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Voyage 4x4 dans le nord-est de la Grèce
Nous envisageons de parcourir en 4x4 le nord est de la Grèce au mois d'octobre 2011. Si quelqu'un a déjà exploré cette région hors des sentiers battus et balisés, nous sommes intéressés par tous les renseignements qui pourraient nous être utiles. Est-il possible et facile de bivouaquer ? Sinon les campings ou hébergements chez l'habitant sont-ils encore d'actualité en cette saison.
D'avance merci.
4x4 trip to Egypt in the Libyan Desert?
Hello,
We’ve just returned from a 15-day trip to Egypt by 4x4, starting from Venice by ferry. We went through an agency with a small group of 7 vehicles because of the complexity of the procedures involved. In addition to the customs passbook that needs to be provided, you should know that the desert is a military zone, so you need an escort. For our group, we were 12 participants and were escorted by 13 military personnel! 5 from the tourist police, 6 from the army, and 2 guides from the Egyptian agency. Of course, this comes at a cost, but it’s less burdensome when shared among a group. The military were very discreet—they never asked us to change our itinerary and never interfered with us. The formalities at the port of Alexandria are quite tedious: 4 hours and 30 minutes on the way out, despite the agency’s intervention. We were required to buy a 3 kg fire extinguisher (55 €), even though we already had extinguishers. On the way back, it was only slightly better—just 3 hours and 30 minutes. We had to provide a certificate from the police stating that we hadn’t had any accidents and had no outstanding fines.
We didn’t regret using an agency because another group that arrived via Syria couldn’t go into the desert or even to Abu Simbel.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Annick
We’ve just returned from a 15-day trip to Egypt by 4x4, starting from Venice by ferry. We went through an agency with a small group of 7 vehicles because of the complexity of the procedures involved. In addition to the customs passbook that needs to be provided, you should know that the desert is a military zone, so you need an escort. For our group, we were 12 participants and were escorted by 13 military personnel! 5 from the tourist police, 6 from the army, and 2 guides from the Egyptian agency. Of course, this comes at a cost, but it’s less burdensome when shared among a group. The military were very discreet—they never asked us to change our itinerary and never interfered with us. The formalities at the port of Alexandria are quite tedious: 4 hours and 30 minutes on the way out, despite the agency’s intervention. We were required to buy a 3 kg fire extinguisher (55 €), even though we already had extinguishers. On the way back, it was only slightly better—just 3 hours and 30 minutes. We had to provide a certificate from the police stating that we hadn’t had any accidents and had no outstanding fines.
We didn’t regret using an agency because another group that arrived via Syria couldn’t go into the desert or even to Abu Simbel.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Annick
