18 days of bliss in Morocco! (page 4 of 7)

Hey Daniel,

But unfortunately for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!!🤪

. for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!

Hi Diamina, I thought Martinique was a French department, so I must have been wrong 😉😉😉

Oh, you tease!! 😏

Did you know that your country code in France is 33 for international calls, and for us it’s 596, while for Guadeloupe it’s 590…? Did you know that on all country listings, France, Martinique, Guiana, Guadeloupe, and Réunion appear alongside the United States, Morocco, and others?😏

🙂🙂🙂 Even on VF: destination France... no Martinique, no New Caledonia, no French Guiana, and more 😉 But I didn’t know about the dialing code trick. VF is a great tool for sharing knowledge. 😎 For the New Year, I’m sending you this postcard from Andalusia (near Jaén). Wishing you lots of travels in 2020.

Not on VF, but check out a car rental site, for example, or to get the ESTA, ... So cute, those four-legged horned creatures... what are they?

Lots of trips planned for 2020.

Thanks. 😏 Wishing you lots of trips in 2020 too.

These are hinds (female deer) or young stags. You can tell them apart from roe deer (which have been decimated by disease in the region) by the fact they have a tail.

Hey Daniel,

But unfortunately for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!!🤪

I totally get it. South America sounds amazing, but it's not exactly around the corner. So, I'm treating myself to Morocco. And it's really not a punishment at all.

These are does (female deer) or young deer. They’re distinguished from roe deer (decimated by disease in the region) by the fact they have a tail.

Hi Hannah,

The day you find does with antlers, let me know! 😏 Young deer (daguet) either, since they’re not cervids but caprids.

They’re mountain goats.

Hi there,

I can't post the photo of the roe deer (it's too small for the Travel Journal format)—what a shame, you would've loved seeing one. I admit I messed up with the doe 😉 The only goats in these mountains are the Iberian ones, stunning with their big, curved horns—that’s why I went for the roe deer instead. There aren’t many roe deer left; they were wiped out by an epidemic after fallow deer (carriers of a virus) were introduced at the start of the last century. Thanks for the correction about the does 😎😎😎

I promise you, those aren’t roe deer fawns. ;)

Your photo is definitely of goats, no doubt about it.

Here’s a mountain goat in Andalusia: https://www.ecotintas.com/naturaleza/62259/Andalucia-Analizan-enfermedades-poblaciones-cabra-montes-jabali-Sierra-Nevada

And here’s a young roe deer (a fawn): https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEU_frFR850FR850&biw=1920&bih=920&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=H4YkXreyMLTCxgObn46IBA&q=daguet+jeune+cerf+&oq=daguet+jeune+cerf+&gs_l=img.3..0i30.11957.12104..12290...0.0..0.101.289.2j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.u8YIzOuGRsM&ved=0ahUKEwj3vcr8jJDnAhU0oXEKHZuPA0EQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=y3JHU-Zj9pOd0M:

The two animals have nothing in common—size, eye shape (iris), etc.

A link to a fallow deer with a photo.

https://chasse-les-cerfs.skyrock.com/photo.html?id_article=2350652911&id_article_media=-1

The article on the Spanish ibex is illustrated by a young individual that does indeed look like mine. Thanks for your explanations—my fallow deer has small antlers. As for the eyes... I didn’t get a close look ;) The issue is that the deer were behind the ones I photographed, which might explain the confusion. I’ve seen and photographed dozens of Spanish ibex over thirty years in the Cazorla sierras, so I’d recognize one anywhere by its impressive, slightly twisted horns. (Photo from Grazalema this summer)

I’ve been following your discussion with interest, but I wouldn’t be able to pick a side for you.

I could totally be wrong, Daniel, but seeing those little creatures at dusk is something I really enjoy in Andalusia. If a third person wants to settle this for us, I’d be happy—even if I’m the one who’s wrong.

Well, you're mistaken lol I thought you'd admitted they were goats because they are—trust me.

OK, if you say so 😉 Next time I’ll ask them for their IDs 😎

Sorry, but I don’t know anything about it either!

Same here! 😊

Oh yeah, I’m totally clueless in this area. And I thought I could trust Hannah... Well, no way! Not even close!

Hello,

I finally got confirmation from an expert. They’re not goats but ibexes. The photo shows a female with a young one.

Spanish ibex – (Capra pyrenaica) https://www.manimalworld.net/pages/bovidae/bouquetin-d-espagne.html

Hello,

It’s a young Iberian ibex or *Capra pyrenaica*. Thanks, Google!

Oops, I didn’t see the previous post 🤪