Nous partons pour quelques jours à Timimoun. Je souhaiterais savoir combien de temps dure la descente Oran - Timimoun en bus? Et Alger - Timimoun? Est ce plus rapide par Ghardaia (Laghouat/Ghardaia/Golea) ou par Bechar (Bechar/Beni Abbes/Timimoun)? J'ai eu l'occasion de descendre sur Taghit de Alger via Bechar en bus, la route etait plutot bonne. Est ce que quelqu'un connais la route jusque timimoun? Et est ce faisable par voiture par ses propres moyens? Avis aux connaisseurs de cette region, si vous avez des renseignements je suis preneur.
Bus pour l'Adrar: Oran - Timimoun / Alger - Timimoun
by Tomzy
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Bonjour,
Nous partons pour quelques jours à Timimoun. Je souhaiterais savoir combien de temps dure la descente Oran - Timimoun en bus? Et Alger - Timimoun? Est ce plus rapide par Ghardaia (Laghouat/Ghardaia/Golea) ou par Bechar (Bechar/Beni Abbes/Timimoun)? J'ai eu l'occasion de descendre sur Taghit de Alger via Bechar en bus, la route etait plutot bonne. Est ce que quelqu'un connais la route jusque timimoun? Et est ce faisable par voiture par ses propres moyens? Avis aux connaisseurs de cette region, si vous avez des renseignements je suis preneur.
Nous partons pour quelques jours à Timimoun. Je souhaiterais savoir combien de temps dure la descente Oran - Timimoun en bus? Et Alger - Timimoun? Est ce plus rapide par Ghardaia (Laghouat/Ghardaia/Golea) ou par Bechar (Bechar/Beni Abbes/Timimoun)? J'ai eu l'occasion de descendre sur Taghit de Alger via Bechar en bus, la route etait plutot bonne. Est ce que quelqu'un connais la route jusque timimoun? Et est ce faisable par voiture par ses propres moyens? Avis aux connaisseurs de cette region, si vous avez des renseignements je suis preneur.
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Pr Aller a Timimoun, a Partir du Nord, il est préférable de Faire Alger - Ghardaïa (Bus Luxe ), puis Ghardaïa - Timimoun …….
Il y a bco de Bus qui Font La navette entre La Capitale vers la Perle du Désert Ghardaïa, ( le Prix du Billet est environ de 650 Dinars, sois 6 Euros, Les Bus SONT Luxe et très récent……et Ghardaïa vers Timimoun, il y a aussi les Bus Toyota de 25 Places ( Environ 500 Dinars), ou les Taxi ( env. 800 Dinars)……
C très Fesable par sa propre Voiture et ses propres moyens et ça va te coûter une somme très dérisoire, la Route d Alger vers Ghardaïa est excellente, aussi jusqu el golea, puis la route est un petit peu détérioré ( qqs trous sur la chaussée) mais en grosso modo la chaussée est Bonne…De préférence ne pas faire cette partie par Nuit…….…Le Diesel coûte 1370 Dinars pr 100 Litres ( 12 Euros), l Essence sans plomb 2270 pr 100 Litres ( 21 Euros)….Il y a des stations essence et des café -resto sur ts l iteneraire…..Juste sois un peu vigilant en conduite, surtout par Nuit, car les conducteurs Ici ne respecte pas tous le code de la route, et surtout les Feux par Nuit…
Je te souhaite bon voyage, et bon séjour parmi Nous….
ALGERIA....JUST BELIEVE IN IT......
( In Islam We Trust & in Algeria we Believe)....
SALUT TOMZ
LE PLUS BEAU LA ROUTE ALGERIE DERECTION LAGHOUAT/GHARDAIA C'EST MANIFIQUE PAS LONG.
IL YA LES BUS A GHARDAIA POUR EL-GOLEA .TIMIMOUN CHAQUE JOUR DES BELLE BUS.
ALGERIE BECHAR.BENI ABBAS C'EST UN LONG ROUTE.MAINTENENT IL YA BEAUCOUP LA PLUIE QUI COUPE LA ROUTE AUSSI (EL-OUED) ENTRE BECHAR BENI ABBAS.
SI VOUS AVEZ UN BELLE VOITURE TU PEUT VENIR LES ROUTE SONT BON.
J'AI COUNAIS BIEN TOUS LES REGION DE SUD ALGERIE.
CHOISE LA ROUTE ALGERIE GHARDAIA MIEU QUE ALGERIE.ORAN.BECHAR.TIMIMOUN
ABIENTOT
JE SOUHAITE LE BIEN VENU😉
Bonjour
Voici quelques info
Timimoun par la route de l'Ouest ( Oran, Bechar) n'est pas desservie par Bus .Donc à oublier.
Alger Timimoun via Ghardaia 1290 Km . 17/18 Heures . 6 Départs quotidiens ( bus confortables) 1 300 DA 3 à 5 arrets.
Bien : Pas cher, Sécurité, ponctualité Moins Bien ; trés fatiguant, la grande partie du trajet se fait de nuit
La voiture reste l'idéale
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Timimoun par la route de l'Ouest ( Oran, Bechar) n'est pas desservie par Bus .Donc à oublier.
Alger Timimoun via Ghardaia 1290 Km . 17/18 Heures . 6 Départs quotidiens ( bus confortables) 1 300 DA 3 à 5 arrets.
Bien : Pas cher, Sécurité, ponctualité Moins Bien ; trés fatiguant, la grande partie du trajet se fait de nuit
La voiture reste l'idéale
a +
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Bonjour,
Pour Timimoun, le meilleur itinéraire par bus ou voiture : ALGER/LAGHOUAT/GHARDAIA/EL GOLEA/TIMIMOUN = 1230 km - route excellente !
Bon voyage !
Pour Timimoun, le meilleur itinéraire par bus ou voiture : ALGER/LAGHOUAT/GHARDAIA/EL GOLEA/TIMIMOUN = 1230 km - route excellente !
Bon voyage !
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces reponses. Malheureusement nous partirons de Oran. Connaissez vous une liaison de Oran ou meme une correspondance possible?
Merci encore.
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Dans ce Cas la ( Débarquement a Oran); Tu n’a pas d autre Solution que de Prendre le Bus d Oran vers Ghardaïa ( Minimum Trois Liaison par Jour), il passe par Tiaret-Aflou-Laghouat-Berriane et enfin Ghardaïa)….et de Ghardaïa tu as ts deux Choix de Transport vers Timimoun, qui sont les Bus ou les Taxi ( 4/4)… Les 2 moyens de Transports sont En abondance…
Sur les Deux Itinéraire les Buses sont Très Confortable, la Route est en Générale Bonne, et le Montant de ce trajet ( Oran-Ghardaia-Timimoun) par bus est de 1500 DA .( env.).
Tu peut aussi prendre le Bus Oran -Touggourt ( qui passe par Ghardaïa, Ou a défaut Oran Laghouat et tu Continue vers Ghardaïa ( 220 km). Mais Ghardaïa reste la Ville de Transit Incontournable, est aussi incontournable du coté Touristique et Architecturale.
ALGERIA....JUST BELIEVE IN IT......
( In Islam We Trust & in Algeria we Believe)....
Zeg merci de ta reponse, c'est intéressant comme trajet. Mais, si quelqu'un l'a déjà fait, est ce beaucoup plus long que Alger Timimoun de faire Oran Timimoun?
Merci
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La Distance entre Alger et Ghardaïa est de 633 Kms…..
Et la Distance entre Oran et Ghardaïa est de 721 Kms……
Ce qui est Sur et Certain c que le Trajet Alger Timimoun est bcp Moins Long que Oran Timimoun……………. C sans aucun Doute…..La Route entre Alger et Ghardaïa est la Nationale une, une route très Fréquentée, car c la route Principale qui mène du Nord vers le Sud.......
Ce qui est Sur et Certain c que le Trajet Alger Timimoun est bcp Moins Long que Oran Timimoun……………. C sans aucun Doute…..La Route entre Alger et Ghardaïa est la Nationale une, une route très Fréquentée, car c la route Principale qui mène du Nord vers le Sud.......
ALGERIA....JUST BELIEVE IN IT......
( In Islam We Trust & in Algeria we Believe)....
Bonjour
Une autre possibilité à partir d'Oran .(La plus pratiquée par nous autres)
Prendre le bus pour Adrar ( le direct via Bechar) ; 1 260 km, 16/17h de route, 1 500 DA .
Repartir vers Timimoun soit en taxi (300 DA) ou en bus (200 DA) ;2 heures de routes (200km)
Ou bien
Si, et seulemnet si, votre hotelier viendra vous attendre soit à l'intersection de Charouine ou celle de Tsabit
A+
Une autre possibilité à partir d'Oran .(La plus pratiquée par nous autres)
Prendre le bus pour Adrar ( le direct via Bechar) ; 1 260 km, 16/17h de route, 1 500 DA .
Repartir vers Timimoun soit en taxi (300 DA) ou en bus (200 DA) ;2 heures de routes (200km)
Ou bien
Si, et seulemnet si, votre hotelier viendra vous attendre soit à l'intersection de Charouine ou celle de Tsabit
A+
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Bonjour
Une autre possibilité à partir d'Oran .(La plus pratiquée par nous autres)
Prendre le bus pour Adrar ( le direct via Bechar) ; 1 260 km, 16/17h de route, 1 500 DA .
Repartir vers Timimoun soit en taxi (300 DA) ou en bus (200 DA) ;2 heures de routes (200km)
Ou bien
Si, et seulemnet si, votre hotelier viendra vous attendre soit à l'intersection de Charouine ou celle de Tsabit
A+
Oui, C un Autre Itinéraire et c un choix de plus, mais je pense qu il a plus d Inconvénients que d’Avantages… Distance 1460 (Oran-Timimoun) au Lieu de 1230 (Alger-Timimoun) La Route Alger-Ghardaia- Timimoun est Principale et Plus Fréquentée ( Route Vers Ghardaia, Tam, vers Hassi Rmel, et aussi vers Hassi messaoud) par les Usagés que celle d Oran-Bechar-Timimoun. Et Enfin : La cadence des Bus et autres Moyens de Transport sont plus élevé sur Alger-Ghardaia-Timimoun que Oran-Bechar-Timimoun. Mais, Je suggère à Notre Ami de mettre ce plan (Oran-Bechar-Timimoun) comme un plan de substitution…. (Plan B.). Merci
Une autre possibilité à partir d'Oran .(La plus pratiquée par nous autres)
Prendre le bus pour Adrar ( le direct via Bechar) ; 1 260 km, 16/17h de route, 1 500 DA .
Repartir vers Timimoun soit en taxi (300 DA) ou en bus (200 DA) ;2 heures de routes (200km)
Ou bien
Si, et seulemnet si, votre hotelier viendra vous attendre soit à l'intersection de Charouine ou celle de Tsabit
A+
Oui, C un Autre Itinéraire et c un choix de plus, mais je pense qu il a plus d Inconvénients que d’Avantages… Distance 1460 (Oran-Timimoun) au Lieu de 1230 (Alger-Timimoun) La Route Alger-Ghardaia- Timimoun est Principale et Plus Fréquentée ( Route Vers Ghardaia, Tam, vers Hassi Rmel, et aussi vers Hassi messaoud) par les Usagés que celle d Oran-Bechar-Timimoun. Et Enfin : La cadence des Bus et autres Moyens de Transport sont plus élevé sur Alger-Ghardaia-Timimoun que Oran-Bechar-Timimoun. Mais, Je suggère à Notre Ami de mettre ce plan (Oran-Bechar-Timimoun) comme un plan de substitution…. (Plan B.). Merci
ALGERIA....JUST BELIEVE IN IT......
( In Islam We Trust & in Algeria we Believe)....
Ok, merci vos informations sont precieuses! Je pense qu'on va prendre la route de Oran via Bechar et decendre vers Kerzaz pour prendre un taxi.
En tout cas merci pour les infos !
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Bonjour
Comme idée y a mieux. Kerzaz et les autres villages (ksour) entre Bechar et Timimoun ne sont pas trés indiqués pour en faire un lieu de correspondances. vous risquez une grosse galére.
Prenez tout simplement le bus ou un taxi a partir de bechar
Salutations
Comme idée y a mieux. Kerzaz et les autres villages (ksour) entre Bechar et Timimoun ne sont pas trés indiqués pour en faire un lieu de correspondances. vous risquez une grosse galére.
Prenez tout simplement le bus ou un taxi a partir de bechar
Salutations
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Merci de vos reponses. C'est donc faisable Bechar Timimoun? Un ami m'a dit que Alger - Timimoun etait risqué aussi en quoi l'est ce?
Barrage? Police? Banditisme?
Je ne crois pas trop au legende de mise en garde pour avoir fait plusieurs pays soit disant "chaud" mais si vous en dsavaient plus sur un troncon de la route où il y a lieu d'etre vigilent je suis preneur.
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!




