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Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 Weeks in South Africa, September 2017 (page 8 of 8)
Discussion started by Michel85200 on 2017-09-28
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Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Diamina · 2017-12-17 · Message 141 of 156
Hey again Michel,
I’m devouring your travel journal—it’s as great as always and super informative. And the icing on the cake? Those mouthwatering photos! You should totally get paid by the South African tourism office!!ðĪŠ
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Michel85200 · 2017-12-17 · Message 142 of 156
Don’t hesitate to tell them
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Michel85200 · 2017-12-17 · Message 143 of 156
And glad to hear from you!
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Diamina · 2017-12-17 · Message 144 of 156
So glad to hear from you!
Thanks.... Same here!!!
I just finished your travel journal and really enjoyed it. When you said the photos didn’t do justice to the landscapes you saw in the Karoo, I totally get what you meant. Those wide-open spaces are so hard to capture. It’s like the photos of Lesotho.....
And now you’ve got me feeling that call of southern Africa again...
Thanks, Michel.
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Michel85200 · 2017-12-17 · Message 145 of 156
In 2000, I set foot on this African land
Since then, it’s had a special pull on me
Madness or wisdom?
Doesn’t matter—I’ll be back
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Diamina · 2017-12-17 · Message 146 of 156
You're lucky if it's just South Africa. You should do like Le Voyou: move there.
Me, it's the whole world that has that effect on me. Well, the part of the world that has much cooler temperatures than here and is a bit desert-like!!! ð
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Rjulie95 · 2017-12-17 · Message 147 of 156
For me, it's the whole world that has that effect. Well, the part of the world that's much cooler than where I live and a bit desert-like!!! ð
That rules out a big chunk of the world ð
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Diamina · 2017-12-17 · Message 148 of 156
The whole world has that effect on me. Well, the part of the world that has much cooler temperatures than where I live and is a bit desert-like!!! 
That rules out a big chunk of the world
You mean the tropics and the equator make up a big part of the world. I totally agree with you there. But since I already live there......ðŪ ðĪŠ
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Muriel18 · 2017-12-18 · Message 149 of 156
Hi Diamina
The whole world has that effect on me. Well, the part of the world that has much cooler temperatures than where I live
Same here... except I replace "cooler" with "hotter" ð. Well, actually, it's the other part of the world ð.
Muriel
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Michel85200 · 2024-10-24 · Message 150 of 156
A message to myself to revive this travel journal
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Hdj · 2024-10-24 · Message 151 of 156
This brings back great memories of our 2016 trip—5 months in Southern Africa with our Ford Ranger and its camper shell.
We fell in love with these regions a bit off the tourist trail: Cederberg, Cradock, Mountain Zebra NP, Graaff-Reinet, Nieu Bethesda, and more...
Can’t wait to go back!
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Michel85200 · 2024-10-24 · Message 152 of 156
Oh yeah
This place is gorgeous
Part two of the new travel journal
A foray into the Cederberg
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SaveCheetah · 2025-03-13 · Message 153 of 156
Hi Michel, given the contacts you’ve had with South Africans, what’s the vibe like between Black people and the Boer and British descendants living in South Africa? I imagine the communities don’t really mix or get along? I often read about "secure places" or not... is that linked to the tensions that can exist between Black and white people? As tourists, how are we perceived by them? Just walking wallets, or can we hope for genuine encounters? 🤔 You’ll probably say it also depends on how we behave...
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
Michel85200 · 2025-03-13 · Message 154 of 156
Hello,
Work contacts are cordial,
But private contacts are far fewer, especially for older people.
However, this is changing with the younger generation.
Travelers and French people are very well received.
There’s a bit like in the USA—often a kind of somewhat fake friendliness.
But members of the Black community are quite keen on connecting with foreigners.
Otherwise, it’s mostly indifference.
There’s still an underlying mistrust between the three communities: Black, English, and Boer.
But the same goes for relationships *within* the Black communities.
There’s also significant immigration, not always friendly, especially in tourist areas.
Between being natural, straightforward, warm but firm, and not naive.
Safe places:
It’s mainly:
The areas around tourist spots,
The rougher neighborhoods,
Times when only troublemakers are left in the streets.
Would you go
Into the townships as a tourist?
Are the areas around major train stations safe?
It’s outside the big hotels in Durban where troublemakers hang around.
Wild Eastern and Western Cape, 3 weeks in South Africa, September 2017
SaveCheetah · 2025-03-13 · Message 155 of 156
Thanks for the details. What do you mean by "les zozos"?ðĪŠ
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Michel85200 · 2025-03-13 · Message 156 of 156
Hey
The guys who kinda hang around to beg, drink, or more or less look for trouble