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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 121 of 361

To be exact it's Muang Ngoi Neua:P There's a gorgeous viewpoint but it's a bit of a climb... a little nod to Kate who must've missed it;): https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/smarttour/24143231

I went there, and I nearly lost a lung! But it's true the view is breathtaking.


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RichardXI · 2026-02-19 · Message 122 of 361

Hi Jojoone and Djalma

You’re both right—the correct spelling is Muang Ngoi, and to be more precise, Muang Ngoi Neua (Neua meaning “north”)

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Kate · 2026-02-19 · Message 123 of 361

There’s a really nice viewpoint, but it’s a bit of a climb... just a little nod to Kate who must’ve missed it๐Ÿ˜‰

Oh no, darn it! Good thing I can just look at photos ๐Ÿ˜› I only climb if what’s waiting at the top is worth it. A reward, you know!

At Luang Prabang on Mount Phousi: groups of Chinese tourists At Kuang Si Falls: a bar and some trees In Muang Ngoi, despite my pleas, we didn’t have time

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 124 of 361

To be precise, it's Muang Ngoi Neua :P There's a gorgeous viewpoint, but it's a bit of a climb... just a little nod to Kate who must've missed it ;): https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/smarttour/24143231

Otherwise, to be precise—and after thinking about it—the amazing viewpoint you mentioned is actually in Nong Khiaw, the village before Muang Ngoi ;). You can see the village and the bridge in my photo.

There’s also a viewpoint in Muang Ngoi, but we gave up on it—the slope was too steep (and I only had one lung left!)

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Djalma · 2026-02-19 · Message 125 of 361

I only climb if what’s waiting for me at the top is worth it. A reward, you know!

Near Muang Ngoi, there’s also a pretty typical village not far away: Ban Na. The walk there is flat (or almost—well, from what I remember), and farther on, there’s a nice waterfall whose name I’ve forgotten.

In Luang Prabang at Mount Phousi: groups of Chinese

I didn’t go there—I just didn’t feel like it...

At Kuang Si Falls: a bar and trees

Nope, not there either!

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Aleph240758 · 2026-02-19 · Message 126 of 361

To be exact, it's Muang Ngoi Neua๐Ÿ˜› There's a really nice viewpoint, but it's a bit of a climb... just a little wink to Kate who must have missed it๐Ÿ˜‰: https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/smarttour/24143231

Otherwise, to be precise, and after thinking about it, the great viewpoint you mentioned is actually in Nong Khiaw, the village before Muang Ngoi ๐Ÿ˜‰. You can see the village and the bridge in my photo.

There’s also a viewpoint in Muang Ngoi, but we gave up on it—the slope was too steep (and I only had one lung left!)

I thought the view from Muang Ngoi looked different because I did both and loved them +++ I’m heading back to my travel journal

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 127 of 361

In our end-of-day plan, we were supposed to climb Som Nang, one of the hills overlooking the city, to enjoy the sunset. I was about to do it solo given the circumstances, while Kate was going to wander the village streets looking for street scenes like she loves to do. But surprise—Bruno and Nathalie knocked on the door and told me they wanted to come along.

Just a reminder that you skipped the hike that day 😄

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 128 of 361

I thought the view of Muang Ngoi was different because I’ve done both and +++ I’m heading back to my travel journal

Can’t wait to see your photos of Muang Ngoi in your travel journal—we’d focused on visiting the villages since we were short on time

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Muriel18 · 2026-02-19 · Message 129 of 361

Me too, Bruno—I thought I’d never make it (plus, I’m far from being a mountain person ๐Ÿ˜), and all that just to see... this! ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ



Well, after "a little" patience, we ended up with almost the same view as you ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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Djalma · 2026-02-19 · Message 130 of 361

Otherwise, to be precise, and after thinking about it, the super viewpoint you mentioned is actually in Nong Khiaw, the village before Muang Ngoi ;). You can see the village and the bridge in my photo.

There’s also a viewpoint in Muang Ngoi, but we gave up on it because the slope was too steep (and I only had one lung left!)

To be honest, I’ve always mixed up the two. Coming from the north (Phongsaly), I think we pass through Muang Ngoi first, then Nong Khiaw—but I must be getting the rest confused. In one of the two villages, there’s a cave at the exit of the village. The viewpoint is definitely in Nong Khiaw—at least that’s the route (from Komoot) we took.

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 131 of 361

Yeah, I remember your trip being a bit of a mixed bag! ๐Ÿ˜‰

There was an amazing 360ยฐ view up there!

The photo’s just to make Catherine regret it (yeah, it’s terrible )

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Muriel18 · 2026-02-19 · Message 132 of 361

It's true that the view (unobstructed) is amazing... but I'm not even sure it makes Kate regret the effort required ๐Ÿ˜

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 133 of 361

To be honest, I’ve always mixed up the two. Coming from the north (Phongsaly), I think you first pass through Muang Ngoi and then Nong Khiaw—I must be mixing up the rest.

You got it right this time!

In one of them, there’s a cave at the edge of the village

That could be Tham Kang cave, on the road from Muang Ngoi to Ban Na, the first village in the plain. The cave is known for being one of the shelters from American bombs.

P.S.: Google Maps is my best friend ;)

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RichardXI · 2026-02-19 · Message 134 of 361

Day 12 / Day 13 / Day 14: Heading south, Don Det and the 4000 Islands

The road from Paksรฉ to the 4000 Islands region is wide, well-maintained, and in just over three hours, we arrive at the Nakasang pier. A pirogue is waiting for us along the dock and takes us across a small branch of the Mekong to reach Don Det.

First steps...

Here we are in southern Laos, where the Mekong lazily winds its way through a myriad of islands and islets that fragment its course. We chose the island of Don Det, the most well-known, and therefore the most touristy. Here, at least for a few more years, the tourist pressure remains moderate. Many travelers, often young, remind me of what we were like thirty or forty years ago. As is often the case in Laos, it’s still a backpacker’s kind of tourism—slow travel, at the country’s pace, not demanding much comfort, and ready to get around with whatever’s available. Laos is still off the beaten path of mass tourism, and the Chinese, though increasingly numerous, seem to be concentrating in the north of the country around Vang Vieng and Luang Prabang for now.

As soon as we disembark, we head to our nearby accommodation, tucked away behind the dock—the Don Det Hotel. The two-story building, quite large but not ostentatious, blends harmoniously into the landscape. At the foot of the building, a tree-filled garden with a soft green lawn leads to a large wooden terrace overlooking the Mekong. The view is stunning. The wide, peaceful river, dotted with islets, seems almost glass-like at this time of day. In the distance, against the pure blue sky, the powerful, rounded mountains of nearby Cambodia stand out. This isn’t exactly a budget hostel—it’s more for comfortable boomers like us. The nightly rate, however, remains reasonable: 50 € for the room, breakfast included. The owner, a Swiss man, welcomes us warmly and gives us plenty of tips to make the most of the island.





The island of Don Det is small. Quite narrow—1.5 km from one shore to the other—it stretches 3.5 km in length. It’s easy to explore on foot, by bike, or in a tuk-tuk. Most of the shops and tourist spots are concentrated within a few hundred meters of the main pier, but as you move further inland, the landscape becomes more rural, and the houses more scattered. This late afternoon, we’ll just take a short walk along the eastern bank, which seemed more rooted in local life than the apparently livelier western shore. We stroll peacefully along the sandy, tree-lined path that runs alongside the Mekong. Along the sides, small traditional-style houses line up with their woven bamboo facades. They’re all on stilts and wide open to the outside, with terraces facing both the path and the river. Though we’re just observers, we’re gently drawn into the seemingly serene daily life of the men and women going about their tasks. And as always in these so-called Southern countries, dozens of children come out from everywhere to play—some on the riverbanks, others in boats, and the little ones hiding under the stilts of the houses.











The sun has finished its day too, and it’s time for us to watch the sunset from the hotel terrace. Ah, those famous “Sunsets”! There’s often something annoying about travel when they always present a sunset as the highlight of the day. I’ve seen some beautiful ones back home in Sรจte, by my ร‰tang de Thau. But here, facing the Mekong turning pink, with the Cambodian mountains darkening their green, and a glass of Italian white wine in hand, I have to admit this moment was pure magic—for me and my companions alike...




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Attila · 2026-02-19 · Message 135 of 361

This view is amazing! Do you remember the elevation change?

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Attila · 2026-02-19 · Message 136 of 361

I’ll ask Kate for the copyright permissions for the last photo! 😄

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Kate · 2026-02-19 · Message 137 of 361

Just a reminder that you skipped the hike that day...

You all confused me with the Ngoi, Muang, and other Ngoy! Anyway, when it comes to climbing, I bail. How do you expect me to remember if I didn’t even go?! But this time, no more hikes. I’m loving the 4000 Islands! It’s flat, beautiful, warm, lively yet relaxing, and there aren’t many tourists. If I had to come back to just one place in Laos, this would be it ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Kate · 2026-02-19 · Message 138 of 361

I’m gonna ask Kate for copyright permission for the last photo!

I thought of you and Montagnard when I took this photo!

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 139 of 361

This view was really nice! Do you remember the elevation gain?

On the link Djalma sent, they mention 500m of elevation gain, but it seemed like more . Anyway, the slope was super steep!!

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Montagnard74 · 2026-02-19 · Message 140 of 361

Just a reminder that you skipped the hike that day...

You all confused me with the Ngoi, the Muang, and the other Ngoy! Anyway, when it comes to climbing, I skip. How do you expect me to remember if I wasn’t even there?!

If you don’t know, ask your man

It was the ascent of Som Nang that they did while you were indulging in your favorite passion. You’ve got to keep up, Catherine!

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