PS : je vis sur Lyon. Si des lyonnais peuvent me conseiller de bonnes adresses ...
Achat d'un vélo de randonnée pas trop cher
by Barbygere
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
j'ai déjà fait quelques randonnées en vélo (Cévennes, Syrie ...) mais avec un vélo pas forcément très adapté.
J'y ai pris goût et ai plein de projets plein la tête 🙂 !
Je souhaiterai donc m'acheter un bon vélo sur lequel je pourrais partir jusqu'à un mois. Et ceci sans me ruiner !! Quand je vois certains prix sur internet (3000 euros !), j'ai peur. Mon budget est d'à peu près 500 euros (j'ai déjà sacoches et porte bagage).
Je précise que j'ai quelques problèmes de dos et donc le confort sera déterminant pour faire mon choix.
Pouvez vous me conseiller ?
Merci pour votre aide. 🙂
Eric
PS : je vis sur Lyon. Si des lyonnais peuvent me conseiller de bonnes adresses ...
PS : je vis sur Lyon. Si des lyonnais peuvent me conseiller de bonnes adresses ...
Bonjour !
Oui je confirme ! Les Vélos Lapierre sont pas mal du tout ! Je viens d'acheter un VTT Lapierre il y a 3-4 semaines et je l'ai équipé pour voyager. Dans ton budget, je me pencherais sur le modèle 250 Tecnic Team, qui est a 580 euros. Puis si ton budget est un peu extenseible, ben le 260 Tecnic Team est mieux équipé (plus fiable logiquement!), avec un "vrai" pédalier, de meilleurs moyeux et un vitesse de plus (ca peut servir hein). Il est dans les 750 euros je crois, tu négocies une petite remise et hop !
Moi j'ai acheté un modèle un peu au dessus, (le pro 350 VB si ca intéresse quelqu'un!) et je l'ai équipé pour voyager. C'est grosso modo le meme cadre que le Tecnic Team que je te conseille (le vélo a 750 euros pour ceux qui ne suivent pas......) et je peux te dire que niveau confort, c'est drolement bien ! tu enlèves si possible la fourche téléscopique pour la remplacer par une normale et hop! Tes bagages se chargeront de jouer le role d'amortisseur pour ton dos, et puis réparti tes bagages a l'avant et l'arrière du vélo, pour le confort, ca me parait nettement mieux ! (bon je débute hein en voyage en vélo mais je ne crois pas me tromper!)
Voila !
PS : si tu croises un Vtt Lapierre dans Lyon équipé pour le voyage, c'est peut etre moi ! 🙂
Oui je confirme ! Les Vélos Lapierre sont pas mal du tout ! Je viens d'acheter un VTT Lapierre il y a 3-4 semaines et je l'ai équipé pour voyager. Dans ton budget, je me pencherais sur le modèle 250 Tecnic Team, qui est a 580 euros. Puis si ton budget est un peu extenseible, ben le 260 Tecnic Team est mieux équipé (plus fiable logiquement!), avec un "vrai" pédalier, de meilleurs moyeux et un vitesse de plus (ca peut servir hein). Il est dans les 750 euros je crois, tu négocies une petite remise et hop !
Moi j'ai acheté un modèle un peu au dessus, (le pro 350 VB si ca intéresse quelqu'un!) et je l'ai équipé pour voyager. C'est grosso modo le meme cadre que le Tecnic Team que je te conseille (le vélo a 750 euros pour ceux qui ne suivent pas......) et je peux te dire que niveau confort, c'est drolement bien ! tu enlèves si possible la fourche téléscopique pour la remplacer par une normale et hop! Tes bagages se chargeront de jouer le role d'amortisseur pour ton dos, et puis réparti tes bagages a l'avant et l'arrière du vélo, pour le confort, ca me parait nettement mieux ! (bon je débute hein en voyage en vélo mais je ne crois pas me tromper!)
Voila !
PS : si tu croises un Vtt Lapierre dans Lyon équipé pour le voyage, c'est peut etre moi ! 🙂
Merci pour ta réponse. En fait j'ai déjà un VTT Lapierre (à peu près le même que toi en plus vieux) et je vois d'après le message que tu as lancé par ailleurs, que nus avons le même problème : pas de fixations pour le porte bagage ! Je n'ai pas envie de me lancer dans du bricolage. Les trous sur un cadre alu me semble très risqué, le coup des colliers me laisse dubitatif ... (faudrait que tu m'envoies une photo de ta réalisation !! ou bien que tu me le montres de visu !). On doit en effet se croiser, je roule tous les jours dans lyon avec mon Lapierre.
Bref, je suis pas trop avancé aujourd'hui ...
A plus !
eric
😮😮😮 Là il va falloir m'expliquer pourquoi vous achetez un VTT Lapierre, changez la fourche pour le convertir en vélo de route "batard" et vous plaindre ensuite qu'il n'est pas terrible !!
Je vous rappelle qu'il existe la gamme Sub chez Lapierre, parfaitement adaptée pour la rando (fourche à faible débattement, roues de 700, pattes de fixation pour porte-bagages sur le cadre...)
http://www.cycles-lapierre.fr/webfiles/Produits/Producthome.htm
B&R, heureux propriétaire d'un Sub 590 Cheyenne.
Je vous rappelle qu'il existe la gamme Sub chez Lapierre, parfaitement adaptée pour la rando (fourche à faible débattement, roues de 700, pattes de fixation pour porte-bagages sur le cadre...)
http://www.cycles-lapierre.fr/webfiles/Produits/Producthome.htm
B&R, heureux propriétaire d'un Sub 590 Cheyenne.
" Trois vélos ? Mais tu n'as que deux jambes ! " (remarque incrédule d'une néophyte du cycle, découvrant mon garage)
Bonjour,
merci pour vos réponses.
On ne s'est peut être pas bien compris. Je n'ai jamais dit que je voulais toucher à mon VTT ! Au contraire, je suis même parti sur l'idée d'en acheter un autre spécial rando !
Plusieurs questios après vos réponses : VTC chez Lapierre ? Lequel est bien adapté à la rando ? Tu parles d'un sub 590; je suis allé voir. A part la fourche et les pneus, il ressemble pas mal à un vtt. C'est bon pour le dos quand on avale les km ? Je m'imagianis un cadre où j'aurais une posture moins courbée. un Lapierre style campus ou collège est il adapté pour la rando ? Avez vous un avis la dessus ?
Au plaisir de vous lire !! Eric
Au plaisir de vous lire !! Eric
Salut Eric,
Je m'adressais à JG07. 😉
Non, aucun problème de lombaires avec le Sub Cheyenne (pour info, j'ai 14 vis et 4 plaques au niveau des L5...) car la potence est relevée et pas trop longue. La gamme SUB permet à Lapierre de recycler (ouarf) ses cadres VTT des saisons passées... Résultat, tu as un cadre très solide et performant. Pour info, je n'ai jamais pu utiliser un vélo "de route" car j'ai justement mal au dos avec ce type de géométrie !
Cherche le post intitulé "Remorque Radical Design Cyclone : mon retour d'expérience", il y a plusieurs photos et mon avis -enthousiaste- sur ce vélo 🙂.
Pour les modèles Campus et College, ce sont des vélos pour les déplacements urbains au quotidien. Déjà tu te prends 3 kg de plus à vide, ensuite tu as une géométrie de "mémère" associée à des dérailleurs qui te feront poser pied à terre à la première côte un peu raide...
Demande à ton vélociste à essayer la famille Sub, il n'y a que comme ça que tu te feras une idée si tu es bien dessus où pas.
Bonne route.
B&R
Je m'adressais à JG07. 😉
Non, aucun problème de lombaires avec le Sub Cheyenne (pour info, j'ai 14 vis et 4 plaques au niveau des L5...) car la potence est relevée et pas trop longue. La gamme SUB permet à Lapierre de recycler (ouarf) ses cadres VTT des saisons passées... Résultat, tu as un cadre très solide et performant. Pour info, je n'ai jamais pu utiliser un vélo "de route" car j'ai justement mal au dos avec ce type de géométrie !
Cherche le post intitulé "Remorque Radical Design Cyclone : mon retour d'expérience", il y a plusieurs photos et mon avis -enthousiaste- sur ce vélo 🙂.
Pour les modèles Campus et College, ce sont des vélos pour les déplacements urbains au quotidien. Déjà tu te prends 3 kg de plus à vide, ensuite tu as une géométrie de "mémère" associée à des dérailleurs qui te feront poser pied à terre à la première côte un peu raide...
Demande à ton vélociste à essayer la famille Sub, il n'y a que comme ça que tu te feras une idée si tu es bien dessus où pas.
Bonne route.
B&R
" Trois vélos ? Mais tu n'as que deux jambes ! " (remarque incrédule d'une néophyte du cycle, découvrant mon garage)
Salut BikeandRoll !
Recyclage de cades vtt des saisons passées ? tu veux dire que je vais retrouver le même cadre que mon Lapierre Technic Lite d'il y a deux ans ?!!
Bon, je vais tout de même allez essayer les sub ! Merci pour ta suggestion.
Et questions porte bagage, ils ont tout ce qu'il faut pour les fixer ?
A + Eric
A + Eric
bonjour !
Ben je n'ai jamais dis que mon Vtt n'etait pas terrible !!! C'est tout le contraire, j'en suis drolement content ! Quant a mon choix d'avoir acheter un VTT plutot qu'un vélo de rando, il s'explique très simplement : Je débute en voyage en vélo, je pars 3 semaines en suisse cet été et le reste de l'année je pourrai profiter de mon vélo pour faire du VTT !!!! Je ne voulais pas d'un vélo de rando type VTC qui se limiterait exclusivement a un usage rando... Et puis les roues de 26" sont quand meme plus courantes que les roues de 700 en cas de probleme.....Pour ce qui est de la fourche, il me parait évident qu'une fourche téléscopique n'est pas adaptée pour le voyage en vélo (pb d'entretien...... ), alors je la remplacerais par une fourche normale pour voyager si je me décide a partir pour une longue durée..... Pour ce qui est de la fixation des portes bagages, je me suis débrouillé a fixer des portes bagages av et ar sur un VTT qui n'a rien de prévu pour cela...... et je ne me plains pas !!! Pour les 3 semaines que je vais passer en suisse cet été, ca ira très bien comme ca.....
Voila !
Ben je n'ai jamais dis que mon Vtt n'etait pas terrible !!! C'est tout le contraire, j'en suis drolement content ! Quant a mon choix d'avoir acheter un VTT plutot qu'un vélo de rando, il s'explique très simplement : Je débute en voyage en vélo, je pars 3 semaines en suisse cet été et le reste de l'année je pourrai profiter de mon vélo pour faire du VTT !!!! Je ne voulais pas d'un vélo de rando type VTC qui se limiterait exclusivement a un usage rando... Et puis les roues de 26" sont quand meme plus courantes que les roues de 700 en cas de probleme.....Pour ce qui est de la fourche, il me parait évident qu'une fourche téléscopique n'est pas adaptée pour le voyage en vélo (pb d'entretien...... ), alors je la remplacerais par une fourche normale pour voyager si je me décide a partir pour une longue durée..... Pour ce qui est de la fixation des portes bagages, je me suis débrouillé a fixer des portes bagages av et ar sur un VTT qui n'a rien de prévu pour cela...... et je ne me plains pas !!! Pour les 3 semaines que je vais passer en suisse cet été, ca ira très bien comme ca.....
Voila !
Salut à tous,
Effectivement les VTC et les roues de 700 me paraissent une mauvaise idée si on veut voyager en dehors des pays occidentaux.
Par contre pour Eric qui parle de partir 1 mois à la fois, la fourche téléscopique n'est pas un problème si elle est en état au départ.
Effectivement les VTC et les roues de 700 me paraissent une mauvaise idée si on veut voyager en dehors des pays occidentaux.
Par contre pour Eric qui parle de partir 1 mois à la fois, la fourche téléscopique n'est pas un problème si elle est en état au départ.
Il y a une adresse incontournable à Lyon pour le cyclotourisme, c'est Follis (du côté de la Part-Dieu, http://www.cyclesfollis.com/). Ils ont des vélos à prix inabordable mais ils distribuent aussi la marque ORBEA bon marché et c'est là que tu auras les bons conseils et les bons accessoires.
Sinon je te conseille vivement d'aller voir ce que tu peux trouver en occasion, un bon vélo d'occasion est beaucoup plus durable qu'un vélo moyen neuf, et dans un vélo tout se répare ou remplace. Je pense que tu peux en trouver chez Follis ou en tout cas chez troc'sport dans le Mont d'Or.
Bonne recherche !
Simon
Bonne recherche !
Simon
😉effectivement, vas faire un tour chez Follis...il y a beaucoup à apprendre en discutant avec le patron et son mécano...même si tu n'achètes rien!...j'ai eu un vélo rando pour 2400 euros(dèmonstration), ce n'est pas indispensable cependant, j'avais un vieux Giant Sierra que je me suis fait voler...et ça allait très bien...mais j'avoue que la Rolls du vélo, c'est assez top!...je suis pour les cadres acier...A+ bon choix!
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I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance