandatory nested bags—cute idea, you should patent it. 🙂🤪

Michel

Of course you can rush to grab your meds, stuff them in your pockets, then carry on with your laptop under your arm and board like that...

Whoa, so much bad faith—even from you, it’s becoming laughable. You pack your meds right from the start in a bag that fits under the seat. That’s called being prepared.

Hi there, The BA rule is simple: Two bags allowed in the cabin—the smaller one must go under the seat and the larger one in the overhead bin.

BA also clearly states that cabin bags may be placed in the hold.

Hi there,

BA isn’t exactly a dream airline 🙂.

Michel

Hello, BA’s rule is simple: Two bags allowed in the cabin—the smaller one must fit under the seat, and the larger one in the overhead bin.

BA also makes it clear that cabin bags can be checked into the hold.

Hi there There’s no more leniency with European airlines. 😠😠 The only upside is that BA is significantly cheaper than other airlines when flying from LUX.

From what I know, which is limited, BA is roughly on par with SAS but without the advantage of CPH. For me, it's below carriers like LH, LX, A3, and only just on the level of LO and SN. Nowhere near TK. I’d drive or take the train 500 km to find a decent airport—Luxembourg gives you plenty of options.

Michel

Good evening There’s no more dream left in European airlines. The only thing going for BA is that it’s significantly cheaper than other airlines from LUX.

Hi Michel,

Just a note about the wheels...

On Air France, the allowed weight for carry-on luggage in economy is 12 kg. Wheels are really helpful when you hit that limit, especially with transfers in huge airports. In our case, my partner and I take our photography gear in the cabin—it’s heavy (and expensive, and tempting, so AF actually advises not to put anything valuable—or fragile—in the hold). That said, I completely agree with sticking to the rules, wheels or no wheels...

Have a good evening,

BL

I’ll add that the weight of a rolling suitcase isn’t negligible—it’s less space for your stuff!

My soft bag weighs only 200 g, so I can bring 12 kg of belongings. That said, I avoid maxing it out because it *is* heavy. But I like the peace of mind of keeping my luggage with me.

Everyone chooses the suitcase or bag that works for them, for sure. But the fact remains that this system has its limits, since Ryanair has drastically restricted the number of cabin bags.

Hi there;

For cabin baggage, the issue isn’t the weight but the dimensions. A soft bag is more likely to exceed the size limit if it’s stuffed (as I often see), whereas a hard-shell suitcase won’t. At some airports, you’ll struggle with your soft bag packed at 12 kilos because of the distances you have to cover—whether walking or running.😉

Stricter enforcement of cabin baggage dimensions is a necessity.

It’s true that denser planes and HBO fares don’t help solve the problem of cabin baggage space. But if only passengers could already fit their cabin bags under the seat.....

Hi,

I don’t see why a passenger with just a modest soft bag should have to sacrifice legroom, space for their legs, or their in-flight comfort just because some people prefer to bring hard-shell roller suitcases that are often empty. A passenger without a hard-shell bag isn’t a second-class passenger.

Michel

Hi Michel,

I didn’t explain myself well—I was talking about the second cabin bag. Of course, only for airlines that allow it ;)

So if the soft bag is the only cabin baggage, does it still have to go in the hold? 🙂

Michel

Hi Michel

I didn’t explain myself well—I was talking about the second cabin bag. Of course, this applies to airlines that allow it 😉

Yes Sir.