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JeffPrX · 2018-09-28 · Message 81 of 140

Thanks Julien for your message. I’ll post tonight the next day: Mesa Arch and hot-air balloon at sunrise over Arches.

See you soon, C&JF

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Monike1 · 2018-09-28 · Message 82 of 140

Day 14: Sunday, July 8. Canyon -> Lamar Valley -> Canyon (125 km)

THE bear day! The nights are much better here. We have breakfast outside in the cool air, and after the usual dump, we leave around 8:15 AM for the Canyon Visitor Center, which focuses on volcanism, and the shops. A quick detour takes us to Artist Point, THE viewpoint over the canyon. It’s stunning and very colorful, with a rainbow at the base of the waterfall. The lighting is perfect. The kids draw in their ranger journals. In 2014, we didn’t have time to go to this overlook—now we’ve done it! No regrets, it’s worth the visit and easy to access! Lots of people, but no problem parking. There were quite a few areas closed for construction in the Canyon zone. We hit the road for Lamar Valley, and after Mount Washburn, there are bears—and traffic jams! In less than two hours, we spot no fewer than six bears, much to the delight of kids and adults alike. Our first stop is a rushed one (the second RV couldn’t park, and the kids were really disappointed) for a mother bear and her two cubs in a tree. For the mom, we only catch a glimpse of fur, but we can see the ears of the two cubs higher up in the tree. The people by the road are super friendly, pointing out where to look or lending their binoculars. The ranger on-site leaves, and we find her a little further on: a bear is settled on a rock by the stream below the road. There’s nowhere to stop on this narrow stretch of road, so she explains to each vehicle what to look for and counts five seconds for photos—then it’s time to move on to make room for the next one. We got a good look—it looked like a rug thrown on the rock! A few kilometers later, a bear wanders along the hillside, but by the time JF gets down with his camera, the bear’s gone! Luckily, his brother is right behind to pick him up. After the Tower Junction, a bear is resting at the foot of a tree. We manage to park both RVs not too far away to go see it. Our next goal is the short Slough Creek trail. A nice, smooth road takes us there, and we spot a pronghorn that’s not too shy. We have a picnic first, then head out around 2:15 PM for the hike. We want to reach the river and then come back. It climbs quite a bit, it’s very flowery, and the prairie dogs are everywhere—they’re fun to watch. But the place is swarming with Yellowstone mosquitoes: a particularly voracious and social breed! When you kill one, 300 show up for the funeral!! So we turn back before even catching a glimpse of the river! Around 4 PM, we head back through Lamar Valley. There are huge herds of bison and a few pronghorns. It’s really beautiful. We return to the Canyon campground without seeing a single bear by the road. JF is feverish, and Christophe takes care of the barbecue. It seems like there are fewer mosquitoes.

Lesson of the day: mosquitoes are relentless!

The mosquitoes must be more present in July than in September because we didn’t see any during our trip. Great travel journal, what a wonderful family trip! 🙂

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JeffPrX · 2018-09-28 · Message 83 of 140

Day 20: Saturday, July 14. Moab -> Canyonlands -> Dead Horse (211 km)

Everyone’s up at 4:45 AM since the hot-air balloon meet-up, scheduled for 5:45 AM, is about fifteen kilometers outside Moab. The campground is super quiet, and we dump the tanks by headlamp! When we arrive at Archview Campground (the meet-up spot), the pickup is already waiting, and we enjoy the start of sunrise behind Arches NP.

Then the seniors board the balloon, and the rest of the family splits up: Christophe & Co head for a mega breakfast at Denny’s in Moab, while JF & Co rush to Canyonlands NP. The goal is to reach Mesa Arch for sunrise. Even though we’re a bit late, the site is still stunning, and there are way fewer people (except for two guys posing like top models!). The orange lighting on the arch lasts a long time, and we soak it up for a good half-hour. Afterward, a stop at the Visitor Center lets us grab three junior ranger booklets—the ranger isn’t exactly cheerful.

We all meet up again around 9 AM to pick up Papoune and Mamoune. They’re thrilled with their flight: flying over Arches at sunrise, the peacefulness of the ride, and champagne on landing!

Back toward Canyonlands, the drive is pleasant. Our first stop is for the view of Shafer Trail—a jaw-dropping and tempting road (but we’re in an RV!!!).

Photo limit of 20 reached! More to come. C&JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-09-28 · Message 84 of 140

Day 20.2: Saturday, July 14. Moab -> Canyonlands -> Dead Horse (211 km)

Continuing the Shafer Trail: Then, we enjoy the view of the Green River (at Green River Overlook), which we had been near several days earlier.



At Grand View Point, we set off, a bit by chance and without knowing how far it was, on a pretty little trail along the rim. But the sky clears up, and it starts getting really hot. Not everyone brought a hat or water—we’d just gotten out of the RVs for the viewpoint! To our great regret, we wisely turn back. Later, checking Google Maps, we realize we stopped less than 100 meters from the end! What a shame for the view—lack of preparation…



On our way back, we stop at the White Rim picnic area to have lunch under one of the shelters. The kids fill out their booklets and tackle one of the three requested activities separately—probably the hardest one: staying still for 10 minutes in nature! At the Visitor Center, a friendlier ranger gives them badges.

At the entrance to Dead Horse State Park, we don’t pay because we have our campsite reservations. We go admire the breathtaking view at the end of the park. It’s truly extraordinary! We watch the rain showers move across the Moab area in the distance. The kids are motivated, and we pick up new booklets to fill out at the Visitor Center—just in time, as it was closing in 5 minutes. Once settled at the campsite, we pull out the dictionary to study!

The storm rumbles and circles around us—it’s probably hitting Moab again. A quick shower with big raindrops cools the atmosphere a bit. After a round of showers, we have dinner under the shelter, which has a built-in cupboard. Christelle spots a "coyote," more likely a kit fox, but no one believes her… though she’s the only one drinking orange juice! There’s no starry sky tonight, just a tiny sunset between two bands of clouds.

Lesson of the day: A fantastic day, whether it was Canyonlands, Dead Horse State Park, or the hot-air balloon.

See you for the next update! Christelle and JF

Kayenta Campground, booked and paid 4 months in advance on ReserveAmerica, with restrooms and drinking water, a table with shelter, electrical hookup, and a dump station at the exit (but no water fill-up). Spaced-out sites with a bit of vegetation. There were still spots available when we arrived because the campground expanded from 21 to 64 sites since our booking! And yet, I sweated to get this spot: there were only 3 available that fit our RV size for our date (since some sites are booked for multiple days, of course), and on top of that, the Americans switched to daylight saving time before we did! When I logged on 15 minutes early but an hour too late, only 2 spots were left—and they were ours!!!


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JeffPrX · 2018-09-28 · Message 85 of 140

Thanks Monique for your message! Sure enough, back in 2014, we were in YNP in early September and didn’t see a single mosquito either!!!

But this year... Our daughter ended up with 52 bites!!!

JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-01 · Message 86 of 140

J21: Sunday, July 15. Dead Horse -> Goosenecks -> Monument Valley (308 km)

The weather is overcast this morning. We leave before 9 a.m. to stop by the dump and the visitor center. The kids turn in their booklets and take their oath with the ranger’s Google Translate! Unfortunately, there are no more badges left (and it’s still early in the season!), so they’re pretty disappointed. We buy them the park’s pin instead. On the way through Moab, we fill up on gas again and then head down to Bluff via a nice road: long straight stretches through arid plains dotted with a few badlands... In Bluff, we visit the reconstructed fort. There are some cool reenactments and audio guides in French (though they’re obviously a bit biased in favor of the Mormons). Louenn tries his hand at panning for gold, and the kids have a lasso-throwing contest!



We decide to make a little detour to Goosenecks State Park. At the entrance, the poor ranger alone in his booth under the scorching sun makes us feel bad for him. It’s very desert-like, small, but the view is spectacular. The San Juan River flows red at the bottom. Luckily, the picnic tables let us eat lunch in the shade. France won the World Cup, and we toast with water since we’re out of beer! After this lunch break, we speed up a bit to get to Monument Valley: no stops and no photos at mile 13, also known as the Forrest Gump point. We have a meet-up for a "bumpy ride" tour (Dineh BeKeyah tours). We go to the View Hotel lobby—it’s really nice, as described—but they send us farther away without much explanation. We try the Visitor Center, which sends us back outside. The departure time is approaching, and we finally spot a vehicle parked below and a Navajo man waiting for us at the hotel entrance. We board and have plenty of space. The sky is pretty overcast. We make several classic photo stops. The guide shares the names of the rock formations and some info about Navajo life. The start of the trail has been graveled, but it’s still bumpy, and Christophe loses his cap. We hope to find it on the way back. In the private section, the route lets us admire petroglyphs, slide down a sand dune, and lie under the Big Hogan.



20-photo limit reached! More to come Christelle and JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-01 · Message 87 of 140

J21.2: Sunday, July 15. Monument Valley

Suddenly, the wind picks up and a storm approaches. We see the rain coming in the distance, and on the way back, we witness a flash flood. We watch the water rushing onto the track before it hits us. Then, very quickly, the track turns into a river, with large rocks washing up in the middle. There’s no way we’re finding that cap again! We’re soaked to our underwear!!! Our guide finally hands us ponchos through his window—we struggle to put them on, and there are only 6 for the 9 of us! In the end, it’s a good laugh, singing "We Are the Champions." The tourists in rental cars aren’t laughing as much… By the end, the sun peeks out and treats us to rainbows over the mesas. It’s not cold at all, and we dry off quickly. We stop by the gift shop for a few souvenirs, then settle in at the campsite. Here, the early birds get the best views, but we’re a bit late… Unfortunately, the Navajos don’t seem to care about hiding the restrooms or trash area in the background! We enjoy a small sunset—the rocks briefly glow behind us: we’ve got front-row seats in our RV!! There are a few stars tonight, but too much light pollution. Annwen and Louenn pack their bags to head to the Grand Canyon tomorrow with their cousin.

Lesson of the day: We now understand the potential danger of a flash flood… The best campsite with an unbeatable view of the mesas.

See you for the next update! Christelle and JF

Camping The View, booked in advance on their website but paid on-site. Toilets and showers are a bit limited in number but clean and functional. Drinking water is available at the welcome area, but no dump station or water fill-up. Picnic tables without shelter, no barbecue. Tents are set up on lower spots in the dunes.

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Disneydiddl · 2018-10-04 · Message 88 of 140

Hi Jean-François and Christelle, I’m happily reliving parts of the same route we took all the way to Moab. What an adventure on Highway 128 (a road I love!). That photo of the storm in the distance is stunning. And you found the hike to Corona Arch easy… well, not us (that gives you an idea of our hiking level 😉) Oh yes, I know *Desert Solitaire*—what a great book. I read it before my first trip out West, and I think I should reread it now that I’ve seen some of the places it describes. Wow! Your Monument Valley photos are amazing! You got it all: beautiful white clouds, a storm, and then a gorgeous rainbow. What more could you ask for? It’s magical there.

Thanks for sharing. Françoise.

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-04 · Message 89 of 140

Thanks Françoise,

Your Monument Valley photos are stunning! You got everything: beautiful white clouds, a storm, and then a gorgeous rainbow. What more could you ask for? It’s magical out there.

Yes, this year we had all the lighting! It’s such a fabulous place—I’d happily go back again: Mystery Valley or just the track with our car (never done that without a bumpy ride!).

I’ll post the next day tonight: from Monument Valley to Lee’s Ferry for us, and Monument Valley to the Grand Canyon for my brother with our kids.

Have a great evening, JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-04 · Message 90 of 140

Day 22: Monday, July 16. Monument Valley -> Betatakin -> Lee’s Ferry (307 km) or Grand Canyon

Sunrise was scheduled for 6:15 AM, everyone was up, but unfortunately, the sky was very overcast. Like last night, the sun made a couple of brief appearances between cloud bands, coloring the mesas.

After breakfast, the C25 headed toward the Grand Canyon. Christelle and JF did the Wildcat Trail, a 6 km hike with a tiring return through the sand. Luckily, the sun was still hidden! Aside from the last hundred meters, the walk was very easy and gave that sense of solitude every aspiring cowboy dreams of! We set off again, turning our watches back an hour. We took a detour to Navajo National Monument to see the Betatakin ruins. The setting was lovely, there weren’t many people, and it smelled of pine. The 2 km Sandal Trail was easy and worth the detour, especially if Mesa Verde isn’t on the itinerary. We bought some Native American jewelry at the shop next to the Visitor Center—married for 18 years, it was their turquoise anniversary! We hit the road again for Page, where we had leftovers for lunch in the Walmart parking lot. We stocked up on jerky to bring back to France. Mamoune used up almost all our loose change under the amused gaze of other customers, with the cashier’s kindness. It was hot, and the sky looked threatening. After a bellyful of cherries, we filled up the tank, and Mamoune bought us ice cream. With full stomachs, we headed toward Lee’s Ferry, stopping at the Marble Canyon Bridge.



The campground was almost empty, and we picked the best spot possible: a well-sheltered table with a stunning view of the Colorado. We were at its confluence with the Paria River—upstream at the boat launch, the Colorado was crystal clear, and downstream, it took on the Paria’s reddish-ochre color. After making our reservation, we went to the dump station and then to the raft launch. This is where the Colorado River descent into the Grand Canyon starts. Several groups were preparing boats of all sizes. We stayed to watch, dreaming of that adventure while leaning comfortably against one of the shaded tables. The next day, we’d discover a warning that a black widow had made its nest under the table!

After returning to the campground, we treated ourselves to a long break in our chairs with drinks, the sound of the Colorado, the (dashed) hope of seeing rafts pass by, and the sunset over the yellow, pink, purple, and orange rocks of Marble Canyon. We quickly ate sandwiches for dinner, then took lukewarm showers before going to bed with the door open—but the night was very hot and windy. Thunder rumbled in the distance. In 2014, this spot had almost been the starting point of our 15-day road trip (travel journal here), and four years later, it almost marked the end of our journey. We’d done the beautiful Cathedral Wash hike here, and tomorrow morning, the challenging Spencer Trail was on the agenda. We love this isolated basin with its vibrant, varied colors, and for the record, this is where Edward Abbey’s novel The Monkey Wrench Gang begins. Just a heads-up—it gets *very* hot here.

Meanwhile, the rest of the family was camping at Mather Campground in the Grand Canyon...

Lesson of the day: The rangers’ station was closed and seemed abandoned for years, the tap water was lukewarm, the sunset was gorgeous facing the Colorado, and we felt like we were the only ones in the world.

See you for the next update! Christelle and JF

Lee’s Ferry Campground: "First come, first served," payment by envelope (rangers check later), toilets, drinking water, sheltered tables, dump station, and water fill-up a bit farther (there might even be a shower since the water is quite warm!).

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-05 · Message 91 of 140

Day 23: Tuesday, July 17Lee’s Ferry -> Las Vegas (439 km)

We got up around 6 AM—the sun was already out. We had breakfast and headed to the dock where the crews were getting ready. Papoune and Mamoune stayed to watch while Christelle and JF went to tackle the canyon wall.

We started the Spencer Trail at 7:15 AM, and it was a steep climb—luckily in the shade of the canyon wall.

It’s an old mule trail created to supply the ferry with coal. We couldn’t see where we were going at all—just up, with some really narrow sections. Finally, we spotted the end of the trail, ditched our backpacks, and reached the summit around 9 AM. The view was stunning: the Colorado River on one side (with the tiny dock far below) and a vast panorama of the Page area on the other, with more meanders of the Colorado. We descended in about 1 hour 15 minutes, moving as fast as we could since the sun was catching up. There were lots of lizards and rabbit droppings (what do they even eat out here?). This trail is pretty intense, and it’s strongly recommended to do it early in the morning—by 10 AM, the whole wall is in full sun, and temps must be around 35°C. A good pair of shoes, a hat, and water will definitely come in handy!!

Back at the campsite, we dipped our feet in the Colorado River—it was 8°C (that’s a shock!), then enjoyed our naturally lukewarm shower (no need to turn on the water heater!). It was 40°C inside the RV… The big rafts finally set off, and we saw the tour buses arrive from above. Other boats, in tourist-excursion mode, also came from the dam and unloaded their passengers into buses for the ride back. We stopped at the dump station to lighten our vehicle and started the drive back to Las Vegas via Route 89A. We crossed a huge desert plain, then climbed into the forest where we had lunch near Jacob Lake. It was cool up there. On Highway 15 before Las Vegas, there were 5 or 6 cars stopped on the side of the road with blown tires. It was 34°C inside the RV even with the AC on full blast in the cab! We finally arrived in LV around 5 PM, where we’d booked a night at the "camping" at Circus Circus. It was a far cry from the remote nature campsites we’d stayed at over the past few days—this was a massive parking lot right in the middle of the towers near the Strip, and it was an oven! We turned on the air conditioning. The C25, coming from the Grand Canyon, wasn’t there yet… and we had a surprise planned with the seniors at 7 PM… Around 6 PM, after some trouble finding the campsite, Christophe, Delphine, and all the kids arrived. We were finally all together and went for a quick dip in the lukewarm pool of the "parking lot" (uh… campsite!). At 7 PM, we left to wait for the bus to tour the Strip… and a black 12-seater limousine pulled up, much to the kids’ amazement. Off we went for a 2-hour tour of the Strip, out of this world, with a stop at the famous Welcome sign (too long a line), a drive through Fremont, the light shows, champagne (screw-top, of course), and more. We stayed cool and enjoyed the lights. Back at the campsite, we scarfed down some sandwiches. We left the AC running all night, but it was super loud.

Lesson of the day: The best part was the Spencer Trail with its breathtaking 360° views, and the limo ride was amazing!

See you for the next update! Christelle and JF

Circus Circus Hotel & Casino Camping: Book 2 months in advance online, full hook-up, pool. It’s just a parking lot, not too far from the Strip, but it’s unbearably hot—plus, there are no picnic tables or barbecues! It’s really just a place to crash for the night…

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Orionide · 2018-10-06 · Message 92 of 140

Hi JF and/or Christelle 😉

So nice to read this travel journal—what memories for these three generations of travelers 😉. And the photos are gorgeous, they don’t take away from the charm at all. Well done! !

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Marati · 2018-10-06 · Message 93 of 140

The photos of Monument Valley and the Spencer Trail are really beautiful... Thanks for sharing! 🙂

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Sbrcoach · 2018-10-07 · Message 94 of 140

You didn’t go just a few hundred meters farther along the Spencer Trail plateau—there were some great views on the other side of the Colorado River’s meanders too!

And for those with time, there’s also the CATHEDRAL WASH Trail on the way back (nice to do without anyone else around for a picnic with your feet in the water).

Great photos, indeed!

Thanks! 😏

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PapJ59 · 2018-10-07 · Message 95 of 140

Hello,

I’ve got two hidden gems that don’t get much attention—and rarely any photos: the Wildcat Trail in MV and the Spencer Trail at Lees Ferry.

Great idea!

Awesome trip and a really well-done recap...

Jean.

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Ducono · 2018-10-07 · Message 96 of 140

Hi there, I’m taking notes to prepare for my trip at Easter. .

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-07 · Message 97 of 140

Hi Jean-Philippe,

Thanks for your friendly message. Unfortunately, the travel journal is almost over, and I don’t have much left to post on VF... 🙂

See you soon, JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-07 · Message 98 of 140

Thanks Guillaume, We’d already wanted to do Spencer four years ago, but cautiously we’d settled for Cathedral Wash instead. Spencer combines height... with sweat!!! 😛

Have a good evening, JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-07 · Message 99 of 140

Hi Jojo, Thanks for your input.

You didn’t go a few hundred meters further onto the Spencer Trail plateau—there were beautiful views on the other side of the Colorado River’s meanders too.

Oh, but we did... Though, not being entirely sure, I thought I spotted snakes. So we didn’t stick around long... The plateau offers a stunning view stretching toward Page and its Navajo power plant...

And for those with time, there’s also the CATHEDRAL WASH Trail on the way back (nice to do with no one else around for a picnic with your feet in the water).

Ah, Cathedral Wash...! What an unforgettable memory—that hike is accessible (though you’ll still need decent shoes) and leads to the legendary Colorado River. Christelle insisted we do it back in 2014, and it ended up being one of the trip’s highlights!!

2014 Cathedral Wash, Marble Canyon

And while we’re on the subject, Lee’s Ferry isn’t just about Cathedral Wash and Spencer Trail—there’s also PARIA CANYON TRAIL. Super tempting, following the Paria River all the way near Page, but we’ve never done it because it’s over 45 miles long!!!!!🙂😇😛

Have a good evening, JF

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JeffPrX · 2018-10-07 · Message 100 of 140

Good evening

Thanks for your message! I’d been wanting to do the Wildcat Trail in Monument Valley for ages—the urge to get lost in peace, away from the tourist crowds... Like everywhere, as soon as you walk a little, you get that feeling of being at the end of the world. You can almost picture yourself as John Wayne, chewing tobacco, only getting off your horse to step into a saloon for a shot of rotgut whiskey and a poker game before the showdown on the deserted street... 😇

And we did it! Unfortunately, the sky was overcast, but that meant we didn’t get too hot—it must get *very* hot there. I’d recommend doing it early in the morning.

Have a great evening, JF

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