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Discussion started by Moushika on 2019-10-26

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Here and there... my walks through the land of pralines, couques, and gosettes...

Moushika · 2019-12-14 · Message 61 of 179

Thanks for this discovery!

I see at the end of the video that they’re also "suppliers to the court," meaning the Royal Palace! 🙂

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Masterpo · 2019-12-14 · Message 62 of 179

I didn’t mention it earlier, but in Paris, you can obviously find Marcolini, Leonidas, Godiva... and Neuhaus shops 😛

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An5 · 2019-12-14 · Message 63 of 179

Yeah, there are quite a few good chocolatiers in the Low Countries, but I’ve noticed that the French taste for chocolate is different—they often prefer it sweeter. Now that I live in France, I find Jeff de Bruges chocolates aren’t great at all. They’re apparently from the same company as Leonidas, the praline brand that doesn’t have the same reputation in France as it does in Belgium. There are artisan chocolatiers to discover in both France and Belgium, but you’ve got to be willing to pay for top quality. Like with everything, right?

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Moushika · 2019-12-14 · Message 64 of 179

There are many Belgian chocolatiers now. Among the most famous: Pierre Marcolini, Passion Chocolat, Planète Chocolat, Léonidas, Godiva... and of course Neuhaus.

I really like Galler—there’s one in Paris. 😎

Here, you can find it in the form of chocolate bars in supermarkets... I love it dark with an orange flavor 😉

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Masterpo · 2019-12-14 · Message 65 of 179

Here, you can find them in the form of chocolate bars, in supermarkets....

Yeah, and you can start buying them as soon as you get to Gare du Midi.

I really like it dark with an orange flavor 😉

There are so many great flavors that it's hard to choose.

But what I particularly love are their Langues de Chat. Too bad it's Qatari-owned, though.

But Godiva is Turkish, after all 😛

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Moushika · 2019-12-14 · Message 66 of 179

Our pralines are fought over all over the world! 😏

https://www.lecho.be/entreprises/alimentation-boisson/la-chocolaterie-belge-de-godiva-sous-controle-sud-coreen/10101297.html

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Masterpo · 2019-12-14 · Message 67 of 179

I’d completely forgotten about the Korean takeover of Godiva... I’ll update my stash. (Of chocolate, of course)

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Moushika · 2019-12-18 · Message 68 of 179

I totally get why some people don’t want to visit Charleroi when exploring Belgium. It’s definitely not the country’s most beautiful city, and some stories might’ve unfairly darkened its reputation.

I felt like checking it out today, on a sunny December day. Oh, I’ve passed through often enough, but always just to switch trains or head to the airport—not to actually visit.

Everything started back in 1666 when Charles II, the King of Spain, bought the seigneury of Charnoy, which became Charleroi in honor of the king. ...Two centuries later, in the second half of the 19th century, Charleroi and its surrounding area produced more than half of the country’s wealth, making Belgium the second-largest industrial power in the world, no less. That wealth came from steel, metalwork, and glass production, all tied to coal mining. In the 19th century, coal deposits were right at the surface, earning the region the nickname Pays Noir (Black Country).

In the 20th century, oil slowly but surely replaced coal, and by the late 1960s, the mines shut down one after another.

Before the mines closed, six slag heaps dominated the landscape. Today, they’ve turned into lush green hills, biodiversity hotspots, crisscrossed by the Ravel network, which offers walks on foot, horseback, and by bike. ravel.wallonie.be/...arleroi-a-thuin.html

As you leave Charleroi-Sud station, you’re greeted by Spirou and his squirrel Spip (a statue by Luc Cauwenbergh).



Around the city, you’ll find other statues of comic book heroes published by Dupuis (Les Éditions Dupuis were born in Marcinelle, part of Charleroi).

Another of these heroes is the Marsupilami, created by Franquin in 1952 for the *Spirou et Fantasio* series.



To reach the city center, just walk straight ahead, cross the Sambre via King Baudouin Bridge, and you’re there.

What immediately stands out is the number of closed shops, starting in the Passage de la Bourse in the lower city—one of Europe’s first shopping arcades, dating back to the late 19th century. It’s kept some of its old splendor, but its glory days are over.





A little further on, at the corner of Boulevard Joseph Tirou and Place Verte, the Old Charleroi Post Office has housed the Molière bookstore since 1996 (it originally opened in 1983). The bookstore was featured in a scene from the film *Odette Toulemonde*.

To get to the Upper City, you’ll need to climb up Rue de la Montagne. Here too, empty shops are everywhere. At No. 38, you can see sgraffito art by Paul Cauchie, in pretty rough shape.

At the top sits Place Charles II, home to City Hall, built in the 1930s, with its belfry listed as a UNESCO World Heritage site.



It used to house the Museum of Fine Arts, but that’s now on Place du Manège, just behind Place Charles II. Place Charles II is also where you’ll find Saint-Christophe Church, an old garrison chapel.



The choir of this Baroque church, modified over the centuries, now features a mosaic by Jean Ransy illustrating the Apocalypse of St. John.



These days, the church is hosting a nativity scene exhibition.



On one of the streets leading to Place Charles II, Rue Tumelaire, you’ll find the Maison Dorée at No. 15—an Art Nouveau gem that’s now a press house.



At the end of Rue Tumelaire, you can see a slag heap in the distance, where nature has reclaimed the land—just like at the end of other streets.



Before heading back, I’d recommend trying cuberdons, cone-shaped candies made of sugar, gum arabic, and fruity flavors—a Belgian specialty I spotted some great displays of here in Charleroi.

Also try Carabouillas, a Borinage specialty: black, crunchy anise candies mixed with other flavors. Originally throat lozenges, they’ve gained a reputation for keeping you healthy ;). bonbonsdegrandmere.be/...44-carabouillas.html



Along the way, you’ll pass Parc metro station, where "the murals were created in 1996 based on drawings by Morris to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Lucky Luke."



After that, all that’s left is to stroll along Quai Arthur Rimbaud by the Sambre. Rimbaud spent little time in Charleroi, but the city inspired three of his poems, including *Au Cabaret Vert*.



If you want to visit the Photography Museum, you’ll need to head a bit further out to Mont-sur-Marchienne.

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Masterpo · 2019-12-19 · Message 69 of 179

Rimbaud spent little time in Charleroi

A French Charleroi native becoming a Belgian Charleroi native—that’s original! 😛

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Moushika · 2019-12-19 · Message 70 of 179

Rimbaud spent little time in Charleroi

A French Carolorégien becoming a Belgian Carolorégien—that’s original 😛

???

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rimbaud#Premi%C3%A8re_fugue_%C3%A0_Paris_(ao%C3%BBt-septembre_1870)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rimbaud#Le_%C2%AB_Recueil_Demeny_%C2%BB_(les_Cahiers_de_Douai)

The first link talks about the context that brought him to Charleroi, and the second mentions his brief stay in the city.

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Masterpo · 2019-12-19 · Message 71 of 179

I don’t doubt he went to Charleroi—I just wanted to point out that since I was born in Charleville and lived in Charleroi, he was *twice* a *Carolo*, because *Carolo* is also the name for people from Charleroi...

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Moushika · 2019-12-19 · Message 72 of 179

Ah! I thought the people of Charleroi were the only ones called that.

I found this article, which explains that the people of Charleroi are called Carolorégiens, while those from Charleville were called Carolopolitains, and have since become Carolomacériens after Charleville merged with Mézières.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleville-M%C3%A9zi%C3%A8res

...I get why everyone just calls them *carolos* 😛

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B737 · 2019-12-19 · Message 73 of 179

I also find that Charleroi has its charm—a poignant charm, that of a city that was once prosperous and is now struggling with a certain hardship. I knew Charleroi about fifty years ago, back when industry thrived and operated at full capacity: coal mines, steelworks, ACEC, and so on. All of that is long gone, and while pollution is infinitely lower now, the wealth of the residents and the city has shrunk in the same proportions...

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Titouette · 2019-12-19 · Message 74 of 179

Hi there,

I’d visited the Photography Museum (which is worth the detour), but I’d "skipped" Charleroi, and your blog shows that some less touristy spots are also worth checking out. I’d also heard about an old mine where there was a very serious accident a few years ago that you can now visit (a Belgian woman whose father was a coal mine director told me about it). It’s near Charleroi, but I can’t remember the name.

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Brigitte42 · 2019-12-19 · Message 75 of 179

It's Marcinelle!

Happy holidays to everyone.

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B737 · 2019-12-19 · Message 76 of 179

Someone also told me about an old mine where there was a very serious accident a few years ago that you can visit (it was a Belgian lady whose father was a coal mine director who told me about it). It’s near Charleroi, but I can’t remember the name.

It’s the former Bois du Cazier mine in Marcinelle, the site of the terrible disaster on August 8, 1956, which claimed the lives of 262 miners. The accident kept the whole country on edge for two weeks until rescuers finally reached the site, and the famous words of the first rescuer who came back up from the depths: "Tutti cadaveri!" (there were many Italians among the miners). Anyone who lived through that era still remembers it, but I’ve noticed that younger people have completely forgotten this story—they really should visit the museum on the site of the former mine...

fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_du_Cazier www.rtbf.be/...262-morts?id=9370183 http://www.leboisducazier.be/

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An5 · 2019-12-19 · Message 77 of 179

Someone also told me about an old mine where there was a very serious accident a few years ago that you can visit (it was a Belgian woman whose father was a coal mine director who told me about it). It’s near Charleroi, but I can’t remember the name.

It’s the former Bois du Cazier mine in Marcinelle, the site of the infamous disaster on August 8, 1956. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_du_Cazier

Yes, visiting a mine to remember the working conditions of those men and women when you’re in this part of Belgium is really enriching—especially with kids. There’s also Blegny near Liège. A great experience. It’s sad to see these once-thriving industrial cities fallen into hardship. Tourism isn’t easy there due to lack of visibility, yet Mouchika makes us want to get lost in Charleroi.

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Titouette · 2019-12-19 · Message 78 of 179

Hello,

Yes, that’s right—the woman who told me about it spoke with a lot of emotion (since she was the daughter of a coal mine director, they’d given her a tour of the museum for her birthday). I’d never heard of it before. In Liège, I also met the son of an Italian miner.

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Moushika · 2019-12-19 · Message 79 of 179

When I was a kid, my parents told me about the Bois du Cazier several times, and I remember attending a commemoration with them. I’m thinking of visiting the Bois du Cazier soon too. Thanks for the links—they give the opening hours and access conditions.

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Moushika · 2019-12-19 · Message 80 of 179

....and thanks to everyone for your reactions. I see that Charleroi doesn’t leave anyone indifferent.

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