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Off to explore Jordan!

Bibouns51 · 2020-04-11 · Message 61 of 228

Seeing everything there is to see and all those kilometers to cover, I really don’t see how anyone could be satisfied with just one day there!

I think 90% of tourists stop at the Treasury, which is right after the Siq. It’s the iconic temple and what people come for! Yeah, I know it’s silly, but at least afterward, you’ve got the rest of the visit to yourself

That’s what shocked me, and it’s what I was saying on my first day here: Most people only come for the day (cruise ship or organized tour from Egypt or Israel). They walk through the Siq (on foot or by carriage), see the Treasury, and leave without even realizing what they’ve missed. And when they get back, they say, "Yeah, I’ve done Petra..." Ugh...

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Rjulie95 · 2020-04-11 · Message 62 of 228

Today, it's 50 for one day (*), 55 for two, and 60 JD for 3 days. But such a wonder at this price is a steal. Plus, it's even cheaper with the Jordan Pass.

The Jordan Pass gives you 3-day access to Petra !

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 63 of 228

The Jordan Pass gives you 3-day access to Petra!

No, not exactly. You pay for the Jordan Pass based on the number of days at Petra. 1 day: 99 JOD 2 days: 106 JOD 3 days: 113 JOD

Note that they charge 7 JOD for an extra day, even though it normally costs only 5 JOD...

Anyway, the Jordan Pass is barely more expensive than the visa and Petra entry. It pays off if you visit Jerash, for example. Plus, it saves you from exchanging money at the airport.

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 64 of 228

Which way did you go out?

Well, I always went out through the Siq :P But there’s another exit I’d noted, described in a VF travel journal. I’ll try to find it again.

Also interesting, your route to see the Treasury from another angle... Do you have a photo?

I didn’t post it so I wouldn’t clutter your journal. Here’s what it looks like:

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Swimmer · 2020-04-11 · Message 65 of 228

Today, it's 50 for one day (*), 55 for two, and 60 JD for 3 days. But such a wonder at this price is a steal. Plus, it's even cheaper with the Jordan Pass.

Thanks for the updated rates. 😉 As I was saying, it's all relative—if you compare those 60 JD for 3 days to the $50 you have to shell out for a rushed 30 minutes in one of Antelope Canyon's canyons (Page, USA), it *is* a steal, just like you said!

If you're spending 3 days there, you’ll need to stay nearby. Is there enough accommodation in the area?

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Bibouns51 · 2020-04-11 · Message 66 of 228

Today, it's 50 JD for one day (*), 55 JD for two, and 60 JD for 3 days. But such a wonder at this price is a steal. Plus, it's even cheaper with the Jordan Pass.

Thanks for the updated rates. 😉 As I was saying, it's all relative—if you compare those 60 JD for 3 days to the $50 you have to shell out for a rushed 30 minutes in one of Antelope Canyon's slots (Page, USA), it *is* a steal, just like you said!

If you're spending 3 days there, you’ll need to stay somewhere nearby. Is there enough accommodation in the area?

The Seven Wonders Bedouin Camp where we spent our first night near Petra was really great! For Antelope Canyon, I’m glad I did it... before... 😏

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Swimmer · 2020-04-11 · Message 67 of 228

Actually, I usually do it this way for my trips...

And it seems to work out pretty well! My only hesitation with this approach is worrying about wasting time during the day looking for a place to sleep that night.

See you tonight Pascal for the Wadi Rum!

Wouldn’t miss it for the world! 😉

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 68 of 228

If you're spending 3 days there, you’ll want to stay not too far away. Is the accommodation supply in the area sufficient?

Of course. There are two spots for all budgets—one at the entrance to the site (there’s even a Mövenpick) and another in the village of Wadi Musa (there’s even a Hyatt).

I was there in March 2011, as a replacement for Japan (you can easily guess why...). The options were already plentiful back then. I imagine they’ve only increased since.

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Xeta · 2020-04-11 · Message 69 of 228



Awesome, boss!!

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 70 of 228

Thanks! 😎 Photo taken lying flat on my stomach, needless to say...

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Xeta · 2020-04-11 · Message 71 of 228

Thanks 😎 Photo taken lying flat on my stomach, needless to say...

Needless to say 😎 I’ll let my husband take this photo if I can convince him to go to Jordan 🙂

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Swimmer · 2020-04-11 · Message 72 of 228

There are two spots for all budgets, at the entrance to the site (there’s even a Movenpick) and in the village of Wadi Musa (there’s even a Hyatt).

There’s plenty to do, thanks for the details! Anyway, given the crowds, I guess it’s best to book...

I was there in March 2011, instead of Japan (you can easily guess why...).

No kidding! 😕 Is Japan on the agenda this year, or is it a no-go?

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 73 of 228

I was thinking of going in September (I usually book a month or two in advance), but it’s not ideal. I’ve always wanted to go in February, when it’s covered in snow. This’ll be the perfect opportunity...

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Bibouns51 · 2020-04-11 · Message 74 of 228

October 27th - Are there toilets in Wadi Rum?

The night could’ve been perfect if our buddy Ali the muezzin hadn’t belted out his prayers at five in the morning through the neighborhood mosque’s loudspeaker. You better believe it—wakes you up faster than a cold shower! If I run into that guy... he’s gonna get his goatee pulled! Anyway, it’s six o’clock now, I open one eye… Six-thirty, I open the second… At this rate, it’ll take me all morning just to shower and get dressed… except today, no time for lazing around—we’re hitting the road! On the list of must-see spots in Jordan, you’ve probably already heard of Petra… Check! Now, does Wadi Rum ring a bell? No? Well, perfect—because that’s where we’re headed today! After one last hot shower (who knows when the next one will be?) and a hearty breakfast, we rev up our mechanical thunder and hit the road toward the mountainous desert of Wadi Rum. We get there in an hour and a half, despite a pit stop at the gas station, a police checkpoint, a herd of suicidal goats, some steep climbs in first gear… and, of course, the mandatory pee break. Yeah, remember—I’ve got three ladies in the Mitsubishi who need to go!

When we arrive at the Wadi Rum visitor center, another surprise: the price magically jumped from two dinars (as listed in the guidebooks) to five dinars per person. This tiny 150% hike apparently took effect on September 1st… Of course, it’s totally justified! I mean, who wouldn’t pay to enter a desert? Just think of the cost of hauling all that sand here! Anyway, moving on… Twenty dinars lighter, we’re off for two days with our feet and tires in the sand! And there, our tiny caravan suddenly fell silent, humbled by the sheer grandeur of the landscape… Look at me, showing off! But you know me too well—you guessed it… That’s not my line. It’s from that English guy, Lawrence of Arabia, who wrote a book describing the place. There’s even a movie about his life—check it out, it’s set right here in Wadi Rum!

We pass the Seven Pillars of Wisdom mountain. One, two, three, four, five… six rock spires! Where’s the seventh? Then we arrive at the village of Rum, where we’ve got a meet-up with the Jordantracks agency for a day trip. And there you go, I can already hear you laughing: *‘Oh, the noobs! They’re playing backpackers but still need a guide!’* Stop laughing and listen: Actually, we don’t really care about the guide. What we need is his 4x4 to take us south toward the Saudi Arabian border. I promise, tomorrow we’ll do everything on foot and solo! But hold on, don’t rush me—I’ll tell you what I thought of this agency later. For now, I’ve got other things to do, like loading our bags into the beat-up 4x4 that’ll be our desert chariot until tonight. Our guide, who looks newer than the car, is the one driving it! 438,192 kilometers on the odometer—anyone got a higher number? This thing is stripped of everything, including comfort! No handbrake, busted seats, windows that won’t roll up, a broken side mirror… But hey, the dashboard’s covered in sheepskin—that’s a sure sign the vehicle’s well-maintained! We wanted authenticity, and we got it! To wrap up introductions, our guide’s name is Awad, and he’s twenty-three. Alright, now that everyone’s met, let’s go—follow our 4x4 tracks and don’t dawdle, we’re not here to sunbathe!

Heading due south to Jabal Burdah, the mountain we’re climbing this morning! Before we get there, we’ve got an hour of bumpy roads while admiring landscapes that make you want to stretch your legs. Once we arrive, we fill our water bottles, limber up, and off we go! The climb takes about forty-five minutes. Nothing too tough—except for Sandrine, who’ll complain at every little challenge: *‘This is too hard! And the snow’s too soooft!’* But damn, the mountain is beautiful… How can landscapes this grand even exist? My jaw’s practically on the ground, mouth wide open—I can’t even close it. Check out the photos! Go on, feast your eyes—my treat!









On top of the view, the cherry on top is the natural arch perched at the summit… As you can guess, walking across it didn’t cross Sandrine’s mind. Me? I’m charging ahead, joined by Chloé and Muriel! No fear! Well… okay, maybe a *little* fear. Suddenly, we’re not so cocky anymore! Adrenaline pumping like crazy… Perched on my arch, I take the opportunity to show off and try to make Sandrine sick—until Awad one-ups me by crossing it… on his hands. *‘Oh, look at him showing off!’* Jordan, one—France, zero…







Alright, time to head back down? Shhh… Quiet, and just look. We sit for long minutes, soaking in the view in silence. Pure zen… The organized chaos of our French lives feels a million miles away. Speaking of which, there aren’t many places left where you can sit and hear *nothing*—no cars, no construction, no scooters, not even a Céline Dion song to ruin the moment. That’s one of the things I loved most about this desert… Not the lack of Céline Dion (though that’s a plus), but the lack of noise! Pay attention! And to think, back in France right now, there’s a general strike! I can just picture you in line, trying to scrounge up a drop of fuel… Meanwhile, we’ve got fuel in our legs! So, the descent? A piece of cake… despite the sweat pouring like a pressure washer and the sun cooking an egg in two seconds flat!

Speaking of cooking an egg… isn’t it time to shove some food down our throats? Awad’s got it all planned! He finds us a shady spot, lays out a tablecloth, and pulls out the lunch baskets. The only problem? He invited *every fly in Wadi Rum* to the table! And not just any flies—*organized* flies! While three-quarters are chowing down on your meal, the others are distracting you by flying up your nose or into your ears. You don’t need to experience it yourself to know it’s *super* annoying, to put it politely! Anyway, now that our bellies are full, where to next? Apparently, nowhere—Awad’s setting up his mattress and taking a nap. Wake-up call: Three o’clock! How can he even close his eyes with a view like this around us? It’s a *guaranteed* eye-opener! As for me, no way I’m napping and risking some weird dream… My dream’s right here, in front of me, and I plan to enjoy every second. Camera in hand, I head straight for a rock formation, hoping to soak up panoramas until I’m sick of them. Memories filling my head, pixels filling my memory card… Detox’s gonna be rough when we get back to France!





Before I start thinking about going home, I’d love to keep wandering this patch of dried-up earth, because right now, I’m like a dog chasing its tail—I’m going in circles! *‘Awad, it’s time! Awad! Awaaad?’* It took a quarter-hour of door-slamming and fake coughing to finally drag him out of his beauty sleep…

On the agenda: red dune, Khazali Canyon, Barragh Canyon, Nabatean inscriptions at Al Faishiyya… Sounds exciting, right? Well, in the end… *nothing*! And when I say nothing, I mean *zilch*! Nada! Awad clearly had other plans under his turban and couldn’t care less about what I’d arranged with the agency. What a mess! Don’t get this confused with *‘party in my pants’*—totally different! And as if by coincidence, we followed the same route as two other guides he’s thick as thieves with… and socks. That’s too much—Awad gets a yellow card! Next time, it’s red, and he’s out! Alright, I’ll stop complaining, even though I’m French and *totally* have the right. But all this to say my opinion of Jordantracks—or rather, our guide—is mixed. Don’t worry, though, we didn’t just stand there like scarecrows! First stop in the middle of nowhere… Awad joins his buddies for a game of soccer. And us? Well, if we’re doing nothing, might as well show them how a Frenchman can kick a ball! Jordan, one—France, one…



The rest of the afternoon? Canyons that were *meh*, tea breaks, a tiny arch (way less impressive than this morning’s), more tea, and a sunset that won’t go down as the best I’ve ever captured. Long story short, I won’t bore you with the details of our afternoon adventures. Lack of inspiration? Temporary fatigue? Maybe it’s just because we weren’t blown away by what Awad showed us. By the way, if you think I’m getting jaded and not gushing over stunning sites anymore, feel free to give me a good smack to bring me back to reality…













More seriously, tomorrow we’re switching to solo mode. No more relying on Jamal, Youssouf, or Hamed (aka Pierre, Paul, Jacques). Tomorrow, *I’m* in charge of the program! So long, goofing off, tea time, and little naps! But hey! Don’t go anywhere, Wadi Rum—I’m not done with you yet!



For now, we’re at the Jordantracks Bedouin camp, where we’ll spend the night in Bedouin tents lined up at the foot of a cliff. Around us, a few camels are twiddling their thumbs… Speaking of which, in Wadi Rum, camels are mostly there to give tourists rides. For heavy lifting, the Bedouins use another beast they call a *Patrol*. Don’t bother looking it up in animal encyclopedias—it’s a 4x4! Anyway, back to the camp: everything’s set up to make us spoiled Westerners feel a little at home, except for the camels—you don’t see those roaming the streets of the Ardennes! They’ve even managed to rig up showers and toilets in the middle of the desert! For the record (because I *love* anecdotes), special mention goes to Kazim, the mastermind behind the toilet facilities. Since the showers and toilets are backed against the mountain, he simply cut large openings in the doors of each stall to let in light. You had to think of it! And it’s a great way to bond with other campers. You don’t look at Robert the same way after seeing his face mid-effort… or Monique after watching her struggle to do her business without touching the toilet. No, seriously, at first I thought it was a joke or a hidden camera. I kept waiting for Marcel Béliveau to pop out of a dark corner dressed as a Jordanian, yelling *‘Surprise surprise!!’*… But nope, nothing. As for me, I thanked the gods of constipation and only attempted the experience the next morning, when everyone was still asleep. You can never be too careful during those *deep-thought* moments… And even then, still no sign of Béliveau’s mustache! To be continued…





I don’t know about you, but all this has made me hungry! Four plates of *maglouba* later, my stomach’s waving the white flag. As for the vibe, it’s a bit *touristy*. Awad plays the oud while the other guides start dancing. Me? I’m not exactly in the mood for a wild night. Just food, a quick smoke, and off to bed—while telling you that one day, I heard on the radio that the odds of visiting Jordan are one in ten million. Just imagine some guy somewhere busting his butt for months with all sorts of equipment to come to that conclusion… Well, okay! Let’s say that despite those odds, it happens to you. And while you’re wandering around, you might just stumble upon Wadi Rum! Sure, after reading my travel journal, you’ll probably be dying to come to this desert. But then you’ve still got to pick a camp! And let’s be honest, there are *plenty* around here. But fine, let’s say you choose the same one as me. The ultimate twist? You’d have to be there on a day when you *really* need to go! And if by some miracle all that happens, think of me when you’re sitting on the throne, eyes glued to the little window cut into the door, waiting for Marcel Béliveau to finally show his face… Anyway, goodnight, folks, and hello, sandman! By the way, will we count you in tomorrow? Either way, tomorrow’s another adventure…

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Ticapi · 2020-04-11 · Message 75 of 228

Hi Frank,

I’ll be following this travel journal with pleasure. Jordan is on our list of plans—just a matter of when we can make it there.

Carmen

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Bibouns51 · 2020-04-11 · Message 76 of 228

Hi Frank,

I’ll be following this travel journal with pleasure. Jordan is part of our plans—we just need to figure out when we can go.

Carmen

Hello Carmen, and welcome to this travel journal! Jordan is a stunning country that’s well worth exploring... You won’t regret it when the time comes! Happy reading! Franck

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Swimmer · 2020-04-11 · Message 77 of 228

You can go there with your eyes closed!

It’d be a bit of a shame, though—there are still some cool things to see according to your travel journal. Okay, I’ll butt out... 😏

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Xeta · 2020-04-11 · Message 78 of 228

The colors in Wadi Rum are incredible! What amazing light!

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Swimmer · 2020-04-11 · Message 79 of 228

By the way, if you get the impression I’m becoming jaded by what I see and no longer marvel at magnificent sites, you have my permission to give me a good slap to bring me back to reality...

If I may, I’ll do just that—wow, it’s stunning!!! 😮

I had a good laugh reading your trip report today! 😏

What’s the cost of this little high-end 4x4 tour with a guide who does whatever he wants? [;]

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Masterpo · 2020-04-11 · Message 80 of 228

We're at the Jordantracks Bedouin camp where we're spending the night in Bedouin tents arranged in a row at the foot of a cliff.

JordanTracks... Back in the day, it was *the* reference on VF. I went through them too.

I kept expecting Marcel Béliveau dressed as a Jordanian to pop out from a dark corner yelling "Surprise surprise!!"...

Good thing you didn’t see him pop out—he’d already passed away by the time you were in Jordan!



Yep, that’s the same camp. I remember stepping out around 5 a.m. in the near-dark to wait for sunrise and suddenly feeling 20 kg land on my back without knowing where it came from. It was the camp dog!

As for the vibe, it feels a bit "touristy." Awad plays the oud while the other guides start dancing.

Dinner under the big tent? The oud, the dancers—same thing. Maybe Awad was there...

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