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Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Discussion started by Moi2007moi on 2025-04-09

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Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Moi2007moi · 2025-04-09

Hi, I booked a ticket on January 2nd for a round trip from Lyon to Amman from August 13th to 27th. I received an email on March 27th informing me that my departure and arrival airport would no longer be Lyon but Paris. I contacted them to say I refused this change, since it’s 400 km between the two airports. They replied that I could cancel my flight with cancellation fees of 130 € and a non-refundable tax of 29.82 €. Or I could change the dates and still face a 130 € penalty. I find this unbelievable—the airport change isn’t my fault, but theirs. They told me Royal Jordanian no longer flies out of Lyon. What should I do?

Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Tatra · 2025-04-09

Hi there,

Where did you buy that ticket? The airline? An agency? A middleman?

Michel

Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Moi2007moi · 2025-04-10

Hi, I bought my ticket directly on their website. Best regards

Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Patrick91230 · 2025-04-10

Hi there, They have to refund you because it’s them who changed the airport. You’ll need to insist. I didn’t know Royal Jordanian also flew out of Lyon!

Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Erjome · 2025-04-10

Hello,

Royal Jordanian should offer you re-routing via another city. Plus, they’re part of the Oneworld alliance with partners to make that happen.

Royal Jordanian: oneworld member airline | oneworld

Changing airports in Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Moi2007moi · 2025-04-10

Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply. I’ll contact them and suggest the options you just mentioned. Thanks everyone

Change of airport from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

ElviajeroPar · 2025-04-10

Hello, For a complaint of this type, forget the very existence of the phone and the Internet! Only a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt (AR) will do. Since this is a flight departing from the European Union, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council applies. It is completely obvious that this is a flight canceled by the airline. There can be no question of cancellation by the passenger!!! Under no circumstances should you cancel your ticket yourself! Indeed, if you cancel it yourself, the airline will apply its general terms and conditions. However, this does not prevent you from demanding a full refund of the ticket due to the cancellation made by the airline and not by you. Since the flight is canceled more than 14 days in advance, there can be no question of compensation. Excerpts from Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council: Article 5 Cancellations

In the event of cancellation of a flight, the passengers concerned:

a) are offered assistance by the operating air carrier in accordance with Article 8 [...] Article 8 Assistance: right to reimbursement or re-routing

When reference is made to this article, passengers are offered the choice between:

a) - reimbursement of the ticket, within seven days, under the conditions referred to in Article 7(3), at the price at which it was purchased, [...], and, where applicable, [...] b) re-routing to their final destination, under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible, or c) re-routing to their final destination under comparable transport conditions at a later date, at their convenience, subject to seat availability. End of excerpts. Procedure to follow: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2023/05/03/flight-canceled-undeniable-right-to-refund-if-no-re-routing-voucher-only-if-passenger-agrees/ Since this flight is canceled well in advance, and you therefore have plenty of time to look for another flight ticket, I advise you to opt for the simplest solution: demand a full refund. This is all the more true since, with the significant drop in oil prices and the US dollar, it’s not unreasonable to think (even if it’s just a guess) that flight ticket prices should decrease if this situation continues. Royal Jordanian has an official address in France (trade register): Alia The Royal Jordanian Airline, 12/14 rue Thérèse 37/41 rue Sainte Anne, 75001 Paris. Always make sure to use the full name of the airline and not just its commercial brand. Best regards,

Change from Lyon to Paris Airport with Royal Jordanian

Bairrovoyage · 2025-04-21

Honestly,

I wanted to reply and help you, but your "story" doesn’t add up. ROYAL JORDANIAN has never served Lyon, and as far as I know, they don’t have plans to do so. So, I think you either have a connecting flight from Lyon (to Paris) or a ticket with another airline. You’ll need to clarify what you actually bought (initially), and then we can give you a more precise answer.

Chris

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Erjome · 2025-04-21

Hi Chris,

So sorry RJ no longer serves Lyon directly from Amman.

Royal Jordanian to serve Lyon, stops in Toronto | Air Journal

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Bairrovoyage · 2025-04-21

Sorry,

Sure enough, I did some research and saw that the last Royal Jordanian (RJ) flight to Lyon/LYS was on April 5, 2025. After that date—nothing until August (no RJ flights from Amman to Lyon).

Under EU Regulation 261/2004, passengers can cancel everything and receive a full refund. The information provided by RJ is incorrect/false. From Lyon/LYS, Aegean or Pegasus offer flights (with connections) to Amman. If the flight cancellation happens more than 14 days before departure, the airline isn’t required to offer an alternative (just the full refund).

Thanks for the reminder. Chris

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ElviajeroPar · 2025-04-22

If the flight cancellation occurred more than 14 days before departure, the airline isn't required to offer an alternative (just a full refund)

Chris

Hello,

But yes!!! The 14-day deadline, which, by the way, only applies to flights canceled by the airline, only matters FOR the right to compensation.

However, whether it's more than 14 days before or not, Articles 5, 8, and 9 of Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council apply:

quote:

"Article 5 Cancellations 1. In the event of cancellation of a flight, the passengers concerned: a) shall be offered assistance by the operating air carrier in accordance with Article 8; b) shall be offered assistance by the operating air carrier in accordance with Article 9(1)(a) and (2), as well as, in the case of re-routing when the reasonably expected departure time of the new flight is at least the day after the planned departure of the canceled flight, the assistance provided for in Article 9(1)(b) and (c); and c) shall be entitled to compensation by the operating air carrier in accordance with Article 7, unless they are informed of the cancellation of the flight: i) at least two weeks before the scheduled time of departure; or ii) between two weeks and seven days before the scheduled time of departure if they are offered re-routing allowing them to depart no more than two hours before the scheduled time of departure and to reach their final destination less than four hours after the scheduled time of arrival; or iii) less than seven days before the scheduled time of departure if they are offered re-routing allowing them to depart no more than one hour before the scheduled time of departure and to reach their final destination less than two hours after the scheduled time of arrival. Article 8 Assistance: right to reimbursement or re-routing 1. Where reference is made to this Article, passengers shall be offered a choice between: a) - the reimbursement of the ticket within seven days, under the conditions referred to in Article 7(3), at the price at which it was purchased, for the part or parts of the journey not made and for the part or parts already made if the flight is no longer serving any purpose in relation to the passenger’s original travel plan, and where relevant, - a return flight to their initial departure point as soon as possible; b) re-routing to their final destination under comparable transport conditions, as soon as possible, or c) re-routing to their final destination under comparable transport conditions at a later date at their convenience, subject to seat availability. 2. Paragraph 1(a) shall also apply to passengers whose flight forms part of a package tour except for the right to reimbursement if such a right arises under Directive 90/314/EEC."

End of quote

While it's true that the law requires offering re-routing, even via another airline's flight, airlines are very reluctant to comply with this obligation.

Check this out: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2023/09/29/indemnisation-meme-si-circonstance-extraordinaire-droit-reacheminement-dans-les-meilleurs-delais/

When the cancellation is made well in advance, it’s often better to see if you can find an alternative flight yourself that isn’t more expensive, and just demand a refund.

However, sometimes even getting a refund requires a procedure and, above all, patience. Check this out: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/10/23/lufthansa-championne-du-refus-des-droits-des-passagers/

Best regards

Changing airports from Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

Bairrovoyage · 2025-04-22

Hi Elviajero,

Still (again) active on VF? :-) Good to see we crossed paths a few years back on the old VF.... I remember it well. Always so enriching!

I’m not contesting what you’re saying (I think we were on first-name terms?), and everything you wrote is 100% accurate and correct (with the right references too). The 14-day difference before departure only changes the right to compensation/penalty under 261/2004 (which you clearly and rightly pointed out), but it also affects the right to an alternative solution (another comparable/similar flight). I’ll happily admit that this right is a bit vague and hard to enforce, especially if airlines don’t play fair or offer options that work in their favor (e.g., departing from another airport or date changes).

So, often the best solution is to find a good alternative yourself (paying again), and then wait for the full refund (which can take a few weeks, even though 261/2004 gives them 7 days to do it).

Thanks for everything! Chris

Change of airport in Lyon to Paris with Royal Jordanian

ElviajeroPar · 2025-04-23

Hello,

The 14-day difference before departure only changes in relation to the right to compensation/penalty under 261/2004 (which you clearly and very well explain), but also in relation to the right to an alternative solution (another comparable/similar flight).

No! Read Article 5, paragraph 1 of Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council more carefully. Under a) of this Article 5, paragraph 1, the passenger is offered the assistance provided for in Article 8, i.e., the choice between reimbursement and re-routing.

AND

Under c) the right to compensation subject to a 14- or 7-day notice period.

These two rights, given the wording, are cumulative!

I willingly concede that this right is a bit unclear

It’s not unclear at all. No interpretation is possible given the wording.

Best regards

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