Location de voiture ou 4x4 à Alger
by Francois1980
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
je pars une grosse semaine en algérie du 30 décembre 2009 au 7 janvier 2010. Je pars avec quatre filles.
On va loger a alger chez une copinne et on souhaitait descendre a ghardaia deux ou trois jours. on souhaiterait y aller en voiture, on cherche donc a en louer une pour 3 ou 4 jours depuis alger (qu on rendrait a alger), est ce que quelqu un a des recommandations? on cherche un truc pas trop cher (j ai l impression que toutes les franchises type hertz, avis, europcar sont assez cher). on cherche également un modele un peu plus spacieux qu une petite 206 vu qu on sera 5 et que ca représente pas mal de route, on prendrait plus une petite berline ou meme idéalement un 4x4? je ne trouve pas grand chose sur le net, des conseils ou des adresses?
si certains d entre vous ont des suggestions sur des lieux sympas a ne pas manquer sur la route alger-ghardaia, n hésitez pas... on cherche a faire un truc sympa un peu roots (meme si serais un mec avec 4 jolis nanas...)
merci d avance.
SALUT
IL YA DES TOYOTA 4X4 AU SUD ALGERIE.
QUAND TU AURA CETTE 4X4 SI MIEU POUR VOUS UN TOUR VERS LE SUD SI TRES JOLIE. MEME POUR FAIRE VOTRE NOEL.
ABIENTOT
je reposte ma réponse qui a été effacée par erreur.
"bonjour, j'ai fait cette route en août 2005, avec une Fiat Uno climatisée mais nous n'étions que deux. à l'époque je n'avais aucune connaissance de ce forum et je n'avais pas de guide sur l'Algérie. en arrivant à Alger, nous avons fait les pages jaunes Algérie et trouvé un loueur. il nous amené la voiture où nous étions, nous avions payé de mémoire 30 euro par jour, et cerise sur le gâteau, nous a conduit à l'aéroport le jour du départ, sans supplément. j'ai perdu son numéro depuis longtemps mais il y a beaucoup de loueur sur place, c'est une grande ville, et les algériens sont assez différents dans leur façon d'appréhender les touristes, vu qu'il n'y en a que très peu (je ne parle pas du Grand Sud). on se sent sincèrement "les bienvenus"... le pied, ce sont les tarifs dérisoires du carburant. aucun besoin d'un 4x4 pour aller là-bas, ni même pour pousser jusqu'à El Oued ou Ouargla (une sinon la plus grande palmeraie d'Afrique du Nord).
pour ce qui est de la route vers Ghardaïa, je te conseille de partir très tôt d'Alger le matin. la route est longue si on veut la faire en une fois, mais c'est faisable. traverser les montagnes ne doit se faire que de jour, lorsqu'il y a de la circulation : c'est la zone à risque. après les montagnes, le spectacle vient de la route, qui traverse des étendues désertiques en ligne droite. attention aux dromadaires, pour lesquels on dit là-bas : "Dieu a mis dans l'oeil du chameau la peur de l'homme, pas celle de la voiture..." c'est très sérieux, ils se foutent complètement de la bagnole qui arrive à 150 km/h, mais si tu sors, ils partent en courant. les panneaux font partie du paysage : attention chameau, attention virage. aux contrôles de police, ralentir puis s'arrêter, allumer le plafonnier, sourire. les policiers et les gendarmes sont aussi sympas que les autres algériens et indiquent volontiers la route. aucun pourboire ne nous a été exigé. l'arrivée à Ghardaïa doit se faire de jour pour profiter du spectacle. il faut visiter chacune des quatre collines, le mausolée de Beni Isguen... tu trouveras des guides sur place pour la visite. attention, c'est fortement conseillé car les ibadites ont des règles assez strictes et certains endroits à certains moments sont interdits aux femmes. le soir les portes des petites cités ferment. nous avions dormi dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, où Toufikh a reconstruit des petites maisons dans le style oriental avec le confort moderne. en demi pension, nous avions payé de mémoire 25 euro par personne et par nuit, à négocier sur place. nous avions même eu le droit à un orage et de la grêle. il est possible selon les jours dont vous disposez d'aller faire une excursion dans le désert de sable, voir le coucher de soleil, boire un thé, sans personne autour. j'ai un numéro mais je ne sais pas s'il est encore bon. il est assez connu là-bas. évitez l'hôtel d'état, dont les seuls intérêts sont la piscine et la bière, mais ambiance morose, voire glauque. vois ce post de 2007 : http://voyageforum.com/...anoub_m_zab_D958249/ il faut aller dans les palmeraies pour apprécier les réseaux d'irrigation. la plupart a été construite au 15è siècle.
ensuite vous pouvez décider d'aller plus loin vers l'Est ou le sud bon voyage"
"bonjour, j'ai fait cette route en août 2005, avec une Fiat Uno climatisée mais nous n'étions que deux. à l'époque je n'avais aucune connaissance de ce forum et je n'avais pas de guide sur l'Algérie. en arrivant à Alger, nous avons fait les pages jaunes Algérie et trouvé un loueur. il nous amené la voiture où nous étions, nous avions payé de mémoire 30 euro par jour, et cerise sur le gâteau, nous a conduit à l'aéroport le jour du départ, sans supplément. j'ai perdu son numéro depuis longtemps mais il y a beaucoup de loueur sur place, c'est une grande ville, et les algériens sont assez différents dans leur façon d'appréhender les touristes, vu qu'il n'y en a que très peu (je ne parle pas du Grand Sud). on se sent sincèrement "les bienvenus"... le pied, ce sont les tarifs dérisoires du carburant. aucun besoin d'un 4x4 pour aller là-bas, ni même pour pousser jusqu'à El Oued ou Ouargla (une sinon la plus grande palmeraie d'Afrique du Nord).
pour ce qui est de la route vers Ghardaïa, je te conseille de partir très tôt d'Alger le matin. la route est longue si on veut la faire en une fois, mais c'est faisable. traverser les montagnes ne doit se faire que de jour, lorsqu'il y a de la circulation : c'est la zone à risque. après les montagnes, le spectacle vient de la route, qui traverse des étendues désertiques en ligne droite. attention aux dromadaires, pour lesquels on dit là-bas : "Dieu a mis dans l'oeil du chameau la peur de l'homme, pas celle de la voiture..." c'est très sérieux, ils se foutent complètement de la bagnole qui arrive à 150 km/h, mais si tu sors, ils partent en courant. les panneaux font partie du paysage : attention chameau, attention virage. aux contrôles de police, ralentir puis s'arrêter, allumer le plafonnier, sourire. les policiers et les gendarmes sont aussi sympas que les autres algériens et indiquent volontiers la route. aucun pourboire ne nous a été exigé. l'arrivée à Ghardaïa doit se faire de jour pour profiter du spectacle. il faut visiter chacune des quatre collines, le mausolée de Beni Isguen... tu trouveras des guides sur place pour la visite. attention, c'est fortement conseillé car les ibadites ont des règles assez strictes et certains endroits à certains moments sont interdits aux femmes. le soir les portes des petites cités ferment. nous avions dormi dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, où Toufikh a reconstruit des petites maisons dans le style oriental avec le confort moderne. en demi pension, nous avions payé de mémoire 25 euro par personne et par nuit, à négocier sur place. nous avions même eu le droit à un orage et de la grêle. il est possible selon les jours dont vous disposez d'aller faire une excursion dans le désert de sable, voir le coucher de soleil, boire un thé, sans personne autour. j'ai un numéro mais je ne sais pas s'il est encore bon. il est assez connu là-bas. évitez l'hôtel d'état, dont les seuls intérêts sont la piscine et la bière, mais ambiance morose, voire glauque. vois ce post de 2007 : http://voyageforum.com/...anoub_m_zab_D958249/ il faut aller dans les palmeraies pour apprécier les réseaux d'irrigation. la plupart a été construite au 15è siècle.
ensuite vous pouvez décider d'aller plus loin vers l'Est ou le sud bon voyage"
le Pays Dogon par Massina
Super! ma réponse à votre réponse a disparu également, elle etait moin fourni que la votre cependant, il ne s agissait que de vous remercier pour votre réponse tres complete. Cela va beaucoup nous servir pour notre voyage. Pour ce qui est de descendre plus vers le sud, hélas nous n aurons pas le temps de descendre plus bas que ghardaia.
Bonne journée.
Salut,
Pour les Location, je pense que t'a pas besoin d Une 4/4, mais juste d une voiture spacieuse…J'avais l Habitude de loué une Hyundai – Trajet : 7 places, très spacieuse et très confortable……
Si tu débarque a Alger , il y a pas mal Agence qui Loue ce Model de véhicule et autre , les véhicules roulent en Diesel, et il est presque gratuit en Algérie ( a titre d exemple: 100 Litres = 1370 Dinars= 12 Euros). Tu prends la Nationale Une, trop fréquenté, pas de soucis coté sécurité, mais évitez de rouler de Nuit. Et surtout n arrête pas n importe ou, il y a pas mal De restos et Café sur ton trajet, et après Laghouat, la route est presque Libre jusq'a Ghardaïa. Si t'a pas d interlocuteur, je peut te fournir les coordonnés d un Autochtone Propriétaire d une Maison de Hote a la palmeraie de Beni Izgen, sérieux, et très sympa.
Bon séjour Parmi Nous en Algérie. Yough.
Pour les Location, je pense que t'a pas besoin d Une 4/4, mais juste d une voiture spacieuse…J'avais l Habitude de loué une Hyundai – Trajet : 7 places, très spacieuse et très confortable……
Si tu débarque a Alger , il y a pas mal Agence qui Loue ce Model de véhicule et autre , les véhicules roulent en Diesel, et il est presque gratuit en Algérie ( a titre d exemple: 100 Litres = 1370 Dinars= 12 Euros). Tu prends la Nationale Une, trop fréquenté, pas de soucis coté sécurité, mais évitez de rouler de Nuit. Et surtout n arrête pas n importe ou, il y a pas mal De restos et Café sur ton trajet, et après Laghouat, la route est presque Libre jusq'a Ghardaïa. Si t'a pas d interlocuteur, je peut te fournir les coordonnés d un Autochtone Propriétaire d une Maison de Hote a la palmeraie de Beni Izgen, sérieux, et très sympa.
Bon séjour Parmi Nous en Algérie. Yough.
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
salut, merci de ta réponse, je veux bien que tu m envoie les coordonnées de ton ami qui a une maison d hote, nous ne te promettons pas d y aller, mais sait on jamais. bonne journée.
😎Salut François!
Super ton idée d'aller à Ghardaia!!
En effet si tu pars trés tot le matin(vers4h!!) tu arriveras plutot vers 16h maximum à Ghardaia!!Il y a 600 bornes...
Sinon je vais t'indiquer un loueur de voiture super sympa et vraiment professionel;
c'est dans la rue Addoun tu peux aller voir sur un plan d'Alger ou ça se trouve, je pense que tu trouveras facilement le garage qui loue pas mal de modèle de voiture.
Pour aller dans le Sud il te proposeras surement un 4X4 : c'est vraiment ce qu'il te faut.Cette rue est située tout prés de la grande Poste d'Alger n'elle est pas longue .
Sinon n'oublie pas que l'agence te demandera un caution de 40000 dinars...
Bon Voyage!
Ziz😎
amarcord
quel intérêt de louer un 4x4, qui va coûter au bas mot deux fois plus cher qu'une berline, pour rouler sur une route goudronnée en bon état tout du long ? et même dans Ghardaïa, le 4x4 n'a pas d'intérêt car la plupart des visites se font à pied.
le Pays Dogon par Massina
Bjr,
Sans Faute mais par MP.…..Juste une précision, si je te confie les coordonné de Notre Ami c pas dans le but ou l obligation de débarqué chez Lui, pas du tt, mais comme j'ai vu que tu est a la recherche d'un Hébergement, j'ai pensé que c le meilleur Moyen de séjourner a la palmeraie de Beni Izgen ( via notre ami ou autre), car crois moi c un mode de logement très naturel et surtout très authentique.
Je te déconseille de rouler de Nuit, car ici la conduite Nocturne est très dangereuse, et je répète que juste un simple Véhicule spacieux fera ton affaire (ex: Hyundai Trajet, Peugeot 806, ….), et ta pas besoin du tt d une 4/4………
Bonne Chance……………………………………………………….Yough.
Sans Faute mais par MP.…..Juste une précision, si je te confie les coordonné de Notre Ami c pas dans le but ou l obligation de débarqué chez Lui, pas du tt, mais comme j'ai vu que tu est a la recherche d'un Hébergement, j'ai pensé que c le meilleur Moyen de séjourner a la palmeraie de Beni Izgen ( via notre ami ou autre), car crois moi c un mode de logement très naturel et surtout très authentique.
Je te déconseille de rouler de Nuit, car ici la conduite Nocturne est très dangereuse, et je répète que juste un simple Véhicule spacieux fera ton affaire (ex: Hyundai Trajet, Peugeot 806, ….), et ta pas besoin du tt d une 4/4………
Bonne Chance……………………………………………………….Yough.
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Location de voiture en Algérie, c'est cher (environ150€/j+ km pour un 4x4) plus la caution a verser en especes alors qu'un taxi vous prendra 120€ pour aller a Gardaia et qu'un bus coute 20€ par personne. Le taxi en ville Alger ou Gardaia, coute 1 a 3 euro selon la course
Salut,
vOICI Qqs Coordonnées d'Agence de Location de Voiture a Alger (parmi des Centaines d Agences) :
Agence Olympique Auto. Hussein Dey. 021771981.
Agence CALTAM. 021541313. / 021447717. Fax/ 021543882.
Agence DJAFRI-CAR. 021728497/68. Fax/ 021742234.
Agence RAPID CAR. Aéroport: 021509512.
Agence RAPIDE LOCATION. 021506112.
Agence Prestige Car. 021282033.
Juste Pour Information: Les Buses D Alger Vers Ghardaïa , le billet coûte 850 Dinars. Gare Routière des Voyageurs. Alger (Caroubier). Tel: 021497151. / 54
Et pour le Prix des Places en Voiture (Taxi Privé) ; d Alger vers Ghardaïa c 1000 Dinars (1200 Dinars si il te prends de ton Hôtel, et il te dépose a Destination).
Si tu Insiste sur une 4/4, dans ce cas c plus pratique de louer ce Model de Voiture sur Place a Ghardaïa.
Bonne Journée………………………………Yough
vOICI Qqs Coordonnées d'Agence de Location de Voiture a Alger (parmi des Centaines d Agences) :
Agence Olympique Auto. Hussein Dey. 021771981.
Agence CALTAM. 021541313. / 021447717. Fax/ 021543882.
Agence DJAFRI-CAR. 021728497/68. Fax/ 021742234.
Agence RAPID CAR. Aéroport: 021509512.
Agence RAPIDE LOCATION. 021506112.
Agence Prestige Car. 021282033.
Juste Pour Information: Les Buses D Alger Vers Ghardaïa , le billet coûte 850 Dinars. Gare Routière des Voyageurs. Alger (Caroubier). Tel: 021497151. / 54
Et pour le Prix des Places en Voiture (Taxi Privé) ; d Alger vers Ghardaïa c 1000 Dinars (1200 Dinars si il te prends de ton Hôtel, et il te dépose a Destination).
Si tu Insiste sur une 4/4, dans ce cas c plus pratique de louer ce Model de Voiture sur Place a Ghardaïa.
Bonne Journée………………………………Yough
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
ok, merci 1000 fois, c est vraiment sympa, je suis sur place et vais essayer d appeler une des agences, nous verrons sur place pour le logement.
on va peut etre essayé d aller jusque el oued, mais ce n est pas sur, car certaine personne nous ont dit que la route gardhaia el oued, n etait pas forcément des plus sures.
on se renseignera sur place.
encore merci pour tout.
francois.
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Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





