Are the factories in Grasse that allow visits to their premises "tourist traps"?
The distilleries are all in Kelaa M'Gouna—there are two, maybe three if I remember correctly. Visits are by appointment only, and they’re "companies," not tourist traps.
You should also ask yourself why they’d agree to let you visit, taking up a manager’s time to show you around?
You’re clearly looking for something "different" in Morocco. You won’t really find that on a forum, but by taking the time with people. The difference between a tourist trap and the real deal is the time you spend with locals, chatting and building connections.
Registered on March 14, 2014, this Monsieur Nico, whom I greet, must not look too closely at the information on this site lol!!! So apart from tourist hotels, what else is there??? It’ll come, haha! It’s true that in Europe there’s nothing like this lol!!! No factories! No hotels! No tourist scams—just the good life!! lol!!!
Hi, I visited a distillery in Kelaa M'gouna without an appointment.... A gentleman all to myself, of course, to whom I gave a tip at the end. Then there’s a little shop (what’s more normal?).... Wine cellar tastings in France are designed to make you buy their wine, right?)...
You should also know that all rose extracts are not sold at all in Morocco but are sent abroad (France, USA) to make very expensive perfumes. It’s incredible, but everything you’ll find in the nearby shops isn’t good quality. There are ten or even a hundred kinds of day cream. A study will be done soon to find out which is the best (source: a local pharmacist)...
Best regards,
Marie
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
despite the sarcastic replies......I’d ask the same question!!
Last year, I passed through El Kelâa des M'Gouna and saw dozens of stalls from my taxi, all with bright pink bottles on display!
After that, I was taken to a tourist "shop"... there was indeed a still in the next room—people seemed to be cleaning it...
But in the shop, I had to ask 3 or 4 times for rose essential oil before being told it wasn’t the season!.....even though it keeps for several years...
Apart from creams, toilet water, and little soaps supposedly made with rose essence, I didn’t find anything interesting!
I also wondered where the distilleries were and what happens to the rose essential oil!?
In my opinion:
1. Either it’s not produced there—
2. Or it is, but in well-hidden distilleries that aren’t open to visitors...
3. And the rose essential oil—so precious—must be mostly (99%?) exported!!
Otherwise, why can’t you find any...neither there nor in Marrakech!!!
It’s the same with argan oil! ...you find cooperatives everywhere along the road...even where there are no argan trees.....and the demonstrations in these places aren’t convincing at all! You can’t possibly produce liters and liters of argan oil by crushing the kernels the way these women do....
They’re certainly underpaid for playing their role in front of tourists ready to believe anything....
The argan oil products, on the other hand, *seem* authentic!?!
The real problem in Morocco is the sudden influx of tourists....and the high demand for local products that were handmade...just 10 or 15 years ago...but now I have more and more doubts...about their origin, and it’s starting to smell more and more like China in the souks!!...what a shame!
Honest Moroccans, tell us the truth!!! Thanks in advance
Now that sounds a bit more plausible... but the study to figure out which one is the best, haha! Let me laugh.
Best in what way? First, we’d need to check how many actually contain real rose essential oils!... so expensive.
Around 10,000 € per liter!!... (in Europe, in a 10ml bottle)
Registered on March 14, 2014, this Mr. Nico whom I greet, must not look too closely at the info on this site lol!! So apart from tourist hotels, what else is there??? It’s coming lolol! It’s true that in Europe there’s nothing like this lol!! No factories! No hotels! No tourist scams—just the good life!! lol!!!
Thanks for your very constructive reply.... Please, don’t waste any more of your precious time replying to me—I don’t think I’m worth it....
Nico is asking a question... so either we give him an answer or we say nothing!
He definitely signed up to find out what to do or how to go about things in a country he doesn’t know...
We’ve all been in the same situation, right? Give him some useful answers! Thanks
Nico asked a question......so either we have an answer for him....or we say nothing!
He certainly signed up to find out what to do or how to do it in a country he doesn’t know.....
We’ve all been in the same situation, right? Give him some useful answers! Thanks
Thanks for your contribution and the previous ones—I know Morocco a bit since I’ve been there four times already... and like France, Morocco has big scams and very honest artisans. I don’t want to end up in the Valley of Roses buying made-in-China stuff... but organic and eco-certified products do exist....
In my opinion, it'll be tough to find..... and the problem is that drivers (and guides?) take you where they can make a margin.... so where the scam is the biggest!!!! But if you've found one, let us know....! Thanks.
For my part, after 30 or 40 visits to Morocco.... I can see that things have changed and that "local" products are more and more fake!!!! Poor quality and always more expensive... go figure why!?!
In my opinion, it'll be hard to find..... and the problem is that drivers (and guides?) take you where they can make a margin.... so where the scam is the biggest!!!! But if you've found it, let us know....! Thanks.
Personally, after 30 or 40 visits to Morocco.... I can see that things have changed and that "local" products are more and more fake!!!! Poor quality and always more expensive... go figure why!?!
I’m thinking of this address? Now, there might be some trickery... like it could exist or does exist (sorry Karoll...):
"After two years of restoration fully funded by LABORATOIRE HÉVÉA, the KASBAH DES ROSES opened its doors in April 2009. Lahcen and his family warmly welcome you there to offer you an authentic stay in Berber country, right in the heart of the Valley of Roses. During the blooming of the Damask rose (April-May), you’ll witness the harvest and distillation of this aromatic jewel on-site."
Hévéa is a European lab that markets organic products certified by ECOCERT...
Oh great! Here’s an address that seems legit.
Now, the question is whether it’s open for visits! It looks like they distill the very delicate floral buds on-site—but their website isn’t very clear about what happens to the rose essential oil. You can kinda tell they export it, given how much it sells for here!
Oh great! Here’s an address that seems legit.
Now, the question is whether it’s open for visits!?... It looks like they distill the very delicate floral buds on-site—but the website isn’t very clear about what happens to the rose essential oil. You can see why they’d export it given the price it fetches here!!!
After emailing the Hevea lab, it seems visits are possible since the business is still family-run.... As for the price, I’m not sure—I think the entire production is sold to Hevea, which explains the high costs. So, this is the kind of place I’m looking for in the valley, not the shops in Kelaa. Apparently, there are two big distilleries in Kelaa, but they’re not open to visitors...
Thanks for the tip..... I’ll definitely spend a day or two there next time! The hikes in the area must be beautiful too. Have a great stay!
P.S. The price of rose essential oil is relative to the delicacy of the flower, its fragility, and the subtle aromas it gives off. But the price in Morocco—if you can buy it—should be much lower than in Switzerland or France!
If you get the chance to buy some, it’s a very precious gift for those (guys or gals?) who know and appreciate essential oils. Rose oil is renowned for its cosmetic properties.
but the study to find out which one is the best hahah!! let me laugh.
I don’t know if you understood; I wasn’t talking about essential oil because that’s a sure thing—it’s exported to big European and American perfumeries.
I was talking about the “face creams” that fill the shelves with misleading labels. The study we’re preparing was confirmed by a pharmacist over there who couldn’t answer my question: which one is the best. During the study, they’ll calculate exactly which cream has the most natural rose-based ingredients.... A little tip I was given: the pinker the cream, the less natural it is (chemical product)....
At the distillery, I was able to buy rose water, the only natural product left in Morocco (don’t confuse it with the stuff sold in the stalls!!!).
In the region, I was there for the festival last year and saw the women picking roses, bringing them in sacks to be weighed... When you see that work, it’s no wonder rose essential oil is expensive.
Best regards,
Marie
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
hi, welcome to the Valley of Roses.
for distillation, we always work with fresh roses, and the roses of the day. To see how distillation is done, you should come during the rose season, late April to late May. We have an artisanal distillery at the entrance of Kelaa M'gouna, about 1 km away (ROSARGANE). I’ll explain the process and tell you about the rose.
The distillery is always open for demonstrations, but we only distill during the rose season, which lasts 25 to 30 days.
And for the Rose Festival this year, it’s May 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th.
Hi Mezgarne, I can't send you a private message because I don't participate much in the forum. Here's my number: 0699107755, I'm still around.
Thanks, and if you get the chance to come, you're welcome.
Thanks Bassou for your reply. We’ll be in Kelaa on Friday, May 23rd around 4:00 PM, hoping your distillery will be running then. Can you tell me if you produce organic products?
Coming from Ouarzazate, could you let me know exactly where you’re located?
Hi there,
Thanks for your message, Niico. At that time, I’ll be around. The operation depends on the roses, Niico, because we’re starting to see little rose buds now. In about 10 days, we’ll begin distillation, inshallah, and it also depends on the weather. As for the products, they’re good quality and organic. To find us, we’re at the entrance of Kelaa M’gouna, about 1 km away when coming from Ouarzazate—there’s a sign on the left marked ROSARGANE. We’re also in the 2013 *Guide du Routard* if you have it, Niico.
Okay, thanks a lot! We’ll stop by your place on Friday the 23rd, but the distillation might be over if you started about 10 days ago! I got in touch with Isabelle in France, who gave me Ali O.’s contact info—is that you?!
It seems like your products are high quality, and we’re not looking for "made in China"... There’ll be three of us, and we’re after something traditional, artisanal, and the chance to chat about the production process. We’ll be staying in Agoulzi that evening...
Looking forward to talking about your beautiful craft and passion...
Yes Niico, those are the coordinates Isabelle (Ali Ouarmassi in Agen) gave you. It's me who’s in the shop, and the distillery is right next door. Hoping the roses will hold up in this weather! You’ll be staying at Arlette’s in Agoulzi—I know her very well. Say hi to her for me. She came last year, end of April I think.
Yep, we’ll be staying at ARLETTE’s place... and happy harvesting! See you on the 23rd! I’ll get back in touch a few days before to check if the roses are still in bloom...
Hey Niico, for the products, they’re also sold in France. It’s really well-known—Rosargane, in the south of France in Agen. There’s also a lab called ARGANESSENCE LABORATOIRE. Just search online for "rosargane" or "arganessence laboratoire," and you’ll find the contact details.
Since in a month and a few days, it's vacation time :-) .... it's easier to come buy them in Kelaa! I'll be accompanied by two retired teachers, and they'd love to get all the explanations about the distillation process.... hoping the harvest won't be over, which might be the case by May 23rd! Are the buds still swelling nicely?
All we have left to do is look for the Rosargane sign 1 km before Kelaa :-)
Just so you know! The Rose Festival (MOUSSEM) starts on the first and second weekend. Lots of activities and distillery visits—the valley will be in early bloom!!
Just so you know! The Rose Festival (MOUSSEM) starts on the first and second weekends. Lots of activities and distillery visits—the valley will be in early bloom!! Get out of your taxi and take a stroll; I can tell you, you’ll find a warm and truly peaceful welcome! Yes, the oils are used in cosmetics worldwide, and they’ve got to make a living—plus, everything is done by hand, from the harvests to the labor. Stop getting ripped off by guides and others—just go for it! You won’t be disappointed, and with a bit of luck, you might even witness weddings!!!
Hi Lahcen! Could you tell me where you live? Because I’m heading to El Kelaa M’Gouna from May 9th to 12th, 2014. I’d love to know if the rose harvest will have started by then. Thanks! Have a great weekend, Karoll
Thanks Lahcen! Really disappointed about this date change! So I called Kasbah Chems, and indeed, the festival seems to be postponed (instead of booking for 3 nights, I’ll just book for one night, that’s all!). Thanks for letting me know! So I’ll change my monthly trip plan! Nothing’s stopping me from coming to see you, since my itinerary was to continue after the festival to Msemrir (the Dades Gorges), Agoudal, Ait Hani (the Todra Gorges), Tinerhir, Goulmima, then head back to Ait Hani via the Todra Valley and on to Ait-Ben Haddou, and visit the Ourika Valley before returning to SAFI! See you soon for a visit—I’m just sorry I won’t know if I can attend the Rose Festival! Thanks again!
To wrap up... when is this moussem? And how many are there?
May 9-11? Or from the 28th to the 30th? I thought the dates were set in advance?
Or does it depend on the harvest? And who decides when the festival starts?
I'm so confused!
Hi Madeleine. Believe me, I’m really annoyed because I’d planned my upcoming monthly trip down to the last detail. Yep, the festival’s been postponed (according to Bassou, he’s working at the distillery there) to May 23–24–25, 2014. The harvest? No, because they start distilling at the beginning of May, and as for who decides… ?? That’s the latest news, confirmed by the owner of the hotel where I’d booked. Take care, and I’ll keep you posted if anything changes.
So we still don’t know who’s calling the shots?? The local authorities? The Caïd? ...
so planning anything in advance for the moussem is a lost cause!?!
Hi, for the date change, it’s the festival organizers and also the Fédération Interprofessionnelle Marocaine de la Rose à Parfum (FIMAROSE) who decide. And for the dates this year, it’s May 22/23/24 and 25 instead of May 8/9/10 and 11.
Okay, thanks.....this makes sense that the festival takes place during the harvest (or at the end?) and that it’s decided locally. Which proves it’s not just a tourist event!!!!... but that doesn’t make things any easier for us!
yes, but the issue is that some people are already planning their trip for this time, and also making hotel reservations. Normally, you shouldn’t announce the date at the start—only when you’re sure—because visitors want to see the roses, the festival, and its activities, like the Rose Mass, the Rose Carnival, etc.
Well, thanks Lahcen for all this info! So many changes... and for us, well, it’ll happen during our trip on the 23rd as planned for a while now... It’s true that for reservations and flight tickets, it’s not easy. I’m still waiting for confirmation of our booking from Arlette...
It’s been a week since I saw Arlette—she says hi, by the way. I told her she’s got customers coming on the 23rd, and she asked how I knew. I said I met Niico online.
I emailed them two days ago to confirm (I'm still waiting for their reply) and told them I planned to stop by because the distillery is legit and organic, and that you're really nice in emails! And good news—even though I thought the roses would be done by now!!!
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Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier.
Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel...
Day 3: Stop in Tetouan
Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains
Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!)
Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis
Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad)
After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF).
Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary:
From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure)
Arrival and departure: Essaouira
Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest
Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities
Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering?
Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac
Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel
Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac
Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep
Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac
Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac
Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest
Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay
Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac
Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight)
Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online
We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide?
👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.)
🍽️ Restaurants / meals
We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal.
👉 Any thoughts?
👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.)
For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal
Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊
🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood
We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street).
👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍
Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is...
My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music.
Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians?
We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley.
If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening
Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada
Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon
Day 6: Luxor
Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon
Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada
Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van.
Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges.
Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime.
If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving...
Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!