Circuit depuis Fez en février en transport en commun
by Jardinoise
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, nous partons à 3 pour 15 jours en février . Arrivée à Fez. Voici mon programme prévisionnel. Qu'en pensez vous ? J'ai envie de voir de la belle nature et d'être tranquille. De pas me stresser avec trop de visites. Je cherche des hébergements accessibles à pied depuis l'arrêt du bus et des excursions faciles d'accès. On veut se promener, parler avec les marocains et manger.... Merci de votre aide.
Fez visite du15 au 18
AZROU rando forêt de cèdres 18, on dort sur place.... Je sais pas où
Merzouga ou ailleurs 19 20 21 pour couper en deux le long trajet bus et rando désert.
Tinghir 22 23 visite palmeraie et Dades etc.
Marrakech 24 25 26
Retour à Fez 27
Farniente 28 fevrier
Shopping Fez 1 er mars
Avion retour 2 mars.
Voilà ce qui est prévu mais je peux raccourcir, rallonger, supprimer. Et je sais pas où dormir. Toute aide me serait précieuse, surtout sur les moyens de transport.
Djemila.
Ps: je veux pas louer de voiture mais suis ok pour des excursions avec guides.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
les moyens de transports :
les trains : entre Fes et Marrakech. oncf www.oncf.ma/.../BilletsNormaux.aspx
au train (très long, il passe par Casablanca), je préfère prendre le bus de la CTM : il a deux itinéraires, selon les horaires, je prend celui qui ne passe pas par Casa : long aussi mais le paysage est bien plus sympa.
les bus : deux grandes compagnies CTM et Supratours(oncf), et beaucoup de "petites compagnies" que l'on prend souvent lorsqu'on fait des sauts de puce dans les vallées.
les "grands taxis" qui prennent 6 passagers, partent lorsqu'ils sont pleins. la flotte neuve est confortable. l'ancienne beaucoup moins. mais pour des petits trajets ... on achète souvent 3 ou 4 places pour deux pour avoir lus de confort. On les prend en gare routière.
les "petits taxis" dans les villes. on les hèle dans la rue.
les hébergements
a coté des gares routières, pas toujours simple. Mais un jet de petit taxi (rarement plus d'un euros) vous y mènera. selon votre budget hôtels, auberges, vous aurez le choix.
je vous conseille d'acheter un guide papier. (moi mes adresses je les trouve en général sur le routard)
à part le nuit d'arrivée, ne réservez pas. un coup de télé"phone la veille pour le lendemain suffit
mes adresses chacunsonmaroc.blog4ever.com/.../mes-hotels-au-...
à Fes je vais dans une auberge de jeunesse Azrou : je suis allée dans l’hôtel de l’école hôtelière Rissani je n'ai plus la mémoire de l’hôtel Merzouga : vous n'aurez que l'embarras du choix pour dormir une nuit en bivouac. ne réservez pas. Tinherir : auberge chez Assia Boulmane du Dades : dans les gorges, auberge des peupliers Marrakech : je vous conseille de choisir un hôtel en médina, de préférence central, tout ou presque se visite à pied.
votre projet est relax, c'est bien. En ne réservant pas vos hébergement, vous garderez la liberté d'ajuster ici ou là.
achetez une carte du Maroc pour affiner votre trajet (Michelin 742)
les guides sont nécessaires : à Azrou (voiture avec chauffeur) pour vous promener dans la forêt, la région sans voiture, c'est difficile pour passer une nuit dans le désert (à voir sur place à Merzouga)
pour le reste les guides ne sont pas nécessaires.
les trains : entre Fes et Marrakech. oncf www.oncf.ma/.../BilletsNormaux.aspx
au train (très long, il passe par Casablanca), je préfère prendre le bus de la CTM : il a deux itinéraires, selon les horaires, je prend celui qui ne passe pas par Casa : long aussi mais le paysage est bien plus sympa.
les bus : deux grandes compagnies CTM et Supratours(oncf), et beaucoup de "petites compagnies" que l'on prend souvent lorsqu'on fait des sauts de puce dans les vallées.
les "grands taxis" qui prennent 6 passagers, partent lorsqu'ils sont pleins. la flotte neuve est confortable. l'ancienne beaucoup moins. mais pour des petits trajets ... on achète souvent 3 ou 4 places pour deux pour avoir lus de confort. On les prend en gare routière.
les "petits taxis" dans les villes. on les hèle dans la rue.
les hébergements
a coté des gares routières, pas toujours simple. Mais un jet de petit taxi (rarement plus d'un euros) vous y mènera. selon votre budget hôtels, auberges, vous aurez le choix.
je vous conseille d'acheter un guide papier. (moi mes adresses je les trouve en général sur le routard)
à part le nuit d'arrivée, ne réservez pas. un coup de télé"phone la veille pour le lendemain suffit
mes adresses chacunsonmaroc.blog4ever.com/.../mes-hotels-au-...
à Fes je vais dans une auberge de jeunesse Azrou : je suis allée dans l’hôtel de l’école hôtelière Rissani je n'ai plus la mémoire de l’hôtel Merzouga : vous n'aurez que l'embarras du choix pour dormir une nuit en bivouac. ne réservez pas. Tinherir : auberge chez Assia Boulmane du Dades : dans les gorges, auberge des peupliers Marrakech : je vous conseille de choisir un hôtel en médina, de préférence central, tout ou presque se visite à pied.
votre projet est relax, c'est bien. En ne réservant pas vos hébergement, vous garderez la liberté d'ajuster ici ou là.
achetez une carte du Maroc pour affiner votre trajet (Michelin 742)
les guides sont nécessaires : à Azrou (voiture avec chauffeur) pour vous promener dans la forêt, la région sans voiture, c'est difficile pour passer une nuit dans le désert (à voir sur place à Merzouga)
pour le reste les guides ne sont pas nécessaires.
tu veux etre rilax, tranquille sans stress en faisant fès > merzouga ?!
suis sceptique sur ton trajet sauf à aimer manger des kms non stop !
quant aux transport ne te fies pas aux durées, elles sont aléatoires,
tu verras certes bcp de choses, mais tellement trop vite , moi je dis "bien dommage"
😐
une carte va être en effet nécessaire.
trouver un arrêt sympa entre Azrou et Merzouga ...quelque part dans les gorges du Ziz ?
je m'étais une année arrêtée à Arrachidia mais c'était pas très fun (bien que très clean, un petit hôtel à100 dh avec douche et toilettes perso en face de la gare routière).
Bonjour Cambrousse, désolée pour le retard, pas reçu les notifications. Merci, un grand merci pour cette réponse détaillée. Je note tout. Comme vous j'aime prendre le bus. Alors le retour de Marrakech à Fez se fera en évitant Casa. Par bus et par la jolie route. Le lien pour les hébergements au Maroc me semble intéressant. Je vais sûrement l'utiliser sur place. J'ai réservé en auberge de jeunesse à Fez. J'ai une grande ado avec moi et elle aura l'occasion de rencontrer des gens de son âge. Pour la carte, je ne sais pas. Si c'est trop compliqué je peux zapper une étape, . Mais j'ai deux incontournables, l'arrivée à Fez et départ de même et la visite de Marrakech. Entre les deux, tout est modifiable.
Si vous avez des suggestions pour rendre le'voyage moins speed, comme je suis preneuse.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
Bonjour et merci Midounette. Si tu penses que c'est trop, as tu en tête un itinéraire moins exigeant ? Rien n'est arrêté.. Je peux éviter Merzouga si c'est trop mais comment aller de Fez à Marrakech et retour pour que ce soit sympa quand même. On pourrait rester plus longtemps à Fez et visiter en étoile la région. Prendre le bus pour Marrakech et faire de même la bas, mais par ou passer ? Je pensais que la région de Tinghir serait bien en hiver. On peut ne pas faire le désert. Ce sera pour une autre fois. Tu dis que c'est dommage. y a t'il des lieux qui te semblent incontournables en tenant compte de la période de voyage et du temps et devrais-je rester plus longtemps dans certains ? Je ne connais pas ces régions du Maroc. J'avais fais la côte à vélo donc en autonomie, je me posais pas ces questions. Mais effectivement les transports vont manger beaucoup de temps, même si j'aime voir les paysages défiler en bus, je n'ai pas envie de passer mon temps dans les gares routières. Merci de tes suggestions.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
je regarde de nouveau ton trajet. effectivement Fes Merzouga mérite une ou deux haltes intermédiaires, mais tu le prévois je pense.
d'abord Azrou puis ? es tu regardé ?
mais sinon ... why not, parfois une journée de bus, c'est un choix.
pour les longs trajets, j'essaie toujours, en réservant le plus tôt possible (des que j'arrive dans la localité de départ), de réserver les places 1,2,3, ou 4, les meilleures pour le paysage et prendre des photos. j'ai déjà du en parler, de ça.... les bus font des arrêts "techniques", et j'ai toujours avec moi de l'eau et de quoi grignoter : petits gâteaux et fruits; pour les longs trajets, je privilégie les "grandes compagnies", la petite différence de prix le vaut en regard du confort. j'ai souvenir d'un retour le long de la vallée du Draa avec une compagnie locale : éreintant avec des arrêts incessants au gré d'untel ou untel des passagers. Folklo mais crevant. mais pour les sauts de puce, aucun souci. n'importe quelle compagnie.
je redis ce que j'ai écrit déjà : ne réserve rien à part tes"incontournables" : tu peux tout gérer d'un jour sur l'autre. Ainsi tu te feras un voyage au plus près de vos envies et coups de cœur.
mais sinon ... why not, parfois une journée de bus, c'est un choix.
pour les longs trajets, j'essaie toujours, en réservant le plus tôt possible (des que j'arrive dans la localité de départ), de réserver les places 1,2,3, ou 4, les meilleures pour le paysage et prendre des photos. j'ai déjà du en parler, de ça.... les bus font des arrêts "techniques", et j'ai toujours avec moi de l'eau et de quoi grignoter : petits gâteaux et fruits; pour les longs trajets, je privilégie les "grandes compagnies", la petite différence de prix le vaut en regard du confort. j'ai souvenir d'un retour le long de la vallée du Draa avec une compagnie locale : éreintant avec des arrêts incessants au gré d'untel ou untel des passagers. Folklo mais crevant. mais pour les sauts de puce, aucun souci. n'importe quelle compagnie.
je redis ce que j'ai écrit déjà : ne réserve rien à part tes"incontournables" : tu peux tout gérer d'un jour sur l'autre. Ainsi tu te feras un voyage au plus près de vos envies et coups de cœur.
Merci, je pense voyager avec la compagnie narionale, j'ai rencontré un des chauffeurs de cette compagnie il y a 2 semaines à Montpellier et il m'a confirmé ce que tu dis, les grosses compagnies sont fiables sur les longs trajets. Autrement est ce que j'ai intérêt a faire Fez tinghir d'un coup en réservant les places dès mon arrivée à Fez et visiter Azrou sur une journée aller retour depuis Fez ou en itinérance. Dois je zapper une étape pour moins courir comme le suggère Midounette.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
on peut aller à Azrou sur une journée depuis Fes, je l'ai fait deux fois sans soucis. (mais pour un premeir voyage, tu peux zapper, et ganger un jour sur fes ou Marrakech, ou dans la vallée du dades).
fes-Tinherir : non ...
6h30 - 23 h : là c'est trop long, et ils te font passer par Marrakech, c'est sot. ou alors tu inverses le tour ...
fes-Marrakech sejour Marrakech fes-Tinherir
sinon ton premier trajet tient la route
c'est vraiment très personnel, la manière de voyager !
fes-Tinherir : non ...
6h30 - 23 h : là c'est trop long, et ils te font passer par Marrakech, c'est sot. ou alors tu inverses le tour ...
fes-Marrakech sejour Marrakech fes-Tinherir
sinon ton premier trajet tient la route
c'est vraiment très personnel, la manière de voyager !
on peut aller à Azrou sur une journée depuis Fes, je l'ai fait deux fois sans soucis. (mais pour un premeir voyage, tu peux zapper, et ganger un jour sur fes ou Marrakech, ou dans la vallée du dades).
fes-Tinherir : non ...
6h30 - 23 h : là c'est trop long, et ils te font passer par Marrakech, c'est sot. ou alors tu inverses le tour ...
fes-Marrakech sejour Marrakech fes-Tinherir
sinon ton premier trajet tient la route
c'est vraiment très personnel, la manière de voyager !
L'idée d'aller à marrakech d'abord nous fait passer d'une ville à l'autre. Je préfère alterner avec de la cambrousse...ha ha. . Je vais reprendre mon idée de départ, t'as raison elle était pas si mal. Sur place, Je peux zapper azrou et ifrane si je vois qu'on fatigue. Mais quelle ville étape avant Tineghir ? Midelt ? Errachidia ? Ailleurs... Je pense aller directement à Tineghir depuis Errachidia si on s'arrête à Azrou. Pas de Merzouga. Profiter des ballades autour dd Tineghir puis monter sur Marrakech. Là on verra si on rentre en train via casa ou bus via Beni mellal. Merci encore pour la réponse. Ps: visite de ton site très sympa, chouettes photos. J'ai pris des notes. Pas encore regardé les vidéos.
fes-Tinherir : non ...
6h30 - 23 h : là c'est trop long, et ils te font passer par Marrakech, c'est sot. ou alors tu inverses le tour ...
fes-Marrakech sejour Marrakech fes-Tinherir
sinon ton premier trajet tient la route
c'est vraiment très personnel, la manière de voyager !
L'idée d'aller à marrakech d'abord nous fait passer d'une ville à l'autre. Je préfère alterner avec de la cambrousse...ha ha. . Je vais reprendre mon idée de départ, t'as raison elle était pas si mal. Sur place, Je peux zapper azrou et ifrane si je vois qu'on fatigue. Mais quelle ville étape avant Tineghir ? Midelt ? Errachidia ? Ailleurs... Je pense aller directement à Tineghir depuis Errachidia si on s'arrête à Azrou. Pas de Merzouga. Profiter des ballades autour dd Tineghir puis monter sur Marrakech. Là on verra si on rentre en train via casa ou bus via Beni mellal. Merci encore pour la réponse. Ps: visite de ton site très sympa, chouettes photos. J'ai pris des notes. Pas encore regardé les vidéos.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
tu peux vraiment zapper Azrou et Ifrane. Ifrane c'est un village très VIP qui ressemble à la Suisse ....
Azrou est plus sympa et ses forêts méritent des balades, mais quand on a un temps restreint, ça peut s'éviter.
Arrachidia : j'y suis juste passée, j'y ai passé une nuit et comme je ne cherchais pas à explorer le coin je ne suis pas compétente pour dire si il y a des endroits sympa ou pas. j'ai dormi juste en face de la gare routière et hop le lendemain, dans mon bus. (je rentrais de Figuig par Bouarfa)
peut-être voir Middelt, qui fait moins nœud de routes ... je ferais ça. mais je ne connais pas.
oui il faut prendre son temps dans la vallée du Dades. belle palmeraie à Tinhérir. et les gorges du Todra.
ton idée de départ est bien, et ton timing cool.
Arrachidia : j'y suis juste passée, j'y ai passé une nuit et comme je ne cherchais pas à explorer le coin je ne suis pas compétente pour dire si il y a des endroits sympa ou pas. j'ai dormi juste en face de la gare routière et hop le lendemain, dans mon bus. (je rentrais de Figuig par Bouarfa)
peut-être voir Middelt, qui fait moins nœud de routes ... je ferais ça. mais je ne connais pas.
oui il faut prendre son temps dans la vallée du Dades. belle palmeraie à Tinhérir. et les gorges du Todra.
ton idée de départ est bien, et ton timing cool.
Les grands esprits se rencontrent. Comme on est 3 je pensais prendre un taxi collectif et payer 2 places par personnes. Ca permet d'être à l'aise et de s'arrêter au besoin. Je crois que de Fes à Errachidia ca fait genre 80 dhiram par personne x 2. Pas excessif et le paysage vaut le coup il paraît. Qu'en penses tu ? Surtout qu'après recherche les ctm font la route de nuit.
Je vais voir si on peut dormir à Er rich par ce que je quitte Fes le dimanche matin et j'ai peut être une chance de voir le souk si j'arrive pas trop tard, surtout si on ce prends un taxi collectif à nous trois.
Du coup je peux aller de Er rich à Tinghir en passant par Imouguer. La route est belle, il paraît. Espérons qu'elle sera praticable en février.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
Plutôt que de m'arrêter à Errachidia, ville sans charme, j'irais jusqu'à Goulmima. A Goulmima, le ksar est magnifique. Ça vaut vraiment la visite. Il est encore habité. L'auberge où on passait la nuit nous avait trouvé un jeune pour nous guider dans le ksar et on en garde de bons souvenirs. La palmeraie aussi est agréable et superbement entretenue.
Bonjour Vero, merci de l'info. Poir l'instant j'explore le net. J'ai envisagé Er ricn pour dormir et visiter le souk du dimanche et le lendemain rejoindre Tinghir par Imouguer. Je vais voir si c'est faisable en février. Il me semble que Fes Goulmima c'est un peut long. L'objectif étant de couper la route en 2 étapes. Je vais voir et retiens ta proposition au cas où. Merci
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
Je lis aussi que vous avez prévu 3 jours à Merzouga. C'est beaucoup. Quand vous aurez passer une nuit en bivouac, vous allez tourner en rond. Le charme de Merzouga, c'est le désert, pas le village. Et une nuit dans le désert c'est suffisant. A mon avis...Surtout que sur cette route qui descend vers Marrakech, les étapes et les sites à voir sont tellement nombreux.
Bonne idee le taxi.. Je ne connais pas le tarif mais pourquoi pas. Oui. 🙂
Je lis aussi que vous avez prévu 3 jours à Merzouga. C'est beaucoup. Quand vous aurez passer une nuit en bivouac, vous allez tourner en rond. Le charme de Merzouga, c'est le désert, pas le village. Et une nuit dans le désert c'est suffisant. A mon avis...Surtout que sur cette route qui descend vers Marrakech, les étapes et les sites à voir sont tellement nombreux.
Entièrement d'accord. Merzouga, 3 jours c'est trop.
Entièrement d'accord. Merzouga, 3 jours c'est trop.
Je pense zapper Merzouga. Er rich comme étape depuis Fes. De Er rich aller à Tinghir par Imouguer. Apres Tinghir on ira à Marrakech.
Après lecture sur le forum cett étape à Merzouga n'est pas nécessaire. On connait tous le désert, moi en Égypte et ceux qui m'accompagnent l'on vu en Tunisie ou Algérie. Je vérifie juste que la route de Er rich à Tinghir par Imouguer sera ok en février.
Un bâton a toujours deux bouts
Bonjour,
Certaines notion du voyage au Maroc semblent vous échapper.
Tout d'abord retenez que les transports publics , train, bus , taxi, coutent env 30 à 35 dh la place par tranche de 100 km soit 130 à 140 dh pour Fes Er Rachidia. Et il y a trés peu de taxis prets à faire cette course sans participation au retour..
Rich Tinghir c'est une expédition difficile a realiser dans la journée, que ce soit par Imilchil ou Amellago.
Loger à Rich n'est pas evident à moins de supporter le glauque.
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Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!






