Bon voyage à ceux qui partent bientot, bonne préparation aux autres .
Parcours Alger-Timimoun-Alger en dix jours début mai
by Qqchlimit
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Bonjour
Nous sommes 5 et l'itinéraire que nous avons prévu de faire en 10 j début mai (bateau déjà reservé entre Allicante et Alger aller/retour) est le suivant : Alger-Djelfa-Laghouat-Ghardaïa-El Golea-Timimoun-Taghit-Bechar-Oran-Alger.
Nous avons nos propres véhicules.
Merci de me donner des info sur : la possibilité de faire ce parcour en autonome en conduisant seul nos véhicules (sans guide et sans agence) la fréquence des pompes essences (y a-t-il des zones désertées qui nécessite une autonomie importante) des bons plans en hébergement sur ce trajet tout autres conseils que vous avez envie de me donner pour ce tour du grand erg occidental
Bon voyage à ceux qui partent bientot, bonne préparation aux autres .
Bon voyage à ceux qui partent bientot, bonne préparation aux autres .
Bonjour,
Déjà en faisant la demande de visa, il a fallu donner une prise en charge d'une agence ou d'un hôtel ou une invitation privée... Selon, à l'arrivée au port, on vouos demandera votre destination et si jamais, tu répondras que tu vas à Timimoun par la route, je crains fort (surtout au port d' Oran) qu'ils vont vous exiger un guide... Dans ce cas, il faut absolument trouver une solution en disant que vous voulez faire du tourisme dans l'Oranais...
Idem pour les barrages... Je te cosneille de faire une fiche/personne (photocopies) sur laquelle tu mets toutes les infos exigées : identité, profession, adresse, destination, adresses hébergements, date naissance, N° passeport, validité, N° visa + validité, etc...
Pour l'essence, il faut tout simplement faire le plein avant d'entamer de longs trajets (le plus long sans station c'est El Golea/Timimoun = 360 km) sinon paprotut il y a tjrs de l'essence ou gasoil..
Il faut aussi faire attention aux vents de sable qui peuvent occasionner des dommages au niveau du filtre à l'huile... et aussi la carosserie... En mai, cela devrait aller mais avec le changement de climat on peut avoir des surprises...
Pour les hébergements, il y a plusieurs pssoibilités, tout dépend de vos arrêts...
A ++ LILI
Déjà en faisant la demande de visa, il a fallu donner une prise en charge d'une agence ou d'un hôtel ou une invitation privée... Selon, à l'arrivée au port, on vouos demandera votre destination et si jamais, tu répondras que tu vas à Timimoun par la route, je crains fort (surtout au port d' Oran) qu'ils vont vous exiger un guide... Dans ce cas, il faut absolument trouver une solution en disant que vous voulez faire du tourisme dans l'Oranais...
Idem pour les barrages... Je te cosneille de faire une fiche/personne (photocopies) sur laquelle tu mets toutes les infos exigées : identité, profession, adresse, destination, adresses hébergements, date naissance, N° passeport, validité, N° visa + validité, etc...
Pour l'essence, il faut tout simplement faire le plein avant d'entamer de longs trajets (le plus long sans station c'est El Golea/Timimoun = 360 km) sinon paprotut il y a tjrs de l'essence ou gasoil..
Il faut aussi faire attention aux vents de sable qui peuvent occasionner des dommages au niveau du filtre à l'huile... et aussi la carosserie... En mai, cela devrait aller mais avec le changement de climat on peut avoir des surprises...
Pour les hébergements, il y a plusieurs pssoibilités, tout dépend de vos arrêts...
A ++ LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Je fais le circuit en avril dans l'autre sens, les fiches, c'est bien, et dire a chaque barrage qu'on ne va que dans la ville suivante ou que le guide nous attends ds la ville suivante
hebergement :
http://www.vitaminedz.com/ et http://www.faaj.org/faaj.html et http://www.djamila.be/Documents/algerie.htm et
http://www.algeria.strabon.org/portal/index.php
j'ai aussi trés bon souvenir de napht hotel rue du pétrole a Gardaïa
de l'auberge de jeunesse de zelfana (ville thermale)
il y a un camping a seb seb dont je n'ai pas l'adresse
a timimoun je vous conseille le camping de: http://www.agence-merdesable.com/page0.html
a beni abbes le camping de la piscine, a el Ouata l'auberge de jeunesse, a thaghit le grand hotel, a namaa, je ne connais qu'une auberge de jeunesse, a mecheria aussi, a Bouktob un hotel bas de gamme, a Saïda, un choix important et les prix aussi, a mascara l'hotel royal n'est pas cher et loyal
045 816 631
la plupart des autres sont aussi sur les sites que je vous ai donné auberge de jeunesse 2 €/nuit, campings de 4 a 10 €, hotels de 10 a 50 € (sauf Bouktob a 4 € mais justifiés, hélas). Attention, les chaleurs debutent en mai vers timimoun !
bonjour lili!!!
je suis algérien d'Alger, je suis fou passionné du désert algérien mais j'ai eu la possibilité de le faire qu'une fois et c'était Timimoune qu'on avait choisi à l'époque (je sais je suis loin du grand sud ou bien l'extreme sud), permets moi de te dire combien c'est embétant de voir que tu connais mon pays mieux que moi mais d'un autre coté je me dis que tu dois être une passionnée chevronné comme moi et donc ca me fais plaisir, j'aimerai bien savoir ce que tu as fait comme circuits et régions; ah oui si tu es intéressé, moi je décends avec des amis à compter de la mi Avril (pas encore statuer sur la date exacte) à Taghit ... on passera une semaine à dix jours alors bienvenue chez moi encore une fois lol a bientot Dada.
je suis algérien d'Alger, je suis fou passionné du désert algérien mais j'ai eu la possibilité de le faire qu'une fois et c'était Timimoune qu'on avait choisi à l'époque (je sais je suis loin du grand sud ou bien l'extreme sud), permets moi de te dire combien c'est embétant de voir que tu connais mon pays mieux que moi mais d'un autre coté je me dis que tu dois être une passionnée chevronné comme moi et donc ca me fais plaisir, j'aimerai bien savoir ce que tu as fait comme circuits et régions; ah oui si tu es intéressé, moi je décends avec des amis à compter de la mi Avril (pas encore statuer sur la date exacte) à Taghit ... on passera une semaine à dix jours alors bienvenue chez moi encore une fois lol a bientot Dada.
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Merci Lili, Dantz et Robergmbh et bonjour à Dada.
Je vais suivre vos conseils à propos des fiches personelles pour facilité les démarches lors de barrages, je prendrai aussi un jerrican d'essence pour assurer les long parcour surtout entre El Golea et Timimoun car détail qui peut être important : nos véhicules sont des motos, nous serons donc 5 motos à voyager ensembles avec chacun sa moto.
A l'arrivée à Alger est-il préférable de dire que nous allons passer qq temps dans Alger en donnant une adresse pour éviter qu'on nous oblige à prendre un guide comme Lili le suggérait ? Est-ce que si non les autorités vont nous imposer un guide qui nous accompagnera pendant notre trajet ? Et si nous partons d'Alger sans guide est-ce que à chaque barrage jusqu'à Timimoun les autorités ne vont pas rechercher à nous imposer un guide ??
Pour l'hébergement je vais faire des recherches sur internet, peut-être je vous demanderai plus tard des précisions pour des points précis.
Merci encore de vos réponses
La dernière fois que je suis passé a Alger, je me suis permis de leur dire que j'allais au sud. Ils m'ont dit "vous avez un visa pour toute l'Algérie, roulez ". C'est a Gardaïa que ca pourrait se compliquer ou a la sortie d'el golea !. Pour Gardaïa, vous pouvez dire que vous allez au camping a Metlili, c'est aprés le barrage ! et pour El Golea, passez par le centre ville, le barrage est sur la rocade mais maintenant, il est trés rare qu'on vous demande si vous avez un guide !. Effectivement, entre El golea et Timimoun, il n'y a aucune station service, juste un café
Et après le cetnre ville d'El Golea, où voudrais-tu aller ? N'oublies pas qu'il y a DEUX barrages (au nord = militaire/gendarmerie + au sud = police nationale --> ce ne sont pas des tendres... ils sont capables de vous faire arrêter sur place, de téléphoner au Commissaire en centre ville et de vous faire poiroter de très longs moments !!) ! Même si on passe par le centre ville, on ne peut que passer par le barrage du sud !
J'ai connu de tout aux barrages d'El Golea (pas moi mais les touristes/visiteurs qui y passent - tout récemment puisque j'y réside régulièrement).
Attention au port d'Oran ou d'Alger, jamais dire qu'on va en voiture dans le sud ! Là aussi, ils sont capables de vous imposer un guide !!!
Il s'agit de conseils qui peuvent servir...
J'ai connu de tout aux barrages d'El Golea (pas moi mais les touristes/visiteurs qui y passent - tout récemment puisque j'y réside régulièrement).
Attention au port d'Oran ou d'Alger, jamais dire qu'on va en voiture dans le sud ! Là aussi, ils sont capables de vous imposer un guide !!!
Il s'agit de conseils qui peuvent servir...
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Merci de vos réponses.
Donc en arrivant on dira qu'on reste autour d'Alger plutot que de dire qu'on va dans le sud.
A El Golea on risque donc d'avoir des problèmes avec les barrages et surtout celui du sud. N'y a-t-il aucun moyen d'éviter ça, aucun moyen de le contourner ?
Le fait d'être 5 motos ne pose-t-il pas de problèmes ? Je pense qu'il ne doit pas y avoir beaucoup de groupes de ce genre est-ce que ça va compliquer les choses ou au contraire détendre l'atmosphère ?
Personnellement, je n'ai pas d'avis tranché; je pense que cela ne va pas être simple. Dans votre parcours il est un autre barrage "chiant" entre Timimoun et Taghit. Si j'ai un conseil à donner, ou si je devais organiser un tel circuit en motos, j'essaierai de prendre contact avec un club de motards et de les associer à cette aventure....
Je n'ai pas de coordonnées, mais ça existe.
Ne vous découragez pas, c'est une belle aventure!!
salut a tous,
Je pars avec une copine a El Golea par route ce 30 Avril, j'ai entendu dire que l'hotel El boustene a été rennové, est ce vrais? si ce n'es pas le cas y'a t il d'autres hotels a El Golea? ensuite je compte continuer toute seule vers Timimoun, j'ai mme réservée a l'hotel Gourara! ils disent que c'est magnifique, je me demandais si le début du mois de Mai serais trop chaud pour visiter le desert, en fait je suis d'Alger, s'il me reste un peu plus de temps, je rentrerais par Taghit, fort possible que je prenne l'avion au retour.
@ + et merci pour vos réponses, me reste qu'une semaine pour démarrer 😉
Je pars avec une copine a El Golea par route ce 30 Avril, j'ai entendu dire que l'hotel El boustene a été rennové, est ce vrais? si ce n'es pas le cas y'a t il d'autres hotels a El Golea? ensuite je compte continuer toute seule vers Timimoun, j'ai mme réservée a l'hotel Gourara! ils disent que c'est magnifique, je me demandais si le début du mois de Mai serais trop chaud pour visiter le desert, en fait je suis d'Alger, s'il me reste un peu plus de temps, je rentrerais par Taghit, fort possible que je prenne l'avion au retour.
@ + et merci pour vos réponses, me reste qu'une semaine pour démarrer 😉
Le plus Beau des Voyages est leur retour sur terre.
Bonjour
Résidant à El Golea (mais en ce moment en France pour qques temps) je peux te confirmer qu'une partie de l'hôtel El Bousten a été rénovée... Je ne sais pas dans quel état se trouve le jardin qui était dans un état lamentable avant !
Il y a de petits hôtels simples, tout dépend de ce que tu cherches !
Ces temps ci il a fait très froid pour la saison mais cela peut d'un coup changer et en mai il peut faire très chaud ! Il a beaucoup plu cet hiver donc le Sahara est plutôt verdi....
Bon séjour !
LILI
Résidant à El Golea (mais en ce moment en France pour qques temps) je peux te confirmer qu'une partie de l'hôtel El Bousten a été rénovée... Je ne sais pas dans quel état se trouve le jardin qui était dans un état lamentable avant !
Il y a de petits hôtels simples, tout dépend de ce que tu cherches !
Ces temps ci il a fait très froid pour la saison mais cela peut d'un coup changer et en mai il peut faire très chaud ! Il a beaucoup plu cet hiver donc le Sahara est plutôt verdi....
Bon séjour !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Merci pour votre réponse,
pourriez vous me nomer les autres hotels a El Golea? je n'arrive pas e les trouver par internet,
Merci encore !
pourriez vous me nomer les autres hotels a El Golea? je n'arrive pas e les trouver par internet,
Merci encore !
Le plus Beau des Voyages est leur retour sur terre.
il devrait faire chaud durant le mois de mai mais sait-on jamais avec le changement de climat;
j'ai entendu parler de l'hotel "vieux ksar"à El-Goléa;j'attend qu'un ami me communique son numéro de telephone pour vous le transmettre
au retour, possibilité de prendre le vol béchar-alger(a distance taghit-béchar est de 80km)
possibilités que l'on se rencontre à Taghit;je dois y passer une nuit en début mai
bon voyage
Je viens de faire ce circuit avec 8 adultes et 4 enfants en voiture de tourisme (mais dans l'autre sens). J'avais choisi l'autre sens pour faire ce parcours en autonome, mais je pense que c'est possible dans les deux senspas de problème d'approvisionnement en carburant diesel et essence avec plomb(peu de stations avec sans plomb)hebergement Gardaïa, on a patiné puis atterri a l'hotel Rym mais la ville thermale de zelfana a 70 km est trés bien equipée en hotelsa Timimoun, je vous conseille fortement la forteresse d'aït mezline(voir site: les amis de timimoun) 12E la nuit tel:00 213 790 851 726 (abderahamane) et 00 213 790 722 732 (daniel) mail:daniel.emery2@yahoo.fr a beni abbés, vous avez le camping de la piscine 00 213 774 71 89 54(4€ piscine comprise)et le grand hotel (15€)
A Taghit, nous avons été au grand hotel mais il y a un nouvel hotel, une auberge de jeune et des chambres dans le ksar (voir merwane taghiti qui est bon guide local et proprio d' un vieux logement dans le ksar, tel 00 213 699 729 457, mail: marwano2008@yahoo.fr )
prenez des fiches de rensignements toutes pretes pour les controles et sachez qu'en principe un guide est obligatoire, je dis aux controles(quand on me le demande) que mon guide m'attends a la ville suivante !
Ps: j'ai plein d'autres renseignements et des variantes ayant fait 2 fois ce circuit cette année
mon mail: marciacjv@free.fr
Je suis contente pour toutes ces réponses et infos utiles!!! je ne sais plus d'ou commencer 😮
En fait, a El Golea j'ai des amis qui m'invitent mais je ne veux pas les déranger, j'attends quand mme le contact de l'hotel d'el ksar Touati ! j'a réservé a l'hôtel Gourara de timimoun (j'espère que leur piscine est .... une piscine!)
Donc 1ere semaine de Mai a El Golea par ce que je compte visiter Zelfana effectivement ! la 2 eme semaine a Timimoun (j'ai fort besoin de repos), comme je n'ai que 15 jours de congé, je passerais de taghit et bechar juste pour rentrer...
Robert, je garderais tout ces contacts.. je m'inquiètais justement car a timimoun je ne connais personne!! tu me sauve!
Bien a vous!
En fait, a El Golea j'ai des amis qui m'invitent mais je ne veux pas les déranger, j'attends quand mme le contact de l'hotel d'el ksar Touati ! j'a réservé a l'hôtel Gourara de timimoun (j'espère que leur piscine est .... une piscine!)
Donc 1ere semaine de Mai a El Golea par ce que je compte visiter Zelfana effectivement ! la 2 eme semaine a Timimoun (j'ai fort besoin de repos), comme je n'ai que 15 jours de congé, je passerais de taghit et bechar juste pour rentrer...
Robert, je garderais tout ces contacts.. je m'inquiètais justement car a timimoun je ne connais personne!! tu me sauve!
Bien a vous!
Le plus Beau des Voyages est leur retour sur terre.
A votre disposition
Sachez que je n'ai jamais vu d'eau dans les piscines des hotels du desert algerien!
sauf a beni abbes grace a une source !
marciacjv@free.fr
slt sabledor....
Beau été le choix que tu as pris de partir au sud plus presisement a timimoune..j'ai hate aussi de decouvrir ce magnifique coin du grand sahara algerien, car je compte aussi me glisser a timimoune fin avril..comme c'est the 1st one j'aimerai autant vous accompagner sauf votre respect demoiselles..!un amalgame de distraction convivialité qui fera de cela un sejour distinct pleins de bon souvenirs par la suite😉.
toubib..Alger boha.bil@hotmail.com
sincers salutations
Bonjour!
j'ai lu ce post avec beaucoup d'intérêt car j'ai le même projet dans ce sens ou dans l'autre (à voir) pour trois semaines en avril, en faisant peut être même une extenssion du parcours vers in salah.
A l'heure qu'il est je pense que les 5 motards ont rejoints leur patrie...
est ce qu'il serait possible d'avoir des infos sur la facilité a trouver de l'essence ss plomb, la difficulté des barrages que vous avez rencontrés et le probleme du guide potentiel...? et tout autre renseignement m'intéresse...
J'ajoute que mon projet se corse car nous sommes seuls en moto mon passager et moi.
Cordialement
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Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!





